Morrissey's New Album

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

You should have a look at Marr's discography. Johnny Marr is unstoppable as a musician and would have made it with or without Morrissey. Morrissey might still be up in his bedroom if it wasn't for Johnny Marr.

That’s why I said initially.
There’s no doubting who’s been far more successful since The Smiths broke up.
And the break up was down to Marr, no?

[NYCBlue]

That’s why I said initially.
There’s no doubting who’s been far more successful since The Smiths broke up.
And the break up was down to Marr, no?

I think it's more complicated than that. I think Morrissey and Marr were going in different directions. I'm sure Morrissey saw it coming. He started recording Viva Hate pretty much as soon as Strangeways came out.

[Baker]

That’s why I said initially.
There’s no doubting who’s been far more successful since The Smiths broke up.
And the break up was down to Marr, no?

Marr decided to stop it yeah. I think Strangeways was them finding their groove to the extent they all outlived the band. Rourke obviously had his issues whilst Joyce pretended to contribute in the background. Listen to A Rush and a Push and you could see they were starting to go in a completely new direction. They came close to reforming in roughly 2008ish when Marr and Moz met in a pub for a catch up after about 10 years. Marr was up for it but Moz never got back to him (according to Marr).

[NYCBlue]

Marr decided to stop it yeah. I think Strangeways was them finding their groove to the extent they all outlived the band. Rourke obviously had his issues whilst Joyce pretended to contribute in the background. Listen to A Rush and a Push and you could see they were starting to go in a completely new direction. They came close to reforming in roughly 2008ish when Marr and Moz met in a pub for a catch up after about 10 years. Marr was up for it but Moz never got back to him (according to Marr).

Mike Joyce had the same problem Andy Rourke did. Probably worse.

[Baker]

Mike Joyce had the same problem Andy Rourke did. Probably worse.

Good.

[NYCBlue]

Good.

If there ever was a Smiths reunion I'm pretty sure that Mike Joyce wouldn't be involved.

[NYCBlue]

Marr decided to stop it yeah. I think Strangeways was them finding their groove to the extent they all outlived the band. Rourke obviously had his issues whilst Joyce pretended to contribute in the background. Listen to A Rush and a Push and you could see they were starting to go in a completely new direction. They came close to reforming in roughly 2008ish when Marr and Moz met in a pub for a catch up after about 10 years. Marr was up for it but Moz never got back to him (according to Marr).

And I've read his book.