Etien Velikonja - Big Ken

[Trigger]

I can't believe you compared Ken to etien velikonja. Maybe Fred and Velikonja.

[mazadona10]

I like Ken as a striker he big quick and a decent finisher. I think the problem is he's not great in any of those areas.

He's playing against defenders who are stronger and quicker than him and better footballers.

He's not going to be the first striker who is struggling to score in the premier league. There aren't many players who can be prolific for struggling teams in the pl only 15 players got more than 10 goals and the majority of them play for top 6 teams.

I'm not sure the constant switching of strikers is really helping anyone.

I personally would stick with him as out of all of them I've seen Zohore at his best is the best option. I think we need to Get him working the channels where he might be able to use his strength against full backs.

[the other bob wilson]

I like Ken as a striker he big quick and a decent finisher. I think the problem is he's not great in any of those areas.

He's playing against defenders who are stronger and quicker than him and better footballers.

He's not going to be the first striker who is struggling to score in the premier league. There aren't many players who can be prolific for struggling teams in the pl only 15 players got more than 10 goals and the majority of them play for top 6 teams.

I'm not sure the constant switching of strikers is really helping anyone.

I personally would stick with him as out of all of them I've seen Zohore at his best is the best option. I think we need to Get him working the channels where he might be able to use his strength against full backs.

I agree with your comments about him working the channels because I'd say that's where he is most effective, but I'm not overly concerned about him not scoring, it's more his attitude that worries me. Although he wasn't playing as well when he came back from injury last season, there was still the occasional match where he would cause good Championship defenders all sorts of problems, but, for me, something's not been right with him from pre season this time around and I don't believe it can all be put down to the jump in standards from last year.

[Jimmy the Jock]

I agree with your comments about him working the channels because I'd say that's where he is most effective, but I'm not overly concerned about him not scoring, it's more his attitude that worries me. Although he wasn't playing as well when he came back from injury last season, there was still the occasional match where he would cause good Championship defenders all sorts of problems, but, for me, something's not been right with him from pre season this time around and I don't believe it can all be put down to the jump in standards from last year.

He had a wage rise and his head went. Personally I think he still has something to offer.
Obviously not heading the ball either.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

He had a wage rise and his head went. Personally I think he still has something to offer.
Obviously not heading the ball either.

He was on fire the first 5 games of last season, after the wage rise. I think once the Brighton/Everton rumoured moves died, so did his commitment to the cause, so to speak. He's been a shadow of the player he was after that.

[Loramski]

I can't believe you compared Ken to etien velikonja. Maybe Fred and Velikonja.

Easy tiger. Velikonja got 29 goals in 52 first team appearances as a City player, an outstanding record.

[jon1959]

Easy tiger. Velikonja got 29 goals in 52 first team appearances as a City player, an outstanding record.

Was that some other Etien, or some other Velikonja, or some other figment of your impressive imagination?

[ken smith]

Was that some other Etien, or some other Velikonja, or some other figment of your impressive imagination?

When he was out on loan I reckon

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Was that some other Etien, or some other Velikonja, or some other figment of your impressive imagination?

He did, in fairness. Shame only 3 of those appearances were for Cardiff. Got 28 in 40 apps for Lierse.

[jon1959]

When he was out on loan I reckon

He did, in fairness. Shame only 3 of those appearances were for Cardiff. Got 28 in 40 apps for Lierse.

I'm sure that is true, but when he was out on loan he was not a 'City player' even if City were his parent club.

I think it is a mistake to introduce facts and statistics when talking about Etien Velikonja. It detracts from the myth and the legend!