Stay in the EU petition

[lardy]

While I appreciate what you say there is no way that anyone can say negotiated differently we would have got a better deal, or that we ever will. The EU is a protectionist bloc and would always seek to drive the hardest possible bargain. They would do everything in their power to prevent it completely if they can. The only reason they are helping now is because they know a no-deal exit will hurt them as much as us, and nation states like Germany are beginning to grasp how much it will hurt their economies.

I believe the EU don't want us to leave because if we kept a successful economy, or even improve, then it will encourage other countries to consider an opt out, ( Greece? Italy? Germany? Holland?)and that will destroy the dream, which is now admitted is a federal europe, a political end-game, which previously was never admitted. We joined a common market for our goods, and that is the way it should have stayed.

It's certainly in the EU's interests to avoid no deal. They would suffer because of it.

But to suggest a country like Germany would be hurt just as much as the UK is insane. The majority of citizens of other EU countries, with the exception of Ireland, won't notice much difference to their actual day to day lives.

[Swiss Peter]

It's certainly in the EU's interests to avoid no deal. They would suffer because of it.

But to suggest a country like Germany would be hurt just as much as the UK is insane. The majority of citizens of other EU countries, with the exception of Ireland, won't notice much difference to their actual day to day lives.

Indeed. Not sure why some can't (or won't) get their head around this. It's simple maths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46612362

[xsnaggle]

It's certainly in the EU's interests to avoid no deal. They would suffer because of it.

But to suggest a country like Germany would be hurt just as much as the UK is insane. The majority of citizens of other EU countries, with the exception of Ireland, won't notice much difference to their actual day to day lives.

I think I said the EU would be hurt as much. But Germany would be hurt. Her car industry does huge business with UK which would suffer, and the germans are closer to us than any other european nation historically despite 2 wars. The German press and politicians have siad it would hurt the German economy and whre as we would be free to set up new trade deals to fill the gap ( Whetheer we do ro not is a different question) they would still be inside the EU and see the loss of our trade as permanent.