Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Where in the post did you say guns should be banned?
Nowhere.
You had to bring Islamic immigrants.
They had no relevance to this tragedy.
Show some respect.
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Where in the post did you say guns should be banned?
Nowhere.
You had to bring Islamic immigrants.
They had no relevance to this tragedy.
Show some respect.
You've completely misunderstood his post. He was illustrating the fact that more Americans are killed by other Americans, yet the likes of Trump and the right wing in the US would have you believe that Islamic extremism is the biggest problem facing their society.
Exactly, my point was there's muslim travel ban yet still no appetite for proper gun control.
This Thread did not need any mention of Islamic immigrants or Muslims.
I think old Croesy was just trying to point out the enemy within America there. Maybe Trumpy should look at that first rather than banning muslim's
Why not? Trump has spent the last year telling Americans that Muslims (any Muslims if the logic of the travel ban is followed - not just Islamist terrorists) are the main threat, but most incidents of mass murder are carried out by white non-Muslims who exploit the easy availability of guns, and the gun culture that is endorsed and celebrated by Trump and his allies.
When another tragic and murderous event takes place that contradicts and exposes the stance of the president it is absolutely right for people to comment on the priorities of Trump and his government. That includes their resistance to gun control (or even regulation) and their false depiction of Muslims as the danger to innocent citizens.
It makes no difference to the victims what anyone on a British football messageboard say about the terrible massacre in Las Vegas. But I'm sure it is much more respectful and relevant to talk about the real issues and causes (including the failures of the American president) than avoid them and trot out some version of 'warmest condolences'! Ban guns not travel.
Amen to this.Great post.
Spot on.
Like many on here, I've been to the United States on numerous occasions, and i'm sure it's probably the same throughout the country, but my time spent in Texas was a bit surreal, it seemed as easy to buy guns as it was to buy vegetables in Walmart. In the drinking dens, quite a few were dressing the part as cowboys, Thump was funded substantially by the gun lobby during his campaign and like those before him, he'll find it very very difficult (if he has the will) to tighten laws, I don't see that any POTUS would ever get a ban through
I was thinking of that earlier Donald taking money from the NRA when he could have funded his own campaign? Why tie you're hands?
Like many on here, I've been to the United States on numerous occasions, and i'm sure it's probably the same throughout the country, but my time spent in Texas was a bit surreal, it seemed as easy to buy guns as it was to buy vegetables in Walmart. In the drinking dens, quite a few were dressing the part as cowboys, Thump was funded substantially by the gun lobby during his campaign and like those before him, he'll find it very very difficult (if he has the will) to tighten laws, I don't see that any POTUS would ever get a ban through
'James fox' totally missed the point, which was surely obvious to all and sundry.
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