Storm brewing in Washington DC

[Wales-Bales]

The man can do no wrong nqat!

Why would Trump tweet about the Awans if it was a nothingburger?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Why would Trump tweet about the Awans if it was a nothingburger?

I didn't realise his tweets were always factual. Ok you got me!

[Wales-Bales]

I didn't realise his tweets were always factual. Ok you got me!

They generally become factual at some point.

[cyril evans awaydays]

They generally become factual at some point.

Always useful to see a few examples to support that viewpoint. You can add them to the link to the CNN conspiracy article if you like.

[lardy]

They generally become factual at some point.

This could be a long list.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...justin-trudeau

[lardy]

Why would Trump tweet about the Awans if it was a nothingburger?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Why would Trump tweet about the Awans if it was a nothingburger?

Any closer to an answer?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...946_story.html

[Wales-Bales]

Any closer to an answer?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...946_story.html

Very interesting, although I did say this might happen!

[cyril evans awaydays]

Very interesting, although I did say this might happen!

You said that an 18 month investigation overseen by a Prosecutor who was part of Trump's transition team and was hand-picked for the DC office not only did not find any evidence for the crank conspiracies you have been pedaling for the past year but also took the step to publicly repudiate them. Like to see that post again!

“Particularly, the Government has found no evidence that your client illegally removed House data from the House network or from House Members’ offices, stole the House Democratic Caucus Server, stole or destroyed House information technology equipment, or improperly accessed or transferred government information, including classified or sensitive information,”

You can file this one alongside your Pizzagate, Seth Rich and other unsubstantiated tosh you bombard us with.

[Wales-Bales]

You said that an 18 month investigation overseen by a Prosecutor who was part of Trump's transition team and was hand-picked for the DC office not only did not find any evidence for the crank conspiracies you have been pedaling for the past year but also took the step to publicly repudiate them. Like to see that post again!

“Particularly, the Government has found no evidence that your client illegally removed House data from the House network or from House Members’ offices, stole the House Democratic Caucus Server, stole or destroyed House information technology equipment, or improperly accessed or transferred government information, including classified or sensitive information,”

You can file this one alongside your Pizzagate, Seth Rich and other unsubstantiated tosh you bombard us with.

If it was an open and shut case I would normally be in full agreement with you.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/03/aw...y-not-charged/

[cyril evans awaydays]

If it was an open and shut case I would normally be in full agreement with you.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/03/aw...y-not-charged/

The only questions remaining are being raised by the idiot of a "reporter" who inflated this as a scandal in the first place and is slowly watching what little credibility he ever had and those Hannity and Fox News appearance fees dribbling down the toilet. Are you so gullible you expected the Daily Caller to accept the validity of the findings of an investigation, I repeat overseen by a hand-picked Trump appointee? Don't answer that!

[Wales-Bales]

The only questions remaining are being raised by the idiot of a "reporter" who inflated this as a scandal in the first place and is slowly watching what little credibility he ever had and those Hannity and Fox News appearance fees dribbling down the toilet. Are you so gullible you expected the Daily Caller to accept the validity of the findings of an investigation, I repeat overseen by a hand-picked Trump appointee? Don't answer that!

I don't really care about the reporter, I just take note of what he reportod on, which includes documentary evidence from congessional staff members who investigated the Awan case. So, it's been swept under the carpet. Nobody is surprised given the implications. What is clear is that you are a Washington Post deciple, and in the future if I want to know your opinion on anything I will just consult with the WAPO! Incidentally their reporter wasn't even in court yesterday, and he published his account before the hearing had even ended.

[Wales-Bales]

It might come as a bit of a shock to you but the 18 month investigation was not undertaken by me or The Washington Post but by a team under the control of a Federal Prosecutor hand-picked by Trump into the role. After considering all the evidence it concluded in its own words as recorded in the Daily Caller article:

"More specifically, the Government agrees that the public allegations that your client stole U.S. House of Representatives ('House') equipment and engaged in unauthorized or illegal conduct involving House computer systems do not form the basis of any conduct relevant to the determination of the sentence in this case," the plea agreement states.

"The Government conducted a thorough investigation of those allegations, including interviewing approximately 40 witnesses; taking custody of the House Democratic Caucus server, along with other computers, hard drives, and electronic devices; examining those devices, including inspecting their physical condition and analyzing log-in and usage data; reviewing electronic communications between pertinent House employees; consulting with the House Office of General Counsel and House information technology personnel to access and/or collect evidence; and questioning your client during numerous voluntary interviews,” according to the plea agreement.

This clearly shows that the conclusions were reached after relevant consultation with congressional investigators. You might not like the conclusions but unless the Trump hand-picked Federal Prosecutor failed to ensure due process then it would appear justice has been served. Obviously you will have evidence to the contrary that is more substantive than sour grapes.

An interesting detail has emerged from the plea offer made to Imran Awan by Jessie K.Liu, United States Attorney District of Columbia, that the Washington Post completely failed to report.

"Your client further understands that this Agreement is binding only upon the Criminal and Superior Court Divisions of the United States Attomey's Office for the District of Columbia. This Agreement does not bind the Civil Division of this Office or any other United States
Attomey's Office, nor does it bind any other state, local, or federal prosecutor. It also does not bar or compromise any civil, tax, or administrative claim pending or that may be made against your client."

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Attorney General Sessions have a Federal Prosecutor working for him based in Utah, who has already empanelled a Grand Jury? I'm not saying there is any connection, but how funny would that be!

PS I think you are referring to District of Columbia state prosecutor are you not?

[cyril evans awaydays]

An interesting detail has emerged from the plea offer made to Imran Awan by Jessie K.Liu, United States Attorney District of Columbia, that the Washington Post completely failed to report.

"Your client further understands that this Agreement is binding only upon the Criminal and Superior Court Divisions of the United States Attomey's Office for the District of Columbia. This Agreement does not bind the Civil Division of this Office or any other United States
Attomey's Office, nor does it bind any other state, local, or federal prosecutor. It also does not bar or compromise any civil, tax, or administrative claim pending or that may be made against your client."

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Attorney General Sessions have a Federal Prosecutor working for him based in Utah, who has already empanelled a Grand Jury? I'm not saying there is any connection, but how funny would that be!

PS I think you are referring to District of Columbia state prosecutor are you not?

See if you can spot what this startling new bit of straw clutching has in common with completely unrelated plea bargain cases copied randomly off the internet. Could it be some kind of standard waiver???? Don't let me stop your denial though!

This agreement applies only to the criminal violations described and does not apply to any civil matter or any civil forfeiture proceeding except as specifically set forth. This agreement binds only the United States Attorney's Office of the Western District of Oklahoma and does not bind any other federal, state, or local prosecuting, administrative, or regulatory authority.

The defendant understands that this agreement is only binding on the Office of the United States Attorney for the District of New Mexico and the Office of Consumer Litigation of the United States Department of Justice. Nothing in this agreement shall bind any other federal, state or local agency.

[Wales-Bales]

See if you can spot what this startling new bit of straw clutching has in common with completely unrelated plea bargain cases copied randomly off the internet. Could it be some kind of standard waiver???? Don't let me stop your denial though!

This agreement applies only to the criminal violations described and does not apply to any civil matter or any civil forfeiture proceeding except as specifically set forth. This agreement binds only the United States Attorney's Office of the Western District of Oklahoma and does not bind any other federal, state, or local prosecuting, administrative, or regulatory authority.

The defendant understands that this agreement is only binding on the Office of the United States Attorney for the District of New Mexico and the Office of Consumer Litigation of the United States Department of Justice. Nothing in this agreement shall bind any other federal, state or local agency.

I copied it directly from the Awan plea offer, it's at the top of page 10

[cyril evans awaydays]

I copied it directly from the Awan plea offer, it's at the top of page 10

I know. I copied these from two unrelated cases in two different states and they say exactly the same thing. It's almost like they use a template or something but you carry on believing that this is specially inserted for conspiracy theory cases if you want!

[Wales-Bales]

I know. I copied these from two unrelated cases in two different states and they say exactly the same thing. It's almost like they use a template or something but you carry on believing that this is specially inserted for conspiracy theory cases if you want!

I will continue to monitor developments from a neutral vantage point, as opposed to your good self who has clearly nailed your colours to the Washington Post mast