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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Indeed!
    Or it may well be that this really is all part of a plan to create such social unease and division that 'we' become easy targets for 'whatever is coming next'.

    While that still remains a possibility,it is easy to get the impression that The Don does get all knee-jerky on Twitter and goes off-piste, over and above the carefully crafted plans of Team Trump.

    Who knows, yet. 'Politics' has never been so riveting.

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Indeed!
    Or it may well be that this really is all part of a plan to create such social unease and division that 'we' become easy targets for 'whatever is coming next'.

    While that still remains a possibility,it is easy to get the impression that The Don does get all knee-jerky on Twitter and goes off-piste, over and above the carefully crafted plans of Team Trump.

    Who knows, yet. 'Politics' has never been so riveting.
    Maybe it's all part of the misdirection plan, but the fact that no one from the White House seemed to have been expecting it suggests that the plan was only known to a small number of people. Perhaps that group only consisted of Donald.

    The FBI boss has said it's not true and Trump has said he doesn't believe him. Accusing a President of tappping is huge, pretty much unpresidented. Doing it without giving any evidence is insane. If it's all part of a plan and not just an old guy tweeting while watching the news then it's pretty terrifying.

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Indeed!
    Or it may well be that this really is all part of a plan to create such social unease and division that 'we' become easy targets for 'whatever is coming next'.

    While that still remains a possibility,it is easy to get the impression that The Don does get all knee-jerky on Twitter and goes off-piste, over and above the carefully crafted plans of Team Trump.

    Who knows, yet. 'Politics' has never been so riveting.
    Bannon is the brains behind Trump.

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Bannon is the brains behind Trump.
    Indeed, he is largely what/who I mean by Team Trump.

    My own personal view is that while it seems very possible that there is a program of strategic tweets, designed to cause noise and confusion - (to whatever end .. TBC), it's also possible that The Donald is shooting a few of his own, from the hip.
    If so , who knows if Team Trump approve of these.

    This really is incredible sh1t going on- right before our eyes!

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Indeed, he is largely what/who I mean by Team Trump.

    My own personal view is that while it seems very possible that there is a program of strategic tweets, designed to cause noise and confusion - (to whatever end .. TBC), it's also possible that The Donald is shooting a few of his own, from the hip.
    If so , who knows if Team Trump approve of these.

    This really is incredible sh1t going on- right before our eyes!
    Yep, but I find it all hard to believe that Trump is the idiotic buffoon, firing off random tweets in the oval office as he watches Fox News, that some on here are making him out to be. If he is, then we really are in very deep trouble

    The way I see it there are two rival factions at play here. One is the Obama/Clinton deep state, with their stay behinds embedded in the various government departments and agencies (e.g.7th Floor), along with most of the MSM. Even Republicans such as McCain and Graham are heavily against Trump.

    Trump does have his supporters, but they are far fewer in number, and mostly to be found amonst the military and the rank and file of the security services. However Trump's major weopon is that he is sitting on a treasure trove of "secrets", and this information could bring down an estimated third of those in the corridors of power, if you believe any of the more colourful versions of coming events.

    Hence, if you follow along with this narrative, it's easy to see that many of the players involved would have a very good reason for wanting to bring down this accidental president, who is the very last person that any of them ever wanted to see sitting in the White House.

    Like you say, it is all incredible stuff to witness and very entertaining, and for sure some of us on here are going to have the greatest Western of all Super Mares!
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 06-03-17 at 20:04.

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    The tweets could be strategic. If Congress is investigating wire tapps that don't exist then they might not investigate the Russia links. Now why would Trump want that?

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The tweets could be strategic. If Congress is investigating wire tapps that don't exist then they might not investigate the Russia links. Now why would Trump want that?
    This may or may not be interesting, depending on how bad your cognitive dissonance is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

    PS he's the bloke who caused Trump to tweet like a maniac, yes it was some random fella on Fox TV who is responsible for all the drama!

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    Re: Obama wiretapped Trump during the run-up to the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    This may or may not be interesting, depending on how bad your cognitive dissonance is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

    PS he's the bloke who caused Trump to tweet like a maniac, yes it was some random fella on Fox TV who is responsible for all the drama!
    Cheers for that. Not going to look at everything he mentions as evidence that Obama tappped Trump, so I just looked at one which was this Guardian piece:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ussia-contacts


    He reads out this bit:

    "The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation."


    ...although interestingly he omits the bit in bold. The article is dated Jan 11th, so I'm wondering, given that it's been around for two months, why no one else has picked up on it being evidence of this massive crime?

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