Type 2 Diabetes

[Mrs Steve R]

What are you using (Apps, readers etc) to help control your blood sugar levels and does your Health Care Professional use anything to help you control?

I work in Diabetes and what you have mentioned is the biggest challenge of all, you can have the tools, apps, medicine, white papers etc but its so hard to change habits of a lifetime. If the Pharma can crack that, they'll be laughing all the way to the bank!!

One thing that is overlooked in Diabetes and i don't want to scare you (or maybe i do) is just how dangerous and f***ing annoying it is. Those that don't have it seems to think and accept that it is easy to control with a medicine. People who live with this disease NEVER get a break, even in their sleep, none stop.

Good luck mate

Coconut oil helps control blood sugar and insulin levels, I'm not diabetic but I know from experience in the last few months it has helped me change the way I eat dramatically, I was all over the place before, I used to binge eat and eat crap all the time, I'm surprised that I never had Diabetes tbh.
I have mine in the morning but if you have it with carbs they are broken down into glucose more slowly so your sugar levels remain steady even after you have eaten, I feel in control now, I don't have any cravings, I'm not hungry.

I wont even go in to some of the terrible habits I had before

Exactly. He's on a very strict keto diet. I've been on a version of it myself. Have MCT in my coffee every morning.

I'm not even on a strict keto diet, I just have the oil with my own made up diet and that's working for me (88lbs now), do you feel well on it? I feel great!

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[NYCBlue]

Coconut oil helps control blood sugar and insulin levels, I'm not diabetic but I know from experience in the last few months it has helped me change the way I eat dramatically, I was all over the place before, I used to binge eat and eat crap all the time, I'm surprised that I never had Diabetes tbh.
I have mine in the morning but if you have it with carbs they are broken down into glucose more slowly so your sugar levels remain steady even after you have eaten, I feel in control now, I don't have any cravings, I'm not hungry.

I wont even go in to some of the terrible habits I had before


I'm not even on a strict keto diet, I just have the oil with my own made up diet and that's working for me (88lbs now), do you feel well on it? I feel great!

More good news..

Ketogenic Diets Have "Profound Effect on Brain Function," Studies Find
http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spi...ity-and-memory

I feel pretty good. Perhaps a bit more energy during the day. Nothing crazy. I've lost about 15 lbs over 4 months. What I have noticed, is that carbs upset my rhythm now. I just don't feel right.

[Mrs Steve R]

I feel pretty good. Perhaps a bit more energy during the day. Nothing crazy. I've lost about 15 lbs over 4 months. What I have noticed, is that carbs upset my rhythm now. I just don't feel right.

I know what you mean, having stuff I wouldn't normally have over Christmas made me feel like crap, which is good I guess.

[the other bob wilson]

I really need to to lose weight and have decided to have a proper go at doing so this year. I don't have have diabetes, but, like Mrs Steve R, am somewhat surprised that I don't do so, because, in many ways, I seem a natural candidate for it. I had made up my mind that I would try a soup and smoothies diet, but I'd be interested in hearing more about coconut oil - it seems that the oil helps with the weight loss process, but doesn't cause it, so how would your eating habits change if you started using it?

[NYCBlue]

I really need to to lose weight and have decided to have a proper go at doing so this year. I don't have have diabetes, but, like Mrs Steve R, am somewhat surprised that I don't do so, because, in many ways, I seem a natural candidate for it. I had made up my mind that I would try a soup and smoothies diet, but I'd be interested in hearing more about coconut oil - it seems that the oil helps with the weight loss process, but doesn't cause it, so how would your eating habits change if you started using it?

Look into keto diets. No beer, sugar, bread or potatoes. But as much meat, eggs, butter, cream and cheese as you want. And you can still drink spirits. Scotch and soda is my tipple now. It's relatively easy to stick to. The only problem for me is eating out or ordering lunch. If I forget or neglect to pack myself a lunch, I usually order an omelette. One of the great things that I have found is that I don't have to eat extra food to compensate for the carbs. So for example, I just eat the omelette with no home fries or toast and I'm still satisfied.

[Mrs Steve R]

I really need to to lose weight and have decided to have a proper go at doing so this year. I don't have have diabetes, but, like Mrs Steve R, am somewhat surprised that I don't do so, because, in many ways, I seem a natural candidate for it. I had made up my mind that I would try a soup and smoothies diet, but I'd be interested in hearing more about coconut oil - it seems that the oil helps with the weight loss process, but doesn't cause it, so how would your eating habits change if you started using it?

Personally I would give the smoothies diet a miss because you can cram a hell of a lot of fruit in to one smoothie that you would not normally eat in one day, I think eating it whole is far better for you.
I have just been doing my own thing really, I don't eat meat and certain fruits make my mouth itch so I've built my plan around that, I still have my favourite cauliflower cheese twice a week and the rest of the time I have fruit, salads, seeded bread ect, I use honey instead of sugar and avoid processed foods and artificial sweeteners like the plague.

My sister argues that if I was doing the same thing without taking the oil I would have lost more weight but I don't believe I would have stuck to it if I hadn't, the oil is processed in a different way so I don't have the same dips and highs throughout the day like I did before, I don't even think about food throughout the day now, before it would not have been unusual for me to have munched my way through a box of french fancies by this time of day (shocking)

You can find good and bad stories on the internet about coconut oil many based on old research from when saturated fat was wrongly demonised, saturated fats are essential for good health..

“Saturated fats found in butter and coconut oil (myristic acid and lauric acid) play key roles in immune health. Loss of sufficient saturated fatty acids in the white blood cells hampers their ability to recognize and destroy foreign invaders, such as viruses, bacteria, and fungi. Human breast milk is quite rich in myristic and lauric acid, which have potent germ-killing ability. But the importance of the fats lives on beyond infancy; we need dietary replenishment of them throughout adulthood, middle age, and into seniority to keep the immune system vigilant against the development of cancerous cells as well as infectious invaders.”
https://wellnessmama.com/1265/saturated-fat/

and they do not clog up your arteries..

"Among doctors and the public alike, there is a popular belief that dietary saturated fat clogs up the arteries and results in coronary heart disease. A new editorial published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine says that this notion of saturated fat clogging a pipe is "just plain wrong."
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317118.php

Unless you are still being breast fed I think it's worth taking for the lauric acid alone.

Obviously I'm not an expert and I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just saying what has been working for me, I will sort out a load of links for you and you can decide for yourself.

[the other bob wilson]

Personally I would give the smoothies diet a miss because you can cram a hell of a lot of fruit in to one smoothie that you would not normally eat in one day, I think eating it whole is far better for you.
I have just been doing my own thing really, I don't eat meat and certain fruits make my mouth itch so I've built my plan around that, I still have my favourite cauliflower cheese twice a week and the rest of the time I have fruit, salads, seeded bread ect, I use honey instead of sugar and avoid processed foods and artificial sweeteners like the plague.

My sister argues that if I was doing the same thing without taking the oil I would have lost more weight but I don't believe I would have stuck to it if I hadn't, the oil is processed in a different way so I don't have the same dips and highs throughout the day like I did before, I don't even think about food throughout the day now, before it would not have been unusual for me to have munched my way through a box of french fancies by this time of day (shocking)

You can find good and bad stories on the internet about coconut oil many based on old research from when saturated fat was wrongly demonised, saturated fats are essential for good health..

“Saturated fats found in butter and coconut oil (myristic acid and lauric acid) play key roles in immune health. Loss of sufficient saturated fatty acids in the white blood cells hampers their ability to recognize and destroy foreign invaders, such as viruses, bacteria, and fungi. Human breast milk is quite rich in myristic and lauric acid, which have potent germ-killing ability. But the importance of the fats lives on beyond infancy; we need dietary replenishment of them throughout adulthood, middle age, and into seniority to keep the immune system vigilant against the development of cancerous cells as well as infectious invaders.”
https://wellnessmama.com/1265/saturated-fat/

and they do not clog up your arteries..

"Among doctors and the public alike, there is a popular belief that dietary saturated fat clogs up the arteries and results in coronary heart disease. A new editorial published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine says that this notion of saturated fat clogging a pipe is "just plain wrong."
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317118.php

Unless you are still being breast fed I think it's worth taking for the lauric acid alone.

Obviously I'm not an expert and I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just saying what has been working for me, I will sort out a load of links for you and you can decide for yourself.

Thanks to you and NYC Blue for your replies. Regarding saturated fats, I first started thinking of trying to lose weight around thirty years ago and for about eighty to ninety per cent of that time, I tailored my diet around cutting right down on saturated fats - it wasn't as if you could eat as much sugar as you wanted, but saturated fat was definitely thought of as the villain of the piece.

I like what you say about coconut oil because it seems that, even if it does nothing else, it stops you feeling so hungry through the day, but, as someone who has a heart condition (atrial fibrillation), it's probably best to take rs3100's advice and check with my GP or fibrillation nurse before I try to make any drastic alterations to my diet - for now I think I'll stick with some of the foods you and NYC Blue talk about - I can see me having a lot of cheese salads which was something I virtually stopped eating back in my anything but saturated fat days.

[NYCBlue]

Thanks to you and NYC Blue for your replies. Regarding saturated fats, I first started thinking of trying to lose weight around thirty years ago and for about eighty to ninety per cent of that time, I tailored my diet around cutting right down on saturated fats - it wasn't as if you could eat as much sugar as you wanted, but saturated fat was definitely thought of as the villain of the piece.

I like what you say about coconut oil because it seems that, even if it does nothing else, it stops you feeling so hungry through the day, but, as someone who has a heart condition (atrial fibrillation), it's probably best to take rs3100's advice and check with my GP or fibrillation nurse before I try to make any drastic alterations to my diet - for now I think I'll stick with some of the foods you and NYC Blue talk about - I can see me having a lot of cheese salads which was something I virtually stopped eating back in my anything but saturated fat days.

I should have added that I do eat a lot of salads, with cheese, bacon, eggs, avocados etc. I've never enjoyed salad so much before.

[sneggyblubird]

Coconut oil helps control blood sugar and insulin levels, I'm not diabetic but I know from experience in the last few months it has helped me change the way I eat dramatically, I was all over the place before, I used to binge eat and eat crap all the time, I'm surprised that I never had Diabetes tbh.
I have mine in the morning but if you have it with carbs they are broken down into glucose more slowly so your sugar levels remain steady even after you have eaten, I feel in control now, I don't have any cravings, I'm not hungry.

I wont even go in to some of the terrible habits I had before


I'm not even on a strict keto diet, I just have the oil with my own made up diet and that's working for me (88lbs now), do you feel well on it? I feel great!

More good news..

Ketogenic Diets Have "Profound Effect on Brain Function," Studies Find
http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spi...ity-and-memory

Though I'm glad your diet works for you I looked into the claims you made about coconut oil when you last mentioned this and it appears to be the latest health fad.I would imagine that your success is down to watching what you eat more than the properties of coconut oil and therein lies the success of your diet methinks.I have been a type 1 diabetic since I was 26(now 60)and asked all the healthcare professionals I could corner about the benefits of coconut oil,none were positive but all said that theres no magic fix other than the amount of food you intake,counting your carbs and takeing some exercise.