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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    No other option though.It would take a law change to make that woman culpable.If you are in charge of any vehicle on the road you are responsible for the safety of any pedestrian,including cyclists.
    Is that really the law? If I launch myself head first into a bus, it's the driver's fault?

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is that really the law? If I launch myself head first into a bus, it's the driver's fault?
    The onus would be on the bus driver to prove his/her innocence.Once upon a time a driver could only be charged with "driving without due care and attention"if he/she was in an accident whilst using a mobile phone.The law has now been changed.

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    The onus would be on the bus driver to prove his/her innocence.Once upon a time a driver could only be charged with "driving without due care and attention"if he/she was in an accident whilst using a mobile phone.The law has now been changed.
    What was the purpose of Section 3 of The Road Traffic Act 1972 then? Mobile phones hadn't been invented then. In other news, everyone is innocent unless proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt in a criminal court. In a civil court, it's a balance of probabilities. But no one has to prove they're innocent.

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    What was the purpose of Section 3 of The Road Traffic Act 1972 then? Mobile phones hadn't been invented then. In other news, everyone is innocent unless proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt in a criminal court. In a civil court, it's a balance of probabilities. But no one has to prove they're innocent.
    On reflection I could have worded it better but was in a rush and didn't read the article properly.To my knowledge you cannot be prosecuted for using a mobile phone whilst crossing the road if your a pedestrian.It seems that the guy was trying to avoid her rather than trying to stop,therefore I would agree with this decision.

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    Re: The World's gone mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    On reflection I could have worded it better but was in a rush and didn't read the article properly.To my knowledge you cannot be prosecuted for using a mobile phone whilst crossing the road if your a pedestrian.It seems that the guy was trying to avoid her rather than trying to stop,therefore I would agree with this decision.
    You are right, you can't be prosecuted for using a mobile phone when crossing the road. This wasn't a prosecution though. It was a claim for damages. The court has listened to the evidence from both parties, including an independent witness - who was also cycling at the time - who describes the cyclist as riding aggressively. On a balance of probabilities, the judge has ruled that the cyclist was liable for damages. The judge has also acknowledged that the pedestrian is partly to blame. What you have here is a sensationalist headline drawing in the reader and hoping they'll become outraged by the decision.

    I would agree with you, that the Judge has probably (on balance ) made the right decision.

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