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  1. #1

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Oh dear. Another kick in the balls for the lower leagues. I can see it from both sides but being a football romantic this just doesnt sit well with me.
    As long as the premier league big boys are alright though...

  2. #2

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    As long as the premier league big boys are alright though...
    As i said, I can also see it from their perspective, the teams who go furthest in the various competitions they enter, especially the ones in Europe, there are too many games. Particualrly those with many international regulars. These guys are still human remember. Thats why I didnt think scrapping them from 5th round and the business end of the season onwards was such a bad idea.

    But to take away the opportunity for a lower league team to earn a replay against a premier league club in rounds 3 and 4, I think thats shit.

    It should have been left as it was at least, or if wanting to do something about the number of games maybe they could make replyas optional in the earlier roudns. ie if both clubs in the tie agree that they are both happy to proceed without a replay before a ball is kicked then that option is there for them.

  3. #3

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    As i said, I can also see it from their perspective, the teams who go furthest in the various competitions they enter, especially the ones in Europe, there are too many games. Particualrly those with many international regulars. These guys are still human remember. Thats why I didnt think scrapping them from 5th round and the business end of the season onwards was such a bad idea.

    But to take away the opportunity for a lower league team to earn a replay against a premier league club in rounds 3 and 4, I think thats shit.

    It should have been left as it was at least, or if wanting to do something about the number of games maybe they could make replyas optional in the earlier roudns. ie if both clubs in the tie agree that they are both happy to proceed without a replay before a ball is kicked then that option is there for them.
    I don't think the players and being tired come into it

    It's all about money

  4. #4

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    As i said, I can also see it from their perspective, the teams who go furthest in the various competitions they enter, especially the ones in Europe, there are too many games. Particualrly those with many international regulars. These guys are still human remember. Thats why I didnt think scrapping them from 5th round and the business end of the season onwards was such a bad idea.

    But to take away the opportunity for a lower league team to earn a replay against a premier league club in rounds 3 and 4, I think thats shit.

    It should have been left as it was at least, or if wanting to do something about the number of games maybe they could make replyas optional in the earlier roudns. ie if both clubs in the tie agree that they are both happy to proceed without a replay before a ball is kicked then that option is there for them.
    Make the European game straight two legged knock out from the start rather than the ridiculous, sometimes boring, league system which swamps domestic football for 75% of the season. The European Cup was much better in the past. Teams had to be on their mettle all the time rather than having many other chances to get to the latter stages.

  5. #5

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Make the European game straight two legged knock out from the start rather than the ridiculous, sometimes boring, league system which swamps domestic football for 75% of the season. The European Cup was much better in the past. Teams had to be on their mettle all the time rather than having many other chances to get to the latter stages.
    Well thats never going to happen in a million years. UEFA have a lot more clout than the Football League!

    I cant believe the big leagues and clubs havent got together and told international football to sling its hook. 100 million pounbd assets, being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds per week, being loaned to their countries for around 10-15 games a season. Could save players playing many games there.

  6. #6

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Well thats never going to happen in a million years. UEFA have a lot more clout than the Football League!

    I cant believe the big leagues and clubs havent got together and told international football to sling its hook. 100 million pounbd assets, being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds per week, being loaned to their countries for around 10-15 games a season. Could save players playing many games there.
    Way too many international games played. Teams should be allowed to play in qualifiers and set up their own friendlies. All these international breaks ruin momentum in the league, a Leeds fan in work was on about it Saturday night just gone.

  7. #7

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by Dembe View Post
    Way too many international games played. Teams should be allowed to play in qualifiers and set up their own friendlies. All these international breaks ruin momentum in the league, a Leeds fan in work was on about it Saturday night just gone.
    I agree. From a betting point of view too I fecking hate the international break.

  8. #8

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Make the European game straight two legged knock out from the start rather than the ridiculous, sometimes boring, league system which swamps domestic football for 75% of the season. The European Cup was much better in the past. Teams had to be on their mettle all the time rather than having many other chances to get to the latter stages.
    I like having European football to watch midweek, as do millions of others.

  9. #9

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by Dembe View Post
    I like having European football to watch midweek, as do millions of others.
    And millions don’t bother watching the group games, many of them dead rubbers. A bit contradictory managers & coaches complaining about too many games yet condone the present system. It’s all geared to the television fan. With our 24 team division we’re very often in action anyway on Champions League nights, so we’re either down the City or, if we’re away, watching us in our houses rather than a European match.
    I rarely watch a Champions League group game and as for the other Euro competitions, never.

  10. #10

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    It’s all geared to the television fan.
    Not really, (Close your eyes Sludge) I know quite a few lads from Merthyr who follow Liverpool everywhere and the group stages gives them at least 3 european trips most seasons. Judging by the amount of fans English clubs take abroad I imagine they are happy with the group stages too.

    Then theres the clubs who dont get into Europe every season, the group stages are great for those clubs and the fans who follow them.

    They might be a bjt boring for the teams that always reach the quarter finals onwards but in the main I think the group stages cater well for the rest.

    As a TV fan of the Champions League though I dont really bother until rounds 5 or 6 of the group stages.

  11. #11

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Not really, (Close your eyes Sludge) I know quite a few lads from Merthyr who follow Liverpool everywhere and the group stages gives them at least 3 european trips most seasons. Judging by the amount of fans English clubs take abroad I imagine they are happy with the group stages too.

    Then theres the clubs who dont get into Europe every season, the group stages are great for those clubs and the fans who follow them.

    They might be a bjt boring for the teams that always reach the quarter finals onwards but in the main I think the group stages cater well for the rest.

    As a TV fan of the Champions League though I dont really bother until rounds 5 or 6 of the group stages.
    Yes, I agree that fans of clubs may enjoy the group stages and I’d love us to be involved. But I’d find it annoying if our manager, if it ever happened, then complained that we were playing too many games and the players were tired.

    It would be more exciting for fans of the not so glamorous clubs having a chance of progressing through the old two legged system. Unfortunately the days of Malmo, Hamburg, Forest, Bruges etc are long gone. Cup games and competition should be all about ‘on the day’ not a long drawn out execution.

  12. #12

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Neil Warnock has tweeted about the magic of the FA cup.

    It's a shame that when he was here he didn't seem to give two hoots about it

  13. #13

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    As i said, I can also see it from their perspective, the teams who go furthest in the various competitions they enter, especially the ones in Europe, there are too many games. Particualrly those with many international regulars. These guys are still human remember. Thats why I didnt think scrapping them from 5th round and the business end of the season onwards was such a bad idea.

    But to take away the opportunity for a lower league team to earn a replay against a premier league club in rounds 3 and 4, I think thats shit.

    It should have been left as it was at least, or if wanting to do something about the number of games maybe they could make replyas optional in the earlier roudns. ie if both clubs in the tie agree that they are both happy to proceed without a replay before a ball is kicked then that option is there for them.
    I don't make a habit of listening to talksport but I had it on in the car last night to listen to the Liverpool game, afterwards they mentioned the teams in Europe not playing in the league cup, it made sense. You could keep the replays as they had them in the FA Cup then, they're pretty rare if you looked at it percentage wise so the likelihood of the teams in Europe being faced with a replay would be small, and they'd also not have the games from the league cup, makes sense to me.

  14. #14

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by Dembe View Post
    I don't make a habit of listening to talksport but I had it on in the car last night to listen to the Liverpool game, afterwards they mentioned the teams in Europe not playing in the league cup, it made sense. You could keep the replays as they had them in the FA Cup then, they're pretty rare if you looked at it percentage wise so the likelihood of the teams in Europe being faced with a replay would be small, and they'd also not have the games from the league cup, makes sense to me.
    Ive said that for many a year, league cup for teams not competing in Europe.

  15. #15

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Ive said that for many a year, league cup for teams not competing in Europe.
    Won't happen, there'll be some bollocks about sponsorship, but thats definitely the way to go.

  16. #16

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by Dembe View Post
    Won't happen, there'll be some bollocks about sponsorship, but thats definitely the way to go.
    Yeah the sponsors wont be happy if the big boys are not in their competiion, youre right

  17. #17

    Re: FA Cup replays scrapped

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Yeah the sponsors wont be happy if the big boys are not in their competiion, youre right
    As pointed out on talkshite, who the **** drinks carabao anyway?

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