All not well in the Wales camp?

[Mr Soul '68]

We had bad results too in the speed and Coleman eras.

Speed and Coleman didn't have the quality of players that Giggs currently has to choose from.

[BLUETIT]

Speed and Coleman didn't have the quality of YOUNGplayers that Giggs currently has to choose from.

FYP

[Mr Soul '68]

FYP

Tony, I'd say the current crop of players Giggs had at his disposal is better all round than any players Speed and Coleman had to pick from, whether they are young or not. But I guess this is maybe a discussion for another thread?

[Wales-Bales]

Tony, I'd say the current crop of players Giggs had at his disposal is better all round than any players Speed and Coleman had to pick from, whether they are young or not. But I guess this is maybe a discussion for another thread?

They are better, but the youngsters still need time to bed in, as they are only just starting out on their football journeys.

[BLUETIT]

Tony, I'd say the current crop of players Giggs had at his disposal is better all round than any players Speed and Coleman had to pick from, whether they are young or not. But I guess this is maybe a discussion for another thread?

I totally agree, not a lover of Giggs, but he’s in the same position as Tosh was 11 years ago.

We can’t say “you don’t win anything with kids”, as it’s been proved wrong.

I just wish he (Giggs), would take the shackles off the kids, as Fergie did at United.

They are bursting a gut to attack, but are playing under orders. As you say, better kids than we’ve had for a long time