The dutch general election. The biggest one so far for the right wing?

[Pearcey3]

Thank you for your erudite response. Are you perhaps a lecturer in demographics at one of our more prestigious universities?

The Netherlands will be an Islamic country. Even if Muslims are not the majority population they are so well organised that they will be able to take political control of the country. In every city in the UK the local Muslims are attempting to take over the local parties by signing up ghost members who push to get their coreligionists elected as councillors and MPs. It is the same all over Europe. Muslims can get thousands of demonstrators on the streets of any town or city in Europe in half an hour. A country full of disconnected individuals will be no match for a such a well organised and goal oriented group who are willing to die for their cause.

In addition to the higher Muslim birth rate of Dutch Muslims you will have an enormous amount of immigration and you will have conversions. The interesting thing about conversions is that it is the people at the top and their relatives who will be converting first because they know which way the wind is blowing. These top people will then use their influence to speed up Islamisation.

My response was a damn sight more erudite than your bullshit. The Netherlands has a current Muslim population of 6%. It is calculated that the Muslim population in Western Eurpe increases by 1% every decade. So in say 40 years time or two generations from now the Muslim population in the Netherlands will be around 10%. Just to be clear you originally stated that the Netherlands wil be an Islamic country in two generations.

Stop deliberately exaggerating and distorting the truth.

[David Vincent]

My response was a damn sight more erudite than your bullshit. The Netherlands has a current Muslim population of 6%. It is calculated that the Muslim population in Western Eurpe increases by 1% every decade. So in say 40 years time or two generations from now the Muslim population in the Netherlands will be around 10%. Just to be clear you originally stated that the Netherlands wil be an Islamic country in two generations.

Stop deliberately exaggerating and distorting the truth.

Thank you for putting my mind at rest. You say it has been calculated that the Muslim population only increases by 1% every ten years. If that's the case then the takeover is a long time off. But hold on. It says in this link that the Muslim population of the UK increased by 75% between 2001 and 2011. Either you've been telling deliberate fibs or you are about as numerate as the average tadpole.

https://www.rt.com/uk/231675-muslim-...tion-rises-1m/

[lardy]

Thank you for putting my mind at rest. You say it has been calculated that the Muslim population only increases by 1% every ten years. If that's the case then the takeover is a long time off. But hold on. It says in this link that the Muslim population of the UK increased by 75% between 2001 and 2011. Either you've been telling deliberate fibs or you are about as numerate as the average tadpole.

https://www.rt.com/uk/231675-muslim-...tion-rises-1m/

Pearcey's percentage refers to the proportion of the population as a whole.

Your percentage refers to the difference between two numbers.

They're two different statistics. Even a tadpole would realise that.

[David Vincent]

Pearcey's percentage refers to the proportion of the population as a whole.

Your percentage refers to the difference between two numbers.

They're two different statistics. Even a tadpole would realise that.

If he meant the Muslim proportion of the population rather than the Muslim population increases by 1% every decade then he should have written that. Why should I assume that he didn't mean what he wrote? I only give the benefit of the doubt to people who I think know what they are talking about and he is not in that group - and neither are you for that matter. Anyway he is still wrong. On top of the higher Muslim birth rate you will have an enormous amount of Muslim immigration and then you will have hundreds of thousands and later millions converting to Islam. The enormous growth in the Muslim population in Europe between 2001 and 2011 will dwarfed by the 2011-2021 figure. Just wait until these Soros migrants bring their relatives and friends over.

[Pearcey3]

Vincent. You are just a troll. My previous post made very clear that it was in relation to the entire population and had you bothered to do some checking you would have realised that anyway. It clearly has to be spelt out to you for there to be a basic understanding. You were clearly unable to work out that a specific rise in the Muslim population only resulted in a very small rise in tbe overall percentage of Muslims living in Western Europe.

Now instesd of all the scaremongering please prove just one report which states the Netherlands will be under Islamist control in two generations time. Just one report only is required.

[David Vincent]

Vincent. You are just a troll. My previous post made very clear that it was in relation to the entire population and had you bothered to do some checking you would have realised that anyway. It clearly has to be spelt out to you for there to be a basic understanding. You were clearly unable to work out that a specific rise in the Muslim population only resulted in a very small rise in tbe overall percentage of Muslims living in Western Europe.

Now instesd of all the scaremongering please prove just one report which states the Netherlands will be under Islamist control in two generations time. Just one report only is required.

I'm off for a few pints so I will reply to you and the other idiot later but before I go just want to remind you that this is exactly what you wrote "It is calculated that the Muslim population in Western Europe increases by 1% every decade". Now you are attacking me for responding to your exact words. I suppose you are the kind of person who shouts "But I asked for a pound of sausages” at the shopkeeper when they give you a pound of bacon because that is what you ordered. If your mind is so disordered that you can't say what you mean then you are just going to continue to make a fool of yourself on this messageboard.

[Rjk]

I'm off for a few pints so I will reply to you and the other idiot later but before I go just want to remind you that this is exactly what you wrote "It is calculated that the Muslim population in Western Europe increases by 1% every decade". Now you are attacking me for responding to your exact words. I suppose you are the kind of person who shouts "But I asked for a pound of sausages” at the shopkeeper when they give you a pound of bacon because that is what you ordered. If your mind is so disordered that you can't say what you mean then you are just going to continue to make a fool of yourself on this messageboard.

Yeah, they're the ones making a fool of themselves. Definitely not you. No sir.

[lardy]

If he meant the Muslim proportion of the population rather than the Muslim population increases by 1% every decade then he should have written that. Why should I assume that he didn't mean what he wrote? I only give the benefit of the doubt to people who I think know what they are talking about and he is not in that group - and neither are you for that matter. Anyway he is still wrong. On top of the higher Muslim birth rate you will have an enormous amount of Muslim immigration and then you will have hundreds of thousands and later millions converting to Islam. The enormous growth in the Muslim population in Europe between 2001 and 2011 will dwarfed by the 2011-2021 figure. Just wait until these Soros migrants bring their relatives and friends over.

feck me

The conversation which you started is about the proportion as a whole. It shouldn't need to be pointed out every time.

Your percentage increase is meaningless in this conversation. For example, going from 5 to 5,000 is a huge percentage increase but in a country of 10 million it's tiny. That on its own tells you nothing.

Good point about birth rates...but, erm, Pearcey's number already accounts for that.

Please reply again, this is gold

[Rjk]

feck me

The conversation which you started is about the proportion as a whole. It shouldn't need to be pointed out every time.

Your percentage increase is meaningless in this conversation. For example, going from 5 to 5,000 is a huge percentage increase but in a country of 10 million it's tiny. That on its own tells you nothing.

Good point about birth rates...but, erm, Pearcey's number already accounts for that.

Please reply again, this is gold

And do birth rates remain higher amongst 2nd and third generation immigrants? Some of the projections in this thread seems to suggest that they do, but im not sure that's the case

[LordKenwyne]

I don't think I agree with this whole idea that it is planned from Muslims. That they are trying to change the course of history of birthing more Muslims George Soros!.

Atheism and Secularism is rapidly rising the more enlightened we become.

Islam and Christianity will not exist forever. I see that as a FACT.

As they replaced the ancient religions something else will take the place of these.

More than likely a war will occur where people generally become totally sick of the Abrahamic religions and the heartache they bring.

+ We are all human beings really aren't we. No one is pedigree, we are all a mishmash of different ethnicities. I don't really care what the make up of different continents is in a thousand years time. Migration is a fact of life and the world we currently live in looks the way it does because of it. People talk as if white, civilised & Christian Europeans have lived where they have since the dawn of man

[David Vincent]

feck me

The conversation which you started is about the proportion as a whole. It shouldn't need to be pointed out every time.

Your percentage increase is meaningless in this conversation. For example, going from 5 to 5,000 is a huge percentage increase but in a country of 10 million it's tiny. That on its own tells you nothing.

Good point about birth rates...but, erm, Pearcey's number already accounts for that.

Please reply again, this is gold

The proportion of Muslims to the total population is a misleading figure. What it overlooks is that the average age of Muslim women is younger than the average age of non-Muslim women and therefore a greater proportion of Muslim women can have children. Although they might be only 5% of a total population the proportion of Muslim children born each year will be much higher than that figure. Add to this a much higher fertility rate for Muslims - if the average age was the same they would still have more kids. And then add immigration and conversions and you end up with a Muslim population growing much faster than we are being told.

It is hard to get the figures because the European governments don't want you to know. In fact, our government wants to get rid of the census. They say the reason is cost but this reason was never given before by governments when data collection was much more expensive.

Because Muslims are united and directed toward a common goal they will be able to take control even when they are not a majority of the population. I am not saying this is a bad thing or a good thing. It is just inevitable. Some people who are not Muslim now might be happier if they became Muslims. I'm thinking of those who are not satisfied with one wife and those lonely people who might be cheered up by a daily visit to the mosque to pray and chat to friends.

Our politicians and their oligarch controllers want Muslim immigration because they dread a population decrease. Without Muslims – and other high breeding immigrants - our population would fall dramatically and the oligarchs would have to start paying higher wages. They want cheap labour. These globalist oligarchs see people only as factors of production.

[Rjk]

The proportion of Muslims to the total population is a misleading figure. What it overlooks is that the average age of Muslim women is younger than the average age of non-Muslim women and therefore a greater proportion of Muslim women can have children. Although they might be only 5% of a total population the proportion of Muslim children born each year will be much higher than that figure. Add to this a much higher fertility rate for Muslims - if the average age was the same they would still have more kids. And then add immigration and conversions and you end up with a Muslim population growing much faster than we are being told.

It is hard to get the figures because the European governments don't want you to know. In fact, our government wants to get rid of the census. They say the reason is cost but this reason was never given before by governments when data collection was much more expensive.

Because Muslims are united and directed toward a common goal they will be able to take control even when they are not a majority of the population. I am not saying this is a bad thing or a good thing. It is just inevitable. Some people who are not Muslim now might be happier if they became Muslims. I'm thinking of those who are not satisfied with one wife and those lonely people who might be cheered up by a daily visit to the mosque to pray and chat to friends.

Our politicians and their oligarch controllers want Muslim immigration because they dread a population decrease. Without Muslims – and other high breeding immigrants - our population would fall dramatically and the oligarchs would have to start paying higher wages. They want cheap labour. These globalist oligarchs see people only as factors of production.

Wow I think I just got a clean sweep on "hate filled rant" bingo with that effort.

We got:
Globalist oligarchs
Governments lying about the real* rate of immigration
Muslims working as one to overthrow our society
High breeding immigrants

*Real as in in line with the views of extremists

[Organ Morgan.]

The proportion of Muslims to the total population is a misleading figure. What it overlooks is that the average age of Muslim women is younger than the average age of non-Muslim women and therefore a greater proportion of Muslim women can have children. Although they might be only 5% of a total population the proportion of Muslim children born each year will be much higher than that figure. Add to this a much higher fertility rate for Muslims - if the average age was the same they would still have more kids. And then add immigration and conversions and you end up with a Muslim population growing much faster than we are being told.

It is hard to get the figures because the European governments don't want you to know. In fact, our government wants to get rid of the census. They say the reason is cost but this reason was never given before by governments when data collection was much more expensive.

Because Muslims are united and directed toward a common goal they will be able to take control even when they are not a majority of the population. I am not saying this is a bad thing or a good thing. It is just inevitable. Some people who are not Muslim now might be happier if they became Muslims. I'm thinking of those who are not satisfied with one wife and those lonely people who might be cheered up by a daily visit to the mosque to pray and chat to friends.

Our politicians and their oligarch controllers want Muslim immigration because they dread a population decrease. Without Muslims – and other high breeding immigrants - our population would fall dramatically and the oligarchs would have to start paying higher wages. They want cheap labour. These globalist oligarchs see people only as factors of production.

I don't agree with your last paragraph, Dai. Suppressing wages is an aspect but not nearly as important as weakening national identity and causing divisions. The more that the herd squabble with one another then the better it is for those pulling the strings. Everything Soros does is indicative of their core agenda.