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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Morrissey is banned in THAT shop, now do you think you have the right to tell me to spend my money in Spillers?
    Of course not. How on earth do arrive at that conclusion?

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Of course not. How on earth do arrive at that conclusion?
    In that case I fail to see the point of your interjection, as I haven't said he can't sell whatever he wants. The point I was making is if he wants to define what freed speech is acceptable, then I can vote with my wallet not to support that business. I support freedom of speech for everybody, even if I don't agree with some of it. When you start interfering with who can say what, you are on the slippery slope to Marxism. That's why I say let the proper authority decide what is acceptable, not a shop keeper here and a coffee shop owner there. Society will soon decend into chaos if you go down that road.

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    All this fuss about a nobody who has achieved a small little cult following.

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    All this fuss about a nobody who has achieved a small little cult following.
    It's not actually about Morrissey, he is just the vehicle that is being used to stifle freedom of speech. Who will be next?

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's not actually about Morrissey, he is just the vehicle that is being used to stifle freedom of speech. Who will be next?
    But you can buy the album anywhere, even on line.
    If the album has volume sales the only loser is Spillers

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's not actually about Morrissey, he is just the vehicle that is being used to stifle freedom of speech. Who will be next?
    WTF are you on about.. Nobody's 'free speech' is being stifled here, speech is free but not without consequence, the consequences of this turdbags mutterings are that a shop doesn't want to sell his shitty record.

  7. #7

    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    WTF are you on about.. Nobody's 'free speech' is being stifled here, speech is free but not without consequence, the consequences of this turdbags mutterings are that a shop doesn't want to sell his shitty record.
    Anybody with the flimsiest knowledge of history will know how it all ends up when you start moderating free speech. May I suggest that anyone with a penchant for such a thing move to North Korea, as that would be right up their street

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Anybody with the flimsiest knowledge of history will know how it all ends up when you start moderating free speech. May I suggest that anyone with a penchant for such a thing move to North Korea, as that would be right up their street
    Trouble with your lot banging on about free speech is that it's totally disingenuous and argued for in bad faith, right wing fascists are the least tolerant people on Earth yet turn in to an avalanche of snowflakery when they feel they are not tolerated...

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...arks-in-london

    I'm guessing your up in arms that 'The Jurisprudence of Blood' by Abu Abdullah al-Muhajir isn't stocked in your local Waterstones.?

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    In that case I fail to see the point of your interjection, as I haven't said he can't sell whatever he wants. The point I was making is if he wants to define what freed speech is acceptable, then I can vote with my wallet not to support that business. I support freedom of speech for everybody, even if I don't agree with some of it. When you start interfering with who can say what, you are on the slippery slope to Marxism. That's why I say let the proper authority decide what is acceptable, not a shop keeper here and a coffee shop owner there. Society will soon decend into chaos if you go down that road.
    But the owner of Spillers makes decisions not to sell certain records every week, in fact all record shops do. Otherwise every record ever released would be on sale in Spillers. Are they curtailing Hansen's free speech by not stocking their album because they think they're shit?

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    But the owner of Spillers makes decisions not to sell certain records every week, in fact all record shops do. Otherwise every record ever released would be on sale in Spillers. Are they curtailing Hansen's free speech by not stocking their album because they think they're shit?
    If all record shop owners selected their stock according to the political leanings of the artists, that would make them propagandists.

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    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If all record shop owners selected their stock according to the political leanings of the artists, that would make them propagandists.
    Remember Skrewdriver? Their records weren't banned but nobody would stock them. I guess all of the major retailers are or were propagandists.

  12. #12

    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Remember Skrewdriver? Their records weren't banned but nobody would stock them. I guess all of the major retailers are or were propagandists.
    Free speech is the central pillar of democracy, yet people are advocating for the shutting down of opinions that they don't agree with. The same thing is happening on Facebook and Twitter, this is not an isolated incident.

  13. #13

    Re: so Spillers bans Morrissey

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Free speech is the central pillar of democracy, yet people are advocating for the shutting down of opinions that they don't agree with.
    No they're not, people are saying that a privately owned record shop can stock what it wants

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