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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
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    Ukip vote predominantly went to the Tories.
    Labour gained more than the Tories from everyone else
    Return of two party politics, cost her the majority.

    Cameron /Osborne would have sailed In ,least we forget they were the triple lock and no tax rises authors.

    Bet the insiders who wanted and planned Camerons demise and forced his hand on the Brexit referendum are weeping now.

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Return of two party politics, cost her the majority.

    Cameron /Osborne would have sailed In ,least we forget they were the triple lock and no tax rises authors.

    Bet the insiders who wanted and planned Camerons demise and forced his hand on the Brexit referendum are weeping now.
    Did she even want to win an overwhelming majority? You could argue the current situation suits May and her City of London backers much better. Lot's of talk now about including all parties, softer Brexit, etc. Even talk about staying in the EU!

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Did she even want to win an overwhelming majority? You could argue the current situation suits May and her City of London backers much better. Lot's of talk now about including all parties, softer Brexit, etc. Even talk about staying in the EU!
    Like we are ever going to fully leave anyway.

    (How often do you check your emails btw?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Like we are ever going to fully leave anyway.

    (How often do you check your emails btw?)
    Yes, we discussed this likely event a few months ago. Funny how things turn out innit

    Theresa May is the key, and the reason why the other Tory Party leadership contenders fell over themselves to ensure that she became the new PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes, we discussed this likely event a few months ago. Funny how things turn out innit

    Theresa May is the key, and the reason why the other Tory Party leadership contenders fell over themselves to ensure that she became the new PM.
    so to get this right, she ran a shit campaign and risked losing her party the election and has lost her credibility just to satisfy the pro EU bankers, You're an odd fellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    so to get this right, she ran a shit campaign and risked losing her party the election and has lost her credibility just to satisfy the pro EU bankers, You're an odd fellow
    It's a play. Think back to her strange performance during the referendum, the odd leadership contest, the narrow team she utilised during the GE to micro manage the outcome, etc. Brexit means Brexit!

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's a play. Think back to her strange performance during the referendum, the odd leadership contest, the narrow team she utilised during the GE to micro manage the outcome, etc. Brexit means Brexit!
    so your saying she is clever enough to manipulate the system and the public to such a degree that she can emerge with no overall majority but cling on to power, really i mean really

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's a play. Think back to her strange performance during the referendum, the odd leadership contest, the narrow team she utilised during the GE to micro manage the outcome, etc. Brexit means Brexit!
    The leadership contest was a procession, so presumably Boris and Gove are also in cahoots with the pro EU bankers and did their bidding by dropping out.

    But hang on, Boris and Goves campaign was the decisive one for getting Leave to win. Didn't the City think of stepping in at that point, just a few months earlier?

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes, we discussed this likely event a few months ago. Funny how things turn out innit

    Theresa May is the key, and the reason why the other Tory Party leadership contenders fell over themselves to ensure that she became the new PM.
    Welcome to the Hotel California.. You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave!

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    so to get this right, she ran a shit campaign and risked losing her party the election and has lost her credibility just to satisfy the pro EU bankers, You're an odd fellow
    They don't want to leave, they just want us to think they want to.

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Welcome to the Hotel California.. You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave!


    They don't want to leave, they just want us to think they want to.
    who are they

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    who are they
    Our infested government, they just take orders from the EUSSR HQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    How sickening to watch this shit unfold

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Did she even want to win an overwhelming majority? You could argue the current situation suits May and her City of London backers much better. Lot's of talk now about including all parties, softer Brexit, etc. Even talk about staying in the EU!
    So why didn't she stick with the dozen-ish majority she already had, if she didn't want a huge one?

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    So why didn't she stick with the dozen-ish majority she already had, if she didn't want a huge one?
    his posts are getting more abstract by the day

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    So why didn't she stick with the dozen-ish majority she already had, if she didn't want a huge one?
    Act 1, Scene 2 ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40268504

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    thats not answering his question though is it

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    thats not answering his question though is it
    Glueys problem is that he sees an outcome and works backwards, then concludes that whatever happened was always part of the plan.

    One day he'll realise that even the big cheeses are making it up as they go along

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Glueys problem is that he sees an outcome and works backwards, then concludes that whatever happened was always part of the plan.

    One day he'll realise that even the big cheeses are making it up as they go along
    The Hegelian Dialectic.

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Glueys problem is that he sees an outcome and works backwards, then concludes that whatever happened was always part of the plan.

    One day he'll realise that even the big cheeses are making it up as they go along
    Funnily enough, I've just been reading about Captain Hindsight .

    Surely the Fabian Society are involved somewhere?

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    Re: Voters certainly did not reject a hard Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    thats not answering his question though is it
    The situation is very fluid and I can only comment on what has already happened, but it seems like there is some sort of pivot underway.



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