The NHS, a bunch of drunks and my mum.

[Owen Wilsons Nose]

Should ban alcohol and force chavs to die in the street.

[Penybont Blue]

Sad to report but an exact carbon copy of what's happened to my Mum, but in Bridgend tonight.
Only good thing we waited about 20 mins for the ambulance as we tried to move her but couldn't, plus she is still currently in A&E waiting for a bed.

[TH63]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sick-patients-l eft-stranded-queue-8367980 (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sick-patients-left-stranded-queue-8367980)

[EdinburghBlue]

So, at midday the familly GP visits my mum and decides to admit her to the heath. Four hour wait for an ambulance, so we bundle her into a car and take her ourselves, to be met by a fleet of ambulances waiting around for the inevitable New Years eve carnage. My parents (both in their 80's) then hang around for SEVEN hours before finally seeing a doctor, a further 2 1/2 hours for a bed.
The doctors and nurses are fantastic to be fair but woefully understaffed, the situation made worse by a bunch of knuckle staggers who can't handle their ale. Rant overTry living in a country where it's cash up front before you get treatment. The NHS is one of the best instituions in the world, but now has to try to operate whilst battling with some of the scummiest keunts the country can throw at them.

[bobh]

One thing that did make me smile today was the curtains around the beds depicting Cardiff hospitals and various Cardiff landmarks, including the old cross of St.David Bluebirds badgeThat was our badge when the curtains were new.

[Observer]

[bluebirds over.......]

Took my boy to A&E 0n the evening of a 6 nations match, there was a woman there who had the biggest shiner i've ever seen, that was one nasty fall down the stairs.

[Matty P]

Took my boy to A&E 0n the evening of a 6 nations match, there was a woman there who had the biggest shiner i've ever seen, that was one nasty fall down the stairs.Seems to be too much bureaucracy and not enough funding/staff throughout the NHS.

[Harry Flashman]

bluebirds over....... wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:40] Took my boy to A&E 0n the evening of a 6 nations match, there was a woman there who had the biggest shiner i've ever seen, that was one nasty fall down the stairs.What's weird about that is that women are ****s all year round.

Took my boy to A&E 0n the evening of a 6 nations match, there was a woman there who had the biggest shiner i've ever seen, that was one nasty fall down the stairs.
Sadly, I read an article that in certain Welsh counties there are additional police units available for the rise in domestic abuse during six nations games http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
What's weird about that is that women are ****s all year round.Thinly veiled 'this divorce is about as acrimonious as can be' post imho

[Jimmy Jimmy]

Labour at the WAG cut health spending - I think in region of about 10-15 %

Westminster Govt did not cut health spending in England

Doesnt help you much - but you have a direct choice next time there is a Welsh Govt election

[Steve R]

One thing that did make me smile today was the curtains around the beds depicting Cardiff hospitals and various Cardiff landmarks, including the old cross of St.David Bluebirds badgeHope everything goes well for your Mum.

[Jimmy Jimmy]

The NHS employs 1.5 million people - it's not a staff shortage - it's a resource shortage and there are certain people that use A&E like an unofficial out of hours surgery

[Harry Flashman]

Took my boy to A&E 0n the evening of a 6 nations match, there was a woman there who had the biggest shiner i've ever seen, that was one nasty fall down the stairs.
Sadly, I read an article that in certain Welsh counties there are additional police units available for the rise in domestic abuse during six nations games http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
What's weird about that is that women are ****s all year round.
Thinly veiled 'this divorce is about as acrimonious as can be' post imho http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[Mick the Miller]

I would willingly have 1% of my salary taken to fund new front line staff only for the NHS. Everyone should have this subscription taken when in work.

[TruBlue]

I would willingly have 1% of my salary taken to fund new front line staff only for the NHS. Everyone should have this subscription taken when in work.Yeah, they could call it something like National Insurance. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

[Vimana.]

I would willingly have 1% of my salary taken to fund new front line staff only for the NHS. Everyone should have this subscription taken when in work.TruBlue - I assume Mick meant a subscription ringfenced specifically for Health staffing ?

@Mick

You are free to make additional nics payments by opting to pay class 3 nics.

[Cardiff Bread]

So, at midday the familly GP visits my mum and decides to admit her to the heath. Four hour wait for an ambulance, so we bundle her into a car and take her ourselves, to be met by a fleet of ambulances waiting around for the inevitable New Years eve carnage. My parents (both in their 80's) then hang around for SEVEN hours before finally seeing a doctor, a further 2 1/2 hours for a bed.
The doctors and nurses are fantastic to be fair but woefully understaffed, the situation made worse by a bunch of knuckle staggers who can't handle their ale. Rant over
Sorry to hear this http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif I have experience of other countries, thanks. That wasn't quite my point, but lets not split hairs, eh? It's New Years Day http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

[Mountain Bluebird]

So, at midday the familly GP visits my mum and decides to admit her to the heath. Four hour wait for an ambulance, so we bundle her into a car and take her ourselves, to be met by a fleet of ambulances waiting around for the inevitable New Years eve carnage. My parents (both in their 80's) then hang around for SEVEN hours before finally seeing a doctor, a further 2 1/2 hours for a bed.
The doctors and nurses are fantastic to be fair but woefully understaffed, the situation made worse by a bunch of knuckle staggers who can't handle their ale. Rant over
Sorry to hear this http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif Exactly. Last time I was in the US had to seek treatment for an eye infection. Walked in and saw a doctor straight away...100 dollars.....prescribed a very small bottle of anti-biotic eye drops....240 dollars....prescribed a small tube of anti-biotic Eye cream.....140 dollars.

So, at midday the familly GP visits my mum and decides to admit her to the heath. Four hour wait for an ambulance, so we bundle her into a car and take her ourselves, to be met by a fleet of ambulances waiting around for the inevitable New Years eve carnage. My parents (both in their 80's) then hang around for SEVEN hours before finally seeing a doctor, a further 2 1/2 hours for a bed.
The doctors and nurses are fantastic to be fair but woefully understaffed, the situation made worse by a bunch of knuckle staggers who can't handle their ale. Rant over
Sorry to hear this http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif
I know it's popular to praise the NHS, but I've rarely had a good experience http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gifThankfully, being a sensible chap you had holiday insurance..

[Mountain Bluebird]

So, at midday the familly GP visits my mum and decides to admit her to the heath. Four hour wait for an ambulance, so we bundle her into a car and take her ourselves, to be met by a fleet of ambulances waiting around for the inevitable New Years eve carnage. My parents (both in their 80's) then hang around for SEVEN hours before finally seeing a doctor, a further 2 1/2 hours for a bed.
The doctors and nurses are fantastic to be fair but woefully understaffed, the situation made worse by a bunch of knuckle staggers who can't handle their ale. Rant over
Sorry to hear this http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif
I know it's popular to praise the NHS, but I've rarely had a good experience http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif
Try living in a country where it's cash up front before you get treatment. The NHS is one of the best instituions in the world, but now has to try to operate whilst battling with some of the scummiest keunts the country can throw at them.Yes, but it still had to be coughed at the time. Came home and my GP wrote me 2 prescriptions and I popped next door to the chemist and picked them up for nought http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Whilst the NHS is far from perfect I know where I would rather be ill if I didn't have much dosh http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[Jimmy Jimmy]

Lol http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif working title of a new film Educating Mick

[Vimana.]

Lol http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif working title of a new film Educating MickGood to see you are still naturally hilarious in 2015 http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/rolleyes.gif

[..............]

People in A&E for self inflicted alcohol related reasons should be made to pay.

[kevinNugentsHead]

People in A&E for self inflicted alcohol related reasons should be made to pay.What if its a one off? Lots of needless visits to a an e every week. Alcohol is obviously a factor, but there are a lot of other people needlessly wasting time in A&E aswell. Why just punish the drunks?

[Cardiff Bread]

People in A&E for self inflicted alcohol related reasons should be made to pay.
What if its a one off? Lots of needless visits to a an e every week. Alcohol is obviously a factor, but there are a lot of other people needlessly wasting time in A&E aswell. Why just punish the drunks? I've seen and experienced some very grim things at A&E in Cardiff http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif

[..............]

People in A&E for self inflicted alcohol related reasons should be made to pay.
What if its a one off? Lots of needless visits to a an e every week. Alcohol is obviously a factor, but there are a lot of other people needlessly wasting time in A&E aswell. Why just punish the drunks? Not prepared to behave responsibly? Either don't drink or expect to reimburse services that you effectively waste.

[Blue Countisbury]

[quote title=TH63 wrote on Wed, 31 December 2014 21:58]So, at midday the familly GP visits my mum and decides to admit her to the heath. Four hour wait for an ambulance, so we bundle her into a car and take her ourselves, to be met by a fleet of ambulances waiting around for the inevitable New Years eve carnage. My parents (both in their 80's) then hang around for SEVEN hours before finally seeing a doctor, a further 2 1/2 hours for a bed.
The doctors and nurses are fantastic to be fair but woefully understaffed, the situation made worse by a bunch of knuckle staggers who can't handle their ale. Rant over[/quote Same thing happened to me 3 weeks ago but gave up waiting at the Heath and went to Llandough instead. My mum was seen to within minutes. I once asked an ambulance guy why they are queued up outside A+E, he said the ambulances at the front of the queue can't leave without their own trollies. These are the ones with patients on queued up in corridors. Madness

[TruBlue]

People in A&E for self inflicted alcohol related reasons should be made to pay.
What if its a one off? Lots of needless visits to a an e every week. Alcohol is obviously a factor, but there are a lot of other people needlessly wasting time in A&E aswell. Why just punish the drunks?
Because we are in a culture of no personal responsibility at present. Illustrated perfectly by your post. What if it is a one off. People should be more responsible with alcohol. Either behave responsibly or pay. Simple as. It's not the only solution i do understand the other pressures in A&E but alcohol related admissions account for a great deal of resource that would be better used seeing genuine cases of emergency rather than instances caused by what is simply a compete lack of individual responsiblity. Why not just tax the alcohol so they get money back for it indirectly. Oh hang on....

[Gofer Blue]

NHS report shows that alcohol related incidents cost the NHS approx £2.7 BILLION pounds (includes over a million hospital admissions). Absolute madness.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol -hospital-visits.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol-hospital-visits.aspx)

[TruBlue]

NHS report shows that alcohol related incidents cost the NHS approx £2.7 BILLION pounds (includes over a million hospital admissions). Absolute madness.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11170814

[TH63]

NHS report shows that alcohol related incidents cost the NHS approx £2.7 BILLION pounds (includes over a million hospital admissions). Absolute madness.
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol -hospital-visits.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol-hospital-visits.aspx)If people considered the possible outcome of their behaviour and how that outcome could impact both on themselves and innocent bystanders, then the government could still have its £15b tax revenue and the NHS could avoid wasting £2b on people who can't or won't drink responsibly.

[TruBlue]

NHS report shows that alcohol related incidents cost the NHS approx £2.7 BILLION pounds (includes over a million hospital admissions). Absolute madness.
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol -hospital-visits.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol-hospital-visits.aspx)
No great worry, it contributes about £15 billion in tax revenues. However I think the theory you put forward is equally as bonkers. Not all alcohol related NHS costs will be because of deliberate actions of people. They could be a case of taking a fall when drunk and breaking an ankle for example. Assuming you'd still want the £15 billion tax revenue so you'd still need people drinking, how do you tell someone not to break their ankle accidentally?

[Pearcey]

Took my mum to Tewkesbury hospital at 9pm last night and she was seen immediately as an out of hours patient. Superb service. However I very much sympathise with others on here who had to wait for hours before their relative was seen. We have had plenty of similar experiences under the NHS.

There are lots of good people working in the NHS but it is often very stretched and some of the mind numbing bureaucracy doesn't help.

[TH63]

NHS report shows that alcohol related incidents cost the NHS approx £2.7 BILLION pounds (includes over a million hospital admissions). Absolute madness.
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol -hospital-visits.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Pages/nhs-stats-on-alcohol-hospital-visits.aspx)
No great worry, it contributes about £15 billion in tax revenues.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11170814 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11170814)You appeared to imply that the cost to the nhs is a necessary one in order to obtain the tax revenue. I just think, admittedly rather idealistically, that you can have one without the other.

[Mick the Miller]

Interesting to see that the Ultras on here dismiss a 1% levy on salaries to fund front line staff on NHS.
Typical right wingers , whinge but when it comes to contributions they squeal like stuck pigs. Sad drain on our planet the lot of them.

Interesting to see that the Ultras on here dismiss a 1% levy on salaries to fund front line staff on NHS. If you're going fishing you need to do better than that.

[Mick the Miller]

Interesting to see that the Ultras on here dismiss a 1% levy on salaries to fund front line staff on NHS.
Typical right wingers , whinge but when it comes to contributions they squeal like stuck pigs. Sad drain on our planet the lot of them.Do not compare me to your low standards. I am willing to pay up without squealing and believe everybody should. Trublues statement about NI contributions is laughable as he knows full well it is not targetted at all.

[TruBlue]

Interesting to see that the Ultras on here dismiss a 1% levy on salaries to fund front line staff on NHS.
Typical right wingers , whinge but when it comes to contributions they squeal like stuck pigs. Sad drain on our planet the lot of them.
If you're going fishing you need to do better than that.You took me as having a laugh about NI as squealing? F**king hell, life must be tough for you if you are that super sensitive. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

Interesting to see that the Ultras on here dismiss a 1% levy on salaries to fund front line staff on NHS.
Typical right wingers , whinge but when it comes to contributions they squeal like stuck pigs. Sad drain on our planet the lot of them.
If you're going fishing you need to do better than that.the only low standards I have involve discussing things with you. I have reprimanded myself and won't make the same mistake again.