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    Re: Council results

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post

    It says, 'about a quarter of people of working-age - around 10 million people - don't currently have jobs,' then later on, 'officially, about 1.3 million people in the UK were unemployed.'

    Effectively then, there's really approaching 8 times more working-age people who are unemployed than what the official figures - which is defined and manipulated by government setting a very narrow criteria - would have us believe.
    No - that isn’t ‘effectively’ what it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    No - that isn’t ‘effectively’ what it says.
    I asked google, what is the definition and measurement of UK unemployment?

    Answer - Unemployed people are defined as those aged 16 or over who are without work, available to start work in the next two weeks and who have either: a) been actively seeking work in the past four weeks, or. b) are waiting to start a new job they have already obtained.

    ONS data for February 2023 - Employment in the UK: February 2023 - https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentand...k/february2023

    Says: February 2023 UK unemployment rate: 3.7%, employment rate: 75.8%.

    Or, 24.2% are not employed, but just 3.7% of those are counted as unemployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I asked google, what is the definition and measurement of UK unemployment?

    Answer - Unemployed people are defined as those aged 16 or over who are without work, available to start work in the next two weeks and who have either: a) been actively seeking work in the past four weeks, or. b) are waiting to start a new job they have already obtained.

    ONS data for February 2023 - Employment in the UK: February 2023 - https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentand...k/february2023

    Says: February 2023 UK unemployment rate: 3.7%, employment rate: 75.8%.

    Or, 24.2% are not employed, but just 3.7% of those are counted as unemployed.
    yes all those infants and pensioners should start pulling their weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    yes all those infants and pensioners should start pulling their weight
    Had you read prior messages you would know the context, working-age people is what's being discussed, those aged 16 to 65.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Had you read prior messages you would know the context, working-age people is what's being discussed, those aged 16 to 65.
    Of course, but within those you class as not-employed will be full time students and those training for work. It's not as if nearly 25% of the population sits on its arse. There will be a small percentage of people who choose not to work as a partner earns enough to keep both of them plus family.

    Interestingly, the 75.8% employment rate includes those working part time and those on zero hour contracts. It's not as if three quarters of the population are in full time, meaningful employment.

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    Re: Council results

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Had you read prior messages you would know the context, working-age people is what's being discussed, those aged 16 to 65.
    I am still 'working age' (assumes that means below the state pension age).

    I am 'early retired' (almost 9 years ago now).

    I am not seeking work, I am not medically unfit for work, and I am not unemployed.

    That is my context!

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