This is the end for the EU Remainers

[severncity]

I'm very sure Hilary does have some relevance.

The point here is that you injected a fantasy hypothesis to bring her in to a thread in which she has little relevance - i.e. that presidential candidate Clinton is somehow 'going to going to come back and start a war'
I took that as an ironic joke, and responded similarly.
That seemed to enrage severncity and now you appear to defending your hypothesis.

Whatever... really.

I've no idea who you really are or under what username you formerly posted. It appears, though, that you like to clog up meaningful debate with your usually meaningless posts.

Do you really believe that Hillary, who was responsible for wars in Libya, Syria and Ukraine, and who is the totem of the "progressive" left, wields no power or influence? It is evident that she does. The Trump administration has been hijacked by the banksters and neocons. America (and Europe) is divided in ways unknown in my lifetime - "right" against "left", black against white, old against young, rich against poor, the "educated" against the "workers."

The war has been raging since the Brexit vote. The war for more than peoples' hearts and minds - the war for people's souls. The "progressives" have doubled down - they control the mainstream media and are moulding the cognitive dissonance-inducing narrative: white people are bad (unless they are gay, feminist or TG), non-white people are good - even if they despise gays and feminists.

There will be a one-world government, with no borders. The rich will live in enclaves while the rest of us grind along in various degrees of relative poverty. The question that remains is who will control the world? Will it be the white people or the Chinese? Eveething else is merely detail.

Try looking at the bigger picture.

[Mrs Steve R]

I've no idea who you really are or under what username you formerly posted. It appears, though, that you like to clog up meaningful debate with your usually meaningless posts.

Do you really believe that Hillary, who was responsible for wars in Libya, Syria and Ukraine, and who is the totem of the "progressive" left, wields no power or influence? It is evident that she does. The Trump administration has been hijacked by the banksters and neocons. America (and Europe) is divided in ways unknown in my lifetime - "right" against "left", black against white, old against young, rich against poor, the "educated" against the "workers."

The war has been raging since the Brexit vote. The war for more than peoples' hearts and minds - the war for people's souls. The "progressives" have doubled down - they control the mainstream media and are moulding the cognitive dissonance-inducing narrative: white people are bad (unless they are gay, feminist or TG), non-white people are good - even if they despise gays and feminists.

There will be a one-world government, with no borders. The rich will live in enclaves while the rest of us grind along in various degrees of relative poverty. The question that remains is who will control the world? Will it be the white people or the Chinese? Eveething else is merely detail.

Try looking at the bigger picture.

That is pretty accurate (sadly).

[Eric Cartman]

I've no idea who you really are or under what username you formerly posted. It appears, though, that you like to clog up meaningful debate with your usually meaningless posts.

Do you really believe that Hillary, who was responsible for wars in Libya, Syria and Ukraine, and who is the totem of the "progressive" left, wields no power or influence? It is evident that she does. The Trump administration has been hijacked by the banksters and neocons. America (and Europe) is divided in ways unknown in my lifetime - "right" against "left", black against white, old against young, rich against poor, the "educated" against the "workers."

The war has been raging since the Brexit vote. The war for more than peoples' hearts and minds - the war for people's souls. The "progressives" have doubled down - they control the mainstream media and are moulding the cognitive dissonance-inducing narrative: white people are bad (unless they are gay, feminist or TG), non-white people are good - even if they despise gays and feminists.

There will be a one-world government, with no borders. The rich will live in enclaves while the rest of us grind along in various degrees of relative poverty. The question that remains is who will control the world? Will it be the white people or the Chinese? Eveething else is merely detail.

Try looking at the bigger picture.

Are you talking about our mainstream media?

[severncity]

Are you talking about our mainstream media?

Yes I am. The BBC, Guardian, Channel 4, NYT, Washington Post, CNN, NBC. If you can't perceive it then you are may be a slave to the "progressive" agenda.

With every day that passes I am more certain that it is China behind the "progressive" movement. It bears a great deal of similarity to the Cultural Revolution. Who stands to gain from the civil war unfolding in the West? China, for one.

I remember when "the Weakest Link" began, with its strong female host berating and humiliating her guests, I suspected that we were entering a new paradigm. People were willing to be publically flagellated in order to gain their 30 seconds of fame. We've seen many professions and roles dissected and undermined in TV and film drama since then - teachers, nurses, doctors, soldiers, parents, grandparents.

The white, British general public has little faith in anything any more. Politics, government, journalism, sport, education, medicine, business, retail, hospitality - each has been shown to be corruptible and shallow. The only growth shown in what people will put their faith in is Celebrity - TOWIE, X Factor, Cowell and Beckham are revered. Not only have we been dumbed down intellectually, we have been dumbed down emotionally and spiritually. Yet on forums such as this we still have sceptics refusing to believe that any of this is happening. I wouldn't include you in that group Eric.

[Eric Cartman]

Yes I am. The BBC, Guardian, Channel 4, NYT, Washington Post, CNN, NBC. If you can't perceive it then you are may be a slave to the "progressive" agenda.

With every day that passes I am more certain that it is China behind the "progressive" movement. It bears a great deal of similarity to the Cultural Revolution. Who stands to gain from the civil war unfolding in the West? China, for one.

I remember when "the Weakest Link" began, with its strong female host berating and humiliating her guests, I suspected that we were entering a new paradigm. People were willing to be publically flagellated in order to gain their 30 seconds of fame. We've seen many professions and roles dissected and undermined in TV and film drama since then - teachers, nurses, doctors, soldiers, parents, grandparents.

The white, British general public has little faith in anything any more. Politics, government, journalism, sport, education, medicine, business, retail, hospitality - each has been shown to be corruptible and shallow. The only growth shown in what people will put their faith in is Celebrity - TOWIE, X Factor, Cowell and Beckham are revered. Not only have we been dumbed down intellectually, we have been dumbed down emotionally and spiritually. Yet on forums such as this we still have sceptics refusing to believe that any of this is happening. I wouldn't include you in that group Eric.

Re: Anne Robinson, some men like a bit of humiliation and always have.

I agree with most of that but I don't see how that relates to the initial point that I bolded about the media. I can only say it as I see it and I can't say I have ever felt persecuted by the media as a white male. I don't feel self-conscious or judged when I walk down the street.

I was on holiday with friends recently and got more and more irate at them wasting the holiday sitting around on their phones following their same mundane daily routine.

[Mrs Steve R]

Yes I am. The BBC, Guardian, Channel 4, NYT, Washington Post, CNN, NBC. If you can't perceive it then you are may be a slave to the "progressive" agenda.

With every day that passes I am more certain that it is China behind the "progressive" movement. It bears a great deal of similarity to the Cultural Revolution. Who stands to gain from the civil war unfolding in the West? China, for one.

I remember when "the Weakest Link" began, with its strong female host berating and humiliating her guests, I suspected that we were entering a new paradigm. People were willing to be publically flagellated in order to gain their 30 seconds of fame. We've seen many professions and roles dissected and undermined in TV and film drama since then - teachers, nurses, doctors, soldiers, parents, grandparents.

The white, British general public has little faith in anything any more. Politics, government, journalism, sport, education, medicine, business, retail, hospitality - each has been shown to be corruptible and shallow. The only growth shown in what people will put their faith in is Celebrity - TOWIE, X Factor, Cowell and Beckham are revered. Not only have we been dumbed down intellectually, we have been dumbed down emotionally and spiritually. Yet on forums such as this we still have sceptics refusing to believe that any of this is happening. I wouldn't include you in that group Eric.

Spot on, that's how you demoralize and destabilize a nation crisis next..

Re: Anne Robinson, some men like a bit of humiliation and always have.


I agree with most of that but I don't see how that relates to the initial point that I bolded about the media. I can only say it as I see it and I can't say I have ever felt persecuted by the media as a white male. I don't feel self-conscious or judged when I walk down the street.


I was on holiday with friends recently and got more and more irate at them wasting the holiday sitting around on their phones following their same mundane daily routine.

I know someone who does that, it really boils my piss.