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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Again, socialists are the ones performing in what I consider a worrying way which could have real outcomes. Therefore they're the ones I'm talking about.
    The fact that the others are also a bunch of self seeking twats and liars isn't what we're talking about, and it doesn't cancel out what labour does wrong. It's irrelevant to my opinion that labour are anti Semitic , so why would I consider it ?

    Like many many people you're caught up in the left/right paradigm and you've believed that everyone must be one or the other. If the other bunch of venal twats does something which I consider worth challenging , I'll do so and often have in the past ,but I'm really not in the business of defending any of them. Believe me, they like each other a lot more than they like you or me and all sides of the fake political division are just saying what they think people want to hear if that will provide them with money and power.

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    Heisenberg
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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Again, socialists are the ones performing in what I consider a worrying way which could have real outcomes. Therefore they're the ones I'm talking about.
    The fact that the others are also a bunch of self seeking twats and liars isn't what we're talking about, and it doesn't cancel out what labour does wrong. It's irrelevant to my opinion that labour are anti Semitic , so why would I consider it ?

    Like many many people you're caught up in the left/right paradigm and you've believed that everyone must be one or the other. If the other bunch of venal twats does something which I consider worth challenging , I'll do so and often have in the past ,but I'm really not in the business of defending any of them. Believe me, they like each other a lot more than they like you or me and all sides of the fake political division are just saying what they think people want to hear if that will provide them with money and power.
    You keep repeating the same thing, which we've covered already. Yes, we know you hate socialism and believe that Labour are anti-semitic, will bring another holocaust and remove human rights and civil liberties - which is all complete speculation until it happens(?)

    My point is that you're so blinded by that hatred that you're conveniently ignoring the actual, proven dismantling of human rights & civil liberties and the increase in hate crimes against minorities (including the Jewish community that you've put at the top of your list of 'races' that you're worried about being harmed) that have been going on under consecutive Conservative governments.

    The most glaring flaw in your continued rage against socialism was when you said that "everything remotely related to socialism is evil and will only lead to death" (I can't remember the exact quote, but that was the message you conveyed). I asked if you thought the NHS was evil and you suddenly disappeared from the discussion.

    We've been going around in circles for a while now and I can't point out the flaws in your logic and clearer than I already have, so I'll leave the debate there.

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    You keep repeating the same thing, which we've covered already. Yes, we know you hate socialism and believe that Labour are anti-semitic, will bring another holocaust and remove human rights and civil liberties - which is all complete speculation until it happens(?)

    My point is that you're so blinded by that hatred that you're conveniently ignoring the actual, proven dismantling of human rights & civil liberties and the increase in hate crimes against minorities (including the Jewish community that you've put at the top of your list of 'races' that you're worried about being harmed) that have been going on under consecutive Conservative governments.

    The most glaring flaw in your continued rage against socialism was when you said that "everything remotely related to socialism is evil and will only lead to death" (I can't remember the exact quote, but that was the message you conveyed). I asked if you thought the NHS was evil and you suddenly disappeared from the discussion.

    We've been going around in circles for a while now and I can't point out the flaws in your logic and clearer than I already have, so I'll leave the debate there.
    I don't know why people bother engaging with him

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