Arm our officers

[blue matt]

Your argument doesn't stand up Matt. The officers you know are the cream of the cream and specially trained, you're arguing about arming EVERY police officer, that is a massive difference. Can you see that?

I am sure you know that these Officers were just your " Lowly paid civil servant meathead bobby's with superiority-complex who chose a career in policing in order to assert their authority over others " ( as CC likes to call them ) before they were trained in AR ( and then trusted to guard Ted Heath and Camilla & Charles, while Charles was in her home )

I fully understand that training them all to carry arms would take time, but lets start, lets get more trained, the armed officers will be wearing body cams, so they will know they are being filmed and will not have free reign to " pop a cap "

I am sure 1/2 on here think our police are a bunch of idiots and cannot be trusted, they are the front line in our protection against these nutters ( be it religious or not ) lets give them a little help to do the job they do, tonight a police officer will not be returning home, that officer was NOT armed, he was faced with a guy wielding TWO knifes and trying to stab him, as we know, he did and the Officer died would that officer being armed have saved his life, we can only guess it would have

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I fully understand that training them all to carry arms would take time, but lets start, lets get more trained, the armed officers will be wearing body cams, so they will know they are being filmed and will not have free reign to " pop a cap "

Out of interest, if every police officer carried a gun, do you think that would make criminals more or less likely to carry them too? If you think it's more likely, how do you suppose that improves public safety?

[headlight]

Originally Posted by blue matt
"I fully understand that training them all to carry arms would take time, but lets start, lets get more trained, the armed officers will be wearing body cams, so they will know they are being filmed and will not have free reign to " pop a cap ""

What you mean like American law enforcement officers who have been regularly filmed shooting people even they though know they are being filmed ?
Doesn"t seem to have stopped them now does it ?

[blue matt]

Originally Posted by blue matt
"I fully understand that training them all to carry arms would take time, but lets start, lets get more trained, the armed officers will be wearing body cams, so they will know they are being filmed and will not have free reign to " pop a cap ""

What you mean like American law enforcement officers who have been regularly filmed shooting people even they though know they are being filmed ?
Doesn"t seem to have stopped them now does it ?

so we are bringing the US into the argument, i guess it was expected

[Charlie]

so we are bringing the US into the argument, i guess it was expected

The US will always be in the argument when it comes to arming the police as the rise of social media and camera phones have shown that a large number of US officers overstep the mark when using their weapons.

[blue matt]

The US will always be in the argument when it comes to arming the police as the rise of social media and camera phones have shown that a large number of US officers overstep the mark when using their weapons.

of course, but maybe, just maybe, our police officers wouldnt ? ? ? ?

[Rhiw-Blue]

of course, but maybe, just maybe, our police officers wouldnt ? ? ? ?

It must be a wonderful way to view life.

Bliss in fact

[Charlie]

of course, but maybe, just maybe, our police officers wouldnt ? ? ? ?

Certainly not to the same extent, but I'd really prefer not to be in the position to find out. Its a chance that doesn't need to be taken.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

of course, but maybe, just maybe, our police officers wouldnt ? ? ? ?

Almost impossibly naive of you. For a guy who has a buddy for every occasion I'd have thought you'd be a bit more worldly.

[blue matt]

Out of interest, if every police officer carried a gun, do you think that would make criminals more or less likely to carry them too? If you think it's more likely, how do you suppose that improves public safety?

I couldnt answer that, as I am not a criminal

though having worked the doors in cardiff a little many years ago, i know ( at that time ) it was easy enough to get a gun, so i guess if a criminal really wanted a gun, they would be able to get one

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I couldnt answer that, as I am not a criminal

though having worked the doors in cardiff a little many years ago, i know ( at that time ) it was easy enough to get a gun, so i guess if a criminal really wanted a gun, they would be able to get one

That doesn't answer my question at all. Getting a gun wasn't my question, you admit that getting one is easy. My question is would criminals etc be more likely to carry them if they knew the police would be.

My feeling is that they would be more likely to carry guns. The possibility of being shot is not so much of a deterrent, more of a problem that needs to be overcome. More guns = less safety. America is proof of that.