Tony Blair

[Wales-Bales]

They’re all the same.

Btw I thought you told us not to trust msm?

It was originally reported in the Telegraph, and they aren't Tony Blair's biggest fans. Naturally the BBC failed to mention it at all.

[Dr Lecter]

It was originally reported in the Telegraph, and they aren't Tony Blair's biggest fans. Naturally the BBC failed to mention it at all.

So am I supposed to trust msm or not?

[Wales-Bales]

So am I supposed to trust msm or not?

Depends. The Torygraph hated Blair, so it is probably a believable story. The BBC also failed to mention it, which gives the story further credibility. I'd rate it 99% chance of being true, based on the fact that Blair is a globalist, the BBC are globalists, and the Torygraph are anti-globalist.

[Mrs Steve R]

Depends. The Torygraph hated Blair, so it is probably a believable story. The BBC also failed to mention it, which gives the story further credibility. I'd rate it 99% chance of being true, based on the fact that Blair is a globalist, the BBC are globalists, and the Torygraph are anti-globalist.

For dialectics to work you need opposing views.

[Wales-Bales]

For dialectics to work you need opposing views.

Have the Beeb mentioned the Uranium One scandal that is lighting up Capital Hill? I expect they have, considering they had no qualms about doing over the top wall-to-wall coverage of the fake Trump pissing dossier

[Mrs Steve R]

Have the Beeb mentioned the Uranium One scandal that is lighting up Capital Hill? I expect they have, considering they had no qualms about doing over the top wall-to-wall coverage of the fake Trump pissing dossier

I'm not sure what you're getting at?

[the other bob wilson]

Depends. The Torygraph hated Blair, so it is probably a believable story. The BBC also failed to mention it, which gives the story further credibility. I'd rate it 99% chance of being true, based on the fact that Blair is a globalist, the BBC are globalists, and the Torygraph are anti-globalist.

[Eric Cartman]

I am definitely objective and unbiased when I talk about people I hate.

[Wales-Bales]

A quick flick through the Telegraph articles about the 'Remaniac-in-chief' will show they are not his biggest fan.

[Eric Cartman]

A quick flick through the Telegraph articles about the 'Remaniac-in-chief' will show they are not his biggest fan.

and that would make you more likely to believe a negative story they write about him? Why?

[Wales-Bales]

and that would make you more likely to believe a negative story they write about him? Why?

He's trying to screw up Brexit isn't he? So I presume a pro-Brexit newspaper would like to discredit him.

[the other bob wilson]

A quick flick through the Telegraph articles about the 'Remaniac-in-chief' will show they are not his biggest fan.

I'm far from Blair's biggest fan either (he's the classic case of me needing to believe my first impressions of someone, because I didn't like him when he was being talked of as a bright young thing in the Labour party in the eighties, then I got taken in by all the New Labour bollox in 97, but, like you, I only voted Labour once in a General Election under his leadership), but I'd like to think I would need more than the fact the Telegraph doesn't like him before I became convinced that something they alleged about him was true.

Presumably you don't regard, say, the Telegraph and the Mail as mainstream media these days, because there are times when you give them a great deal of credence. On the other hand, you struggle to believe anything the MSM may say about Trump - there doesn't seem to be any nuances or shades of grey in your world.

[Wales-Bales]

I'm far from Blair's biggest fan either (he's the classic case of me needing to believe my first impressions of someone, because I didn't like him when he was being talked of as a bright young thing in the Labour party in the eighties, then I got taken in by all the New Labour bollox in 97, but, like you, I only voted Labour once in a General Election under his leadership), but I'd like to think I would need more than the fact the Telegraph doesn't like him before I became convinced that something they alleged about him was true.

Presumably you don't regard, say, the Telegraph and the Mail as mainstream media these days, because there are times when you give them a great deal of credence. On the other hand, you struggle to believe anything the MSM may say about Trump - there doesn't seem to be any nuances or shades of grey in your world.

I know what you mean and it is a bit of a juggling act, but it all boils down to who benefits from any piece of information. There are often some side-effects over and above whatever happens to be the truth of the matter, and in this particular case it would be the question of Blair's integrity, as he attempts to influence the Brexit outcome.

Regarding Trump, I've known from the beginning that the Russian collusion story was a hoax, and they just wanted him out of office. They've tried really hard with coordinated attacks from the Democrats, the press, celebrities, ex-presidents, even some republicans, but the failure to remove Trump from the White House may have some undesirable consequences for those involved in this matter.