Wow , quite a speech and an attack is it true ?????Originally Posted by jackrabbit
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Wow , quite a speech and an attack is it true ?????
It was a widely publicised attack on Corbyn when he made it in early September. The national Tory press loved it - not just Steve Baker and his 'Spartan' ERG mates. It is no surprise at all. You only have to look for a few minutes at the track record of Ian Austin to decide whether his Parliamentary rant was true or not.
He has previous for abusive behaviour - in the Commons and against former Labour colleagues. He is a Labour Friends of Israel stalwart and has had to apologise in the past for false claims of anti-semitism. He was a Gordon Brown tail gunner for a while but has moved rapidly further right in recent years and has supported private schools, no deal Brexit (despite backing Remain in the referendum) and was vociferous in his attacks on Corbyn for his opposition to Blair and the Iraq War when the Chilcott Report came out in 2016. He is also an expenses cheat!
You bet your sweet arse it’s true. Corbyn is an avowed communist who has always sided with enemies of this country. He was a particular fan of the IRA.
Tory ****
Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?
Corbyn was ahead of his time, was doing what Blair had to do to get the good Friday agreement 25 years before him.fact is you have to talk to people you don't like in order to reach a compromise.
No but I was around in the 70s and 80s and had the misfortune for a time to be a resident of the London Borough of Haringey where a young hard-left councillor called J Corbyn was just starting to get noticed. So I have followed his career with some interest for some time. It might be news to you, but Cuddly Corby is a self-avowed Marxist. Do you yourself read anything apart from this board?
Tory ****. It wouldn't matter who was in charge of the labour party you would eat up any propaganda the tory press fed you to make yourself feel better about being a tory ****.
Very constructive and well thought-out response
You don't deserve one you tory ****
No but I was around in the 70s and 80s and had the misfortune for a time to be a resident of the London Borough of Haringey where a young hard-left councillor called J Corbyn was just starting to get noticed. So I have followed his career with some interest for some time. It might be news to you, but Cuddly Corby is a self-avowed Marxist. Do you yourself read anything apart from this board?
No he isn't, he identifies as a democratic socialist
BYeah, what was he thinking? Talking openly to these organisations and trying to sort things out without further bloodshed (while as we now know, Thatcher was secretly meeting them, going public wouldn’t have done much for her hang ‘em high, gung ho persona). Hypothetically speaking had Corbyn, not Blair been Prime Minister perhaps there wouldn’t have been so many grieving relatives of British soldiers. Corbyn stuck to his beliefs, didn’t piss off and form another party like other shithouses have who couldn’t get their own way. He toughed it out, stuck to his beliefs and eventually became leader. Only thing I’d pull him up on is his reluctance to back ‘Remain’ 100%, which pisses me off.
Thing is with the EU is that corbyn sees it as a Neo Liberal project that supported austerity, he campaigned to stay in the EU back in 2016 on a remain and Reform ticket. It's a difficult one for him as plenty of the people who voted out are from the poorest parts of the UK who have seen industry and jobs decimated, in turn, plenty of desperate people thought that their lack of opportunity was because of immigration (Bingo-the poor blaming the poor) not because of the government inducing Austerity and the decision backed by the EU, add to that shithouse bosses employing cheap Labour with zero working conditions. Corbyn can't really alienate these people by throwing his hat in with remain, in my opinion, he does have to be pragmatic. The problem he has is that alot of his support and the rise in membership because of him are from the middle classes. They may not even be that political but want a fairer society for all with opportunity for everyone, i believe that these people haven't been effected as badly by austerity and EU policies. It's a difficult one for him.
Had the same agruement in work with a delivery driver when was going called me a terrorist backer.
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