Yeah, those two goals he scored at Wembley for us were rubbish weren't they. Ledley was the type of player that was needed to help someone like Steve McPhail play like he could do at his best for us, he was one of the reasons why Jason Koumas was the success he was in his first spell for us and it was because of players like him that we were able to have "luxury" players like Chopra, Bothroyd and McCormack in the same team at times.