Off Topic, Geetars

[Tuerto]

I read this Morning that the Iconic Green Telecaster of Francis Rossi has sold for £19,000.00, he bought it second hand for £75.00, obviously there are more famous vintage Geetars, Clapton's Black Strat being one of many, but If I had dough!!! then it's this green Telecaster I'd want to own.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...tion-119k.html

I've always wondered how people distinguish between a brilliant guitar player and an average one, or one that's not very good. I hear people say that certain players are brilliant etc, but to me they all sound fantastic unless it's glaringly obvious that they're shit.

I reckon that i can spot a decent footballer because i've played and been coached, i sort of understand the game, is that the same with music, how can other people hear something that i can't? or maybe i can!

[Veg1960]

I've always wondered how people distinguish between a brilliant guitar player and an average one, or one that's not very good. I hear people say that certain players are brilliant etc, but to me they all sound fantastic unless it's glaringly obvious that they're shit.

I reckon that i can spot a decent footballer because i've played and been coached, i sort of understand the game, is that the same with music, how can other people hear something that i can't? or maybe i can!

I think you may be right. I've played guitar for many, many years and although I'm bang average I reckon I can tell a good player when I hear one.

That green Tele is lush!

[Tuerto]

I think you may be right. I've played guitar for many, many years and although I'm bang average I reckon I can tell a good player when I hear one.

That green Tele is lush!

That's what i mean, your ear is more educated than mine when it comes to music, you can probably spot certain intricacies that i can't. If i hear a song and i like it, then i like it! I have no idea how gifted the musicians are.

[Wales-Bales]

That's what i mean, your ear is more educated than mine when it comes to music, you can probably spot certain intricacies that i can't. If i hear a song and i like it, then i like it! I have no idea how gifted the musicians are.

There are two aspects to consider, either playing for the song, or overplaying to make yourself the centre of attention (and a bit of a tw@t). I prefer the less is more approach, and here is a good example. Ronnie Wood on guitar, and Ronnie Lane on bass were at the top of their game.

[Tuerto]

There are two aspects to consider, either playing for the song, or overplaying to make yourself the centre of attention (and a bit of a tw@t). I prefer the less is more approach, and here is a good example. Ronnie Wood on guitar, and Ronnie Lane on bass were at the top of their game.

Thanks for that. I still don't understand how people can tell the difference between really good and average. I can understand someone who has been trained in music spotting the differences but not the average punter. Maybe i'm trying to be to logical and if it sounds good then it's good?

[Wales-Bales]

Thanks for that. I still don't understand how people can tell the difference between really good and average. I can understand someone who has been trained in music spotting the differences but not the average punter. Maybe i'm trying to be to logical and if it sounds good then it's good?

You don't have to be technically brilliant to be a good guitar player. I think if the guitar player stands out too much, then he's probably trying too hard. The same is true of football, a team player will always be valuable to the team.

[Heathblue]

You don't have to be technically brilliant to be a good guitar player. I think if the guitar player stands out, then he's probably trying too hard. The same is true of football, a team player will always be valuable to the team.

The edge, it's all delay, repeats, harmonics etc. they say when trashing him, but he does better than anybody else doing this stuff and that's what makes him stand out, there are millions of EVH out there.

[City123]

There are two aspects to consider, either playing for the song, or overplaying to make yourself the centre of attention (and a bit of a tw@t). I prefer the less is more approach, and here is a good example. Ronnie Wood on guitar, and Ronnie Lane on bass were at the top of their game.

A lot of it does come down to personal preference mind. What you may consider "overplaying" is just what some songs need, the best guitarists find a balance between the two.

Matt Bellamy from Muse is a good example of this, he knows when to "show off" to a certain extent but also when to hold back

[Wales-Bales]

A lot of it does come down to personal preference mind. What you may consider "overplaying" is just what some songs need, the best guitarists find a balance between the two.

Matt Bellamy from Muse is a good example of this, he knows when to "show off" to a certain extent but also when to hold back

The biggest revolt against overplaying was punk rock, and it was based on the playing of a handful of early 70's guitarists. I don't mind a bit of fancy playing, and I like John Frusciante who can rip with the best of them, but he also knows when to play for the song. It takes a lot of restraint to do that.

[City123]

The biggest revolt against overplaying was punk rock, and it was based on the playing of a handful of early 70's guitarists. I don't mind a bit of fancy playing, and I like John Frusciante who can rip with the best of them, but he also knows when to play for the song. It takes a lot of restraint to do that.

That's what I mean, the best guitarists recognise when to go for it and when to hold back

[Baloo]

There are two aspects to consider, either playing for the song, or overplaying to make yourself the centre of attention (and a bit of a tw@t). I prefer the less is more approach, and here is a good example. Ronnie Wood on guitar, and Ronnie Lane on bass were at the top of their game.

Paul Kossoff