Looking at Burnley shef United and Luton did we actually do quite well in the Premier under warnock

[NYCBlue]

Do you use that arguement for every football game played under every manager ?

Because unless you do then even man City etc have seasons when they win ....or lose something by a referee mistake or a decision made by the manager

You can't have the penny and the bun

We didn't lose because of a decision by a referee. We got relegated because the manager was completely out of his depth. And he didn't lose 1 or 2 games he lost 24.

[the other bob wilson]

We didn't lose because of a decision by a referee. We got relegated because the manager was completely out of his depth. And he didn't lose 1 or 2 games he lost 24.

I feel that after we deservedly won at Brighton, most people supporting other clubs would have backed us to stay up. However, Warnock has admitted himself he got his selection and tactics wrong in the very winnable match at doomed Fulham with those who believe such things alleging his substitutions were more down to who a player’s agent was.

Trying to be even handed about this, I would argue that Warnock’s “plucky little Cardiff” line was partly responsible for a disastrous first three months of the season (admittedly we did have several very testing fixtures during this time). Then we had a spell of about five months where we won enough matches to almost claw back the gap with Brighton and you can’t just say that Warnock played no part in that improvement, but we then got that Fulham game all wrong and we lost what was a winnable home game against a Palace team with nothing to play for and so all of that good work was undone.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think there are plenty of other managers who have been more out of their depth than warnock in the top flight

[J R Hartley]

I think there are plenty of other managers who have been more out of their depth than warnock in the top flight

Has he ever kept a side in the top flight, let alone established them in the division?

Hes a second division manager. Always has been.

[Father Dougal]

I feel that after we deservedly won at Brighton, most people supporting other clubs would have backed us to stay up. However, Warnock has admitted himself he got his selection and tactics wrong in the very winnable match at doomed Fulham with those who believe such things alleging his substitutions were more down to who a player’s agent was.

Trying to be even handed about this, I would argue that Warnock’s “plucky little Cardiff” line was partly responsible for a disastrous first three months of the season (admittedly we did have several very testing fixtures during this time). Then we had a spell of about five months where we won enough matches to almost claw back the gap with Brighton and you can’t just say that Warnock played no part in that improvement, but we then got that Fulham game all wrong and we lost what was a winnable home game against a Palace team with nothing to play for and so all of that good work was undone.

I think that's why it's remembered the way it is.

We didn't even have any heartbreak. Not like we had tight or exciting games v fulham or Palace. Had they been nail biting games with late goals etc it may have been seen as heartbreak or disappointment. Instead it wasn't. Just non events of games where it felt we were done and didn't turn up. Strange.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I think that's why it's remembered the way it is.

We didn't even have any heartbreak. Not like we had tight or exciting games v fulham or Palace. Had they been nail biting games with late goals etc it may have been seen as heartbreak or disappointment. Instead it wasn't. Just non events of games where it felt we were done and didn't turn up. Strange.

Yes.

Some believe we were 1 win away from staying up that season, in the same way they believe only a Reading points deduction saved us last season. Both have a ring of truth from the end of season table but, in reality, neither panned out like that.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I feel that after we deservedly won at Brighton, most people supporting other clubs would have backed us to stay up. However, Warnock has admitted himself he got his selection and tactics wrong in the very winnable match at doomed Fulham with those who believe such things alleging his substitutions were more down to who a player’s agent was.

Trying to be even handed about this, I would argue that Warnock’s “plucky little Cardiff” line was partly responsible for a disastrous first three months of the season (admittedly we did have several very testing fixtures during this time). Then we had a spell of about five months where we won enough matches to almost claw back the gap with Brighton and you can’t just say that Warnock played no part in that improvement, but we then got that Fulham game all wrong and we lost what was a winnable home game against a Palace team with nothing to play for and so all of that good work was undone.

He lost his top signing and felt some guilt no doubt, that flight ended our season in two ways we lost the 2nd best french goal scoring striker (for the first half of that season) and it affected Warnock and derailed our season.

If he had taken a regular flight and missed a few hours of training we would have stayed up and done miles better than Luton.