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  1. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    As the owner of the thought processes behind what I wrote, I know exactly what I meant. The last time I checked, we were not in some kind of Stalinist thought-control police state, although I get the feeling that some people on here wish that we were, so that they can attribute thoughts to others and establish guilt!
    You seem to be ecstatic that a group of high powered politicians got away with committing sexual abuse, which was covered up using funds obtained from the public purse.

    Here is one where you accused me of being ecstatic that politicians got away with sexual abuse crimes. As the owner of the thought processes behind what you wrote, what exactly did you mean?

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    You seem to be ecstatic that a group of high powered politicians got away with committing sexual abuse, which was covered up using funds obtained from the public purse.

    Here is one where you accused me of being ecstatic that politicians got away with sexual abuse crimes. As the owner of the thought processes behind what you wrote, what exactly did you mean?
    Cyril, draw the curtains, and go and have a lay down. You can thank me later

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  4. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Interesting development.

    Purely by coincidence as well as the Bloomberg hack who tweeted something that was all over news outlets the Conservative Treehouse had their own take on it. In this version Peek was part of a Deep State Resistance team because he worked for General Adams, who once shared a stage with Barack Obama. They speculate that this "mole" may be the person passing intelligence to Adam Schiff that the White House has been withholding material evidence pertinent to the impeachment trial. It's not their strongest bit of work suggesting that he was spilling the beans on this I guess.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/

    For some bizarre reason the CTH failed to mention that he was part of Trump's transition team and was seen on appointment to his previous role on Iran and Iraq as a Trump loyalist and former Kushner employee who would do his bidding on Iran. But I guess you knew that from your research of source material you always do before posting this kind of false trail.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08...e-house-trump/

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Interesting development.

    Purely by coincidence as well as the Bloomberg hack who tweeted something that was all over news outlets the Conservative Treehouse had their own take on it. In this version Peek was part of a Deep State Resistance team because he worked for General Adams, who once shared a stage with Barack Obama. They speculate that this "mole" may be the person passing intelligence to Adam Schiff that the White House has been withholding material evidence pertinent to the impeachment trial. It's not their strongest bit of work suggesting that he was spilling the beans on this I guess.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/

    For some bizarre reason the CTH failed to mention that he was part of Trump's transition team and was seen on appointment to his previous role on Iran and Iraq as a Trump loyalist and former Kushner employee who would do his bidding on Iran. But I guess you knew that from your research of source material you always do before posting this kind of false trail.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08...e-house-trump/
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?

  6. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?
    On the one statement of fact you made. Who are the spies that infiltrated the Trump Election campaign team?

  7. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    On the one statement of fact you made. Who are the spies that infiltrated the Trump Election campaign team?
    They wouldn't be active if their identities were known, but Trump has been surrounded by them.

  8. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They wouldn't be active if their identities were known, but Trump has been surrounded by them.
    So not a statement of fact then. Given that you were showing off your googling skills in the Meghan Markle thread you would have thought that entering Trump election campaign spy would give you something.

    Wait...I googled it for you and there's the OIG report, the one you said for two years would spill the beans and bring down the house of cards which concluded:

    “We found no evidence that the FBI attempted to place any [confidential human sources] within the Trump campaign, or task any [confidential human sources] to report on the Trump campaign,”

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?

  9. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So not a statement of fact then. Given that you were showing off your googling skills in the Meghan Markle thread you would have thought that entering Trump election campaign spy would give you something.

    Wait...I googled it for you and there's the OIG report, the one you said for two years would spill the beans and bring down the house of cards which concluded:

    “We found no evidence that the FBI attempted to place any [confidential human sources] within the Trump campaign, or task any [confidential human sources] to report on the Trump campaign,”

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?
    I don't even know whose side this guy was on, but as usual you dive straight in completely ignoring the claims and instead try to attack the credibility of the source. No wonder you were so easily duped by the Steele Dossier & the Russian Collusion BS. Just stick to CNN mate you are a perfect match!

  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I don't even know whose side this guy was on, but as usual you dive straight in completely ignoring the claims and instead try to attack the credibility of the source. No wonder you were so easily duped by the Steele Dossier & the Russian Collusion BS. Just stick to CNN mate you are a perfect match!
    What claims you didn't post any?

  11. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    What claims you didn't post any?
    You will always be a victim of propaganda cos you are too stupid to work things out for yourself. You keep on repeating the narratives from CNN & MSNBC, etc., and then you wonder why you always get it wrong. You are a legend in your own mind cyril, but it's fun to watch!

  12. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You will always be a victim of propaganda cos you are too stupid to work things out for yourself. You keep on repeating the narratives from CNN & MSNBC, etc., and then you wonder why you always get it wrong. You are a legend in your own mind cyril, but it's fun to watch!
    What is fun to watch is the lengths you will go to show that you have the gift of foresight rather than what is a a bit more obvious, a stooge for the daily churnings of the CTH.

    In this instance we are led to believe you just happened upon a tweet from a Bloomberg journalist which basically makes a factual statement that a White House official appointed only a couple of months ago was escorted from the premises. None of your usual nudge nudge wink wink innuendo with a link to a right wing website or meme.

    Those who know you are basically a CTH postbox head over there and there it is, their latest bombshell. Funnily enough halfway down to page is a link to a Bloomberg article by, gosh almighty, the very journalist who is your twitter source.

    The CTH speculates that the guy who was the third person appointed into the NSA Russia and Eastern European role in the last several months (the last two testified in the Congressional impeachment hearings) is either a spy for Obama/Clinton or even more interestingly two members of the Trump cabinet (Pompeo and O'Brien). Keep in mind that this was the guy appointed by Trump two months ago into a role right in the middle of the Ukraine issues that led to the impeachment.

    Rather than post this speculation and play the CTH cut and paste king much better to find an anodyne source where you can claim insight if it plays out your way or have no bullshit stick in the far more likely event that it doesn't I suppose.

  13. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    What is fun to watch is the lengths you will go to show that you have the gift of foresight rather than what is a a bit more obvious, a stooge for the daily churnings of the CTH.

    In this instance we are led to believe you just happened upon a tweet from a Bloomberg journalist which basically makes a factual statement that a White House official appointed only a couple of months ago was escorted from the premises. None of your usual nudge nudge wink wink innuendo with a link to a right wing website or meme.

    Those who know you are basically a CTH postbox head over there and there it is, their latest bombshell. Funnily enough halfway down to page is a link to a Bloomberg article by, gosh almighty, the very journalist who is your twitter source.

    The CTH speculates that the guy who was the third person appointed into the NSA Russia and Eastern European role in the last several months (the last two testified in the Congressional impeachment hearings) is either a spy for Obama/Clinton or even more interestingly two members of the Trump cabinet (Pompeo and O'Brien). Keep in mind that this was the guy appointed by Trump two months ago into a role right in the middle of the Ukraine issues that led to the impeachment.

    Rather than post this speculation and play the CTH cut and paste king much better to find an anodyne source where you can claim insight if it plays out your way or have no bullshit stick in the far more likely event that it doesn't I suppose.
    A fantastic explanation of why you are absolutely clueless. Here is how it usually goes ...

    Cyril: The Steele Dossier, Trump Russia Collusion, Obstruction of Justice, and Mueller prosecuting Trump are all True.

    CTH: No they're not.

    Outcome - Cyril loses again!

    Rinse and repeat

    BTW you would be mistaken to think that there is only one source in play here, and it does explan why your outlook is so narrow.

  14. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I don't even know whose side this guy was on, but as usual you dive straight in completely ignoring the claims and instead try to attack the credibility of the source. No wonder you were so easily duped by the Steele Dossier & the Russian Collusion BS. Just stick to CNN mate you are a perfect match!
    So, the answer to the question Cyril asked you is no then.

  15. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So, the answer to the question Cyril asked you is no then.
    The answer is .. I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know, but I have enjoyed his many attempts at trying to discredit anybody that goes against his propaganda narratives. I'd certainly give the young man 10/10 for his BS ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The answer is .. I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know, but I have enjoyed his many attempts at trying to discredit anybody that goes against his propaganda narratives. I'd certainly give the young man 10/10 for his BS ability
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  17. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It would be irony if cyril had any success with his observations, and I didn't have any. Unfortunately, we are still waiting for the tables to be turned!

  18. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The answer is .. I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know, but I have enjoyed his many attempts at trying to discredit anybody that goes against his propaganda narratives. I'd certainly give the young man 10/10 for his BS ability
    So in summary the question was:

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?

    and your answer is:

    I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know

    I can't think for a moment why people question your coherence and credibility.

  19. #119

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    Bloody corrupt lot those Ukrainians if you ask me .

    Why would anyone want to do business with them is a little worrying , if were allowed to say that ?

  20. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So in summary the question was:

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?

    and your answer is:

    I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know

    I can't think for a moment why people question your coherence and credibility.
    Your grandstanding may impress your friends, but it does very little for me. At least you are consistent when it comes to getting everything wrong. It must have been galling for you to witness me calling out the Russian Collusion hoax way back in 2017, and then seeing my assumptions proven correct. Ditto the Mueller investigation which you believed right up until the very last moment. The thing is you don't even learn from your mistakes, you just stumble into the next media created shit-fest with all guns blazing, expecting a different outcome which never quite materialises



  21. #121

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    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?
    Whilst I think he'll get through it, if I were him I'd probably not be so confident as he appears, RINO's will always be RINO's at heart and I suspect quite a few of them have a bit that they would rather not be made public, if it were a secret ballot/vote then I think he would sink. Possibly, a few Demo's may break rank and go against Nanshi especially the ones with slim majorities in traditional republican area's, the trial is starting off Ukraine based, but will it end as Ukraine based as this IMO, is a dead duck before it has started. ?

  23. #123

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Whilst I think he'll get through it, if I were him I'd probably not be so confident as he appears, RINO's will always be RINO's at heart and I suspect quite a few of them have a bit that they would rather not be made public, if it were a secret ballot/vote then I think he would sink. Possibly, a few Demo's may break rank and go against Nanshi especially the ones with slim majorities in traditional republican area's, the trial is starting off Ukraine based, but will it end as Ukraine based as this IMO, is a dead duck before it has started. ?
    I'll stick my neck out as say it's all a load of bollocks, as was the Steele Dossier, Trump Russia Collusion, Obstruction of Justice, Mueller Report & the Kavanaugh saga. The astute among us will know that my hunches are nearly always right

  24. #124

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    I think it's going nowhere ,this attempted impeachment is cleverly timed by the Democrats who have been seeking impeachment with a wide range of accusations, ever since Trump did a number on dodgy Clinton . (when think of it how embarrassing was that loss 🤯 )

    This could backfire on them come the next election if they haven't got it water tight, as I'm sure the Republicans are going to bring to the fore all of the failed attempts .

    Where's Stormy Daniels gone I missed her .😉😋😁

  25. #125

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    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.

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