Our Supporters

[RonnieBird]

In my opinion the club is doing, and has done very well.

I have sometimes formed very different opinions to the manager on certain issues, but I've got the plain common sense to understand that he knows more than me on these matters, and the practical realism to know that as long as he's the one in charge and giving the orders, then it's my duty to support whatever decisions he makes.

That's how discipline and good order works to prevail in adverse circumstances.

It's one thing to make the odd comment and suggestion - it's the whole point of message boards in fact - but this constant withering fire of negativity is something else altogether.

Someone said I'm trying to censor people . Well, I'm not. Of course people must say what they want to, but I'm just appealing to them to reconsider what they say and be aware that it can reach a point where it becomes nothing but destructive.

To answer someone's question, of course I have a look at other club boards from time to time when they are about to play Cardiff. I think a lot of people do that,so I don't need to defend what I choose to read , but I'll tell you this, if I ever saw another club message board with this much desolation I'd know they'd be a pushover.

On this subject, be assured that our players and management , players and management from other clubs and the press read these kind of message boards too. The effect of this one can only be to discourage our team and motivate opponents.

In life generally you can think you're going to win or accept that you can't , and either way you'll be right. If I'm in a minority of one I'm still not going to join those who are determined to lose, and I still don't believe that the comments here are typical of our real supporters.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

In my opinion the club is doing, and has done very well.

I have sometimes formed very different opinions to the manager on certain issues, but I've got the plain common sense to understand that he knows more than me on these matters, and the practical realism to know that as long as he's the one in charge and giving the orders, then it's my duty to support whatever decisions he makes.

Neil Warnock brought on Rhys Healey vs Fulham, in a must win game and 2 games later, he was sold to MK Dons, while leaving Bobby Reid on the bench. Warnock has enough experience to be criticised and while he has done extremely well for Cardiff City in the main, there are times when I think what on Earth are you doing? It was a gamble and it did not work at all, and he should be questioned why he did it.

Can you honestly say we've bought well under Warnock? His free transfers and bargains have been sensational but the minute the chequebook comes out, they flop. We've spent over 40m in fees under him and we've got a second choice keeper and Josh Murphy out of it. I'm deliberately excluding this season's players as it is too early to judge.

Also, you are aware that these people care about the club as well? People don't whine about what he could/should have done because they're being tossers. Most of the posters on this website desperately want us to succeed.

[RonnieBird]

Neil Warnock brought on Rhys Healey vs Fulham, in a must win game and 2 games later, he was sold to MK Dons, while leaving Bobby Reid on the bench. Warnock has enough experience to be criticised and while he has done extremely well for Cardiff City in the main, there are times when I think what on Earth are you doing? It was a gamble and it did not work at all, and he should be questioned why he did it.

Can you honestly say we've bought well under Warnock? His free transfers and bargains have been sensational but the minute the chequebook comes out, they flop. We've spent over 40m in fees under him and we've got a second choice keeper and Josh Murphy out of it. I'm deliberately excluding this season's players as it is too early to judge.

Also, you are aware that these people care about the club as well? People don't whine about what he could/should have done because they're being tossers. Most of the posters on this website desperately want us to succeed.

How very very interesting that you mention bringing RH on in that game ,because that's EXACTLY what was in my mind when I wrote that ! At the time , I though " what the **** is he doing ?".

Thing is though that he made a call on the day and as we know it didn't work, but I expect he has his reasons - maybe Rhys had been on fire in training that week. Maybe Reid was off colour, or the manager was aware a long time before we were of his lack of commitment and duplicitous nature. We won't know till Reid writes his story in the papers one day, but you're quite right that it seemed a strange thing.
Yet, if it had worked and Rhys had scored a hat trick we'd all be remembering it as an act of genius by the manager.
When you're in command you have to make calls and sometimes they don't work out, but I honestly think that Sir Neil makes the right call more often than the wrong one, and more often than most managers do.

You're also quite right that some of his buys have been poor, but I can forgive him that - lot of managers have done as badly and not gotten any success at all.

I know, Sir Neil knows, and it seems that even Sam Allerdyce knows that we can't realistically compete with flash monkey football teams, and more importantly that's a trap which the majority of teams fall into but which can't get them anywhere.
What we're doing is different and might get us back into the premiership by brute force and discipline , at which point maybe we've git to think again, but in any case it's what we ARE doing now and so the best and only thing we can do is to cheer them on and be committed to that strategy.

Yeah, by all means people can mention what they think would be better now and again, but my point is that this can become very counter productive to the collective willpower of the club if it reaches a certain critical mass.

I think your posting there is about the right level in terms of constructive criticism actually , but many seem to go a whole lot further and tend to celebrate mishaps because it somehow vindicates their own previous prophesies of failure. I think the most upsetting thing I saw was the thread predicting massive 5 goal annihilations by Fulham at a point where we were clearly in trouble , then carping and apparent dissapointment when the rout was halted in that game.

We need the support of the crowd if this young team is going to match the old one then surpass them, and although it's hard, that can be done.

[the other bob wilson]

How very very interesting that you mention bringing RH on in that game ,because that's EXACTLY what was in my mind when I wrote that ! At the time , I though " what the **** is he doing ?".

Thing is though that he made a call on the day and as we know it didn't work, but I expect he has his reasons - maybe Rhys had been on fire in training that week. Maybe Reid was off colour, or the manager was aware a long time before we were of his lack of commitment and duplicitous nature. We won't know till Reid writes his story in the papers one day, but you're quite right that it seemed a strange thing.
Yet, if it had worked and Rhys had scored a hat trick we'd all be remembering it as an act of genius by the manager.
When you're in command you have to make calls and sometimes they don't work out, but I honestly think that Sir Neil makes the right call more often than the wrong one, and more often than most managers do.

You're also quite right that some of his buys have been poor, but I can forgive him that - lot of managers have done as badly and not gotten any success at all.

I know, Sir Neil knows, and it seems that even Sam Allerdyce knows that we can't realistically compete with flash monkey football teams, and more importantly that's a trap which the majority of teams fall into but which can't get them anywhere.
What we're doing is different and might get us back into the premiership by brute force and discipline , at which point maybe we've git to think again, but in any case it's what we ARE doing now and so the best and only thing we can do is to cheer them on and be committed to that strategy.

Yeah, by all means people can mention what they think would be better now and again, but my point is that this can become very counter productive to the collective willpower of the club if it reaches a certain critical mass.

I think your posting there is about the right level in terms of constructive criticism actually , but many seem to go a whole lot further and tend to celebrate mishaps because it somehow vindicates their own previous prophesies of failure. I think the most upsetting thing I saw was the thread predicting massive 5 goal annihilations by Fulham at a point where we were clearly in trouble , then carping and apparent dissapointment when the rout was halted in that game.

We need the support of the crowd if this young team is going to match the old one then surpass them, and although it's hard, that can be done.

"Young team"???????

[RonnieBird]

"Young team"???????

Yeah it's a young team mainly in the fact that it's newly formed , but some of the players are quite inexperienced and in any case I think we have different ideas of what young means. I don't see a 24 year old as someone who's yet got his full set of skills generally .

[City123]

Yeah it's a young team mainly in the fact that it's newly formed , but some of the players are quite inexperienced and in any case I think we have different ideas of what young means. I don't see a 24 year old as someone who's yet got his full set of skills generally .

The average age of our squad is 28, we only have 3 first teamers 24 or below, that is not a young team

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The average age of our squad is 28, we only have 3 first teamers 24 or below, that is not a young team

Our young player of the year is 24

[Pedro de la Rosa]

How very very interesting that you mention bringing RH on in that game ,because that's EXACTLY what was in my mind when I wrote that ! At the time , I though " what the **** is he doing ?"..

He gets (and takes) more than enough praise when it goes well, so he should take the criticism when he cocks up.

[The Lone Gunman]

I have sometimes formed very different opinions to the manager on certain issues, but I've got the plain common sense to understand that he knows more than me on these matters, and the practical realism to know that as long as he's the one in charge and giving the orders, then it's my duty to support whatever decisions he makes.

You'd have made an ideal Nazi.

Has it occurred to you that 'Sir Neil' has made countless mistakes during his career, which is the main reason he's been sacked so many times and had more clubs than Nick Faldo?

[Croesy Blue]

You'd have made an ideal Nazi.

If you think that from his football posts just wait until you see his political ones.

[splott parker]

You'd have made an ideal Nazi.

Has it occurred to you that 'Sir Neil' has made countless mistakes during his career, which is the main reason he's been sacked so many times and had more clubs than Nick Faldo?

Talking about this in work today, he definitely is a short term manager, that’s quite obvious from the number of clubs he’s had. By his standards he’ll be due a testimonial with us pretty soon. There is definitely a pattern with Warnock ( or is it Sir Neil, Warwick, Colin?), he comes in, sorts some shite out, does ok for a bit (in our case, he did extremely well, fantastic in fact), gets his feet under the table, gets involved financially (allegedly), things go sour, bit of unrest sets in & off he goes, whether sacked or of his own accord. The pattern isn’t going to change now, he’s too long in the tooth, even though we’re his kind of people (along with about 20 other club’s fans)

[Lawnmower]

Talking about this in work today, he definitely is a short term manager, that’s quite obvious from the number of clubs he’s had. By his standards he’ll be due a testimonial with us pretty soon. There is definitely a pattern with Warnock ( or is it Sir Neil, Warwick, Colin?), he comes in, sorts some shite out, does ok for a bit (in our case, he did extremely well, fantastic in fact), gets his feet under the table, gets involved financially (allegedly), things go sour, bit of unrest sets in & off he goes, whether sacked or of his own accord. The pattern isn’t going to change now, he’s too long in the tooth, even though we’re his kind of people (along with about 20 other club’s fans)

Vast majority of fans at clubs he’s managed before love him mind Steve.

Except Leeds 😂

[splott parker]

Vast majority of fans at clubs he’s managed before love him mind Steve.

Except Leeds ��

I don’t doubt that Tim but that may be because he jumps ship before the unrest really escalates. When he eventually leaves I do wonder if there’ll be any financial finger pointing, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, there’s been a few questionable player deals done in his time here. Everything may turn out to all above board but on the other hand...............

[Lawnmower]

I don’t doubt that Tim but that may be because he jumps ship before the unrest really escalates. When he eventually leaves I do wonder if there’ll be any financial finger pointing, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, there’s been a few questionable player deals done in his time here. Everything may turn out to all above board but on the other hand...............

On the first one, can’t blame him for that, most managers get sacked at some point. His average tenure is probably not much different to anyone else. He’s just been around longer. The fact he’s so popular wherever he’s been points more to me that he’s done a good job.

As for the signings who knows.
The signings of the McKay brothers is smelly to me. It’s certainly more a concern than the type of football we play.

I’m also concerned that the club will feel forced into bringing in another manager like Trollope and this time we will miss out on promotion before our parachute money runs out. Then I reckon we’ll be fighting relegation battles and back to square 1

[Tuerto]

On the first one, can’t blame him for that, most managers get sacked at some point. His average tenure is probably not much different to anyone else. He’s just been around longer. The fact he’s so popular wherever he’s been points more to me that he’s done a good job.

As for the signings who knows.
The signings of the McKay brothers is smelly to me. It’s certainly more a concern than the type of football we play.

I’m also concerned that the club will feel forced into bringing in another manager like Trollope and this time we will miss out on promotion before our parachute money runs out. Then I reckon we’ll be fighting relegation battles and back to square 1

Who is going to 'Force' the club to select a certain kind of manager? Trollope wasn't brought in, he was promoted from within, and i'd bet he was pretty cheap, just like Slade. I don't know why you refer to Trollope so often as if he's the archetypal pass the ball about 100 times kind of manager, he was a cheap option employed by the club, the fans weren't calling for him to be manager and neither were they calling for an out and out fooball guru, Trollope didn't try and implement a total footballing style while he was at the helm, far from it. I think we can blame the club for that appointment. I understand that you like Warnock and how he plays and that' fair enough, i don't and i'm looking forward to the day when we appoint someone else who isn't remotely like him as a person and a football manager, although my greatest concern is the people who are responsible for chosing our new manager, although Warnock seems to think he's allowed some input-Very strange, he's just an emplyee who's leaving at the end of the season.

[Divine Wright]

... then it's my duty to support whatever decisions he makes.

That's how discipline and good order works to prevail in adverse circumstances.

I think that’s what the SS said in Nuremburg.