I was wrong . forcing Tan to give up on the club has proved successful

[sidhooper7]

I honestly thought the fans groups should play a long game and try to persuade Tan to change shirt colours over time or look for a compromise of red and blue.

However I fully accept I was wrong and the fans who threatened to organise boycotts and pressurise both current and future sponsors to bail out of football completely to force Tan to give up on the club and withdraw his financial support were right. Red or dead or blue and screwed?

well tonight I realised that its great in blue , no worrying about the race to the Premiership and £100 million a year or trying to win the next generation of football supporters , we have a third of our crowd staying away so plenty of space and no queues for the bars or toilets. Only need a bucket collection to pay for the next new signing and we are back in 1990s . Steve Borley having to rescue the club again -you know its only a matter of when.

yep its great in blue!

[Vimana.]

you had me at 'I was wrong'.

I didn't read any more of your spineless guff.

[beef]

I honestly thought the fans groups should play a long game and try to persuade Tan to change shirt colours over time or look for a compromise of red and blue. Yep, you were wrong. Glad you can swallow your pride, well done. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/ayatollah.gif

[lardy]

The fall from grace since we turned to blue has been incredible. It's only been a month or so but it seems like longer. How could we go from being 15 points clear at the top of the league in red at Christmas to this so quickly?

Just changing a shirt colour has made such a difference.

[sidhooper7]

Yep the missing thousands have returned ......and wasnt it great the way the club has reunited ? Biggest party this city has ever seen coming soon apparently.
Who knows we could even get out of this division ?.. thanks to the return to blue brigade Cardiff City are the club everyone wants to be part of , 25,000 season tickets sold already, Premiership players signing pre- contracts , its a blue dream for sure!!

[The Lone Gunman]

Unlucky, Sid. You and the rest of the re-brand apologists endorsed the destruction of your club's identity and put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac simply because he has plenty of cash. You now have the club you so richly deserve.

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[Jimmy the Jock]

If only Tan had given up. Tan is pulling the strings, selecting players and tactics. Russ and the group are doing exactly as they are instructed.
He hasn't run the club very well.
He isn't a very good football manager.

Thank heavens he is a billionaire.

[the other bob wilson]

Yep the missing thousands have returned ......and wasnt it great the way the club has reunited ? Biggest party this city has ever seen coming soon apparently.Tell me, did you spend all of the years when we played in blue wishing we were playing in red?

[TH63]

The standard of football is rubbish, we're playing in blue and the glory hunters appear to have buggered off - hopefully to be gradually replaced by the boycotters
Club almost back to how it has been for most of my life.
Not perfect by a long way, but infinitely better than the red era.

[Jimmy the Jock]

The standard of football is rubbish, we're playing in blue and the glory hunters appear to have buggered off - hopefully to be gradually replaced by the boycottersI will miss Sid.

[Arfur Europe]

The standard of football is rubbish, we're playing in blue and the glory hunters appear to have buggered off - hopefully to be gradually replaced by the boycottersTis true. We are heading back from whence we came at a rapid rate of knots.

[alfie sherwood]

I beg to differ Sid.

It's just a theory I've got, but I reckon it's supine ****ers like you that have sucked the life out of the club.

As I say, nothing personal, just a theory http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[Thames Valley Bluebird]

Can't believe a spineless post like that doesn't contain the words "Tan Sri"

Lack of respect imo.

[The Lone Gunman]

"Cardiff City is a business not co-operative - all this bollocks about soul - 26,000 people turn up to watch football - 15 years ago there were 3,000 odd - the results were poor and customers took their leisure spending elsewhere - its not more complicated than that." (sidhooper7, 06/05/2013)

Seems like the results are currently poor and plenty of customers are taking their leisure spending elsewhere. It's no more complicated than that.

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[GRUMPYS DEN]

The standard of football is rubbish, we're playing in blue and the glory hunters appear to have buggered off - hopefully to be gradually replaced by the boycotters'glory hunters have buggered off'-never a truer phrase.If they leave this board that would be good too. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif

[surge]

What are our current problems? Were they there before Tan's Christmas message? It might not be enjoyable but at least we care and are not enjoying it together.

[Fatty Føggøn]

Sid's at his Crossroads. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/tong.gif
Amy Turtle RIP.

[alfie sherwood]

It's a little known fact but Vincent Tan can make rings out of the smoke that Sid Hooper blows up his arse.

[chris]

tans dream is in tatters, it wont be a question of if he will walk but when. the club played in red because he wanted it, and reached the premier league because he wanted it. but that is as far as it will go.

back in blue and heading back to a more realistic position in english football, everyones a winner. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[The Lone Gunman]

tans dream is in tatters http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[protex blue]

tans dream is in tatters
So is Sid's. He's spent the last two and half years criticising and abusing anyone who dared to question the re-brand or the lunatic who implemented it. Like most of the apologists, collaborators and quislings, I guess he's feeling a little bit foolish now that the Emperor's 'vision' has turned to shit.Made in Malaysia failed in Cardiff.

[Don Corleone]

There's a number of posters on Walesonlnie who also seem to believe this fantasy that the football has turned to sh*t because we're back in blue and it is Tan's revenge.

Slade was appointed back in September, a full 4 months before the return to blue. Not one fan thought it was a good appointment at the time and I'm sure most realised this was the end of Tan's spending and the start of cutbacks

Yet there's muppets on there saying - see you've got the football you deserve for wanting blue back. I despair at some people, I really do

[The Lone Gunman]

Yet there's muppets on there saying - see you've got the football you deserve for wanting blue back. I despair at some people, I really do http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!

[surge]

There's a number of posters on Walesonlnie who also seem to believe this fantasy that the football has turned to sh*t because we're back in blue and it is Tan's revenge.The only colour some are interested in is green, even if it is taking us further away from being in the black.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

**** the red and **** off sid you tart

[binman]

Don't panic Sid I've heard (LeAdER) on the grape vine (but keep it quiet) that Tan has got RUPERT MURDOCH!! interested in buying us out and he's going to borrow quazillions against the club to get us into the 'promised land'. As a proud and honourable Aussie we are of course having to change the home colour to yellow this time but I, like you, don't care cos I get to see great players like Wayne Rooney and Kevin Nolan once a year and we get the last game slot on Match of the Day where Alan Shearer gets to say really interesting stuff about us.

Its what I've always dreamed of.

Yellow or Dead

[sidhooper7]

So many intelligent replies ...........and not one can answer the simple question of where the "thousands of fans who will return when we change to blue" were against Fulham . What was it 200 more turned up compared to the home league game before??

Oh and remind me - when is the "biggest party this city has ever seen" (c) Cardiff City Fans Trust due to start??
Strangely no one can answer that ??

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces you might have an answer - come on keep the rest of us amused and do the best you can?

I'll still be going to support my club red or blue and Division 3 or 4 .....unlike some .....but no doubt they will come crawling back hoping no-one notices them skulking back in. But then again they aren't that bright.

[saganspirit]

So many intelligent replies ...........and not one can answer the simple question of where the "thousands of fans who will return when we change to blue" were against Fulham . What was it 200 more turned up compared to the home league game before??Skulking back in to support the club in the bottom 2 divisions - what utter bastards...

[lardy]

So many intelligent replies ...........and not one can answer the simple question of where the "thousands of fans who will return when we change to blue" were against Fulham . What was it 200 more turned up compared to the home league game before?? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=402806 &goto=4404753&rid=6993#msg_4404753 (http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=402806&goto=4404753&rid=6993#msg_4404753)

[the other bob wilson]

So many intelligent replies ...........and not one can answer the simple question of where the "thousands of fans who will return when we change to blue" were against Fulham . What was it 200 more turned up compared to the home league game before??The announced figure for the Fulham game was significantly closer to the actual figure than the one which was announced for the Watford game - anyone with half a brain who was at the two games could see that.

[ninian200]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/bow.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/ayatollah.gif

[ninian200]

So many intelligent replies ...........and not one can answer the simple question of where the "thousands of fans who will return when we change to blue" were against Fulham . What was it 200 more turned up compared to the home league game before??I wouldn't worry Sid Liverpool will welcome you back with open arms as you have only been unfaithful to them for a couple of seasons.You can even keep wearing your lovely red Cardiff shirt as you swoon over Rooney and Stevie G again.

[ken smith]

Sid has got to be dr dre.
You took great pleasure in people not being happy with red when you loved it. Are you expecting some sympathy now?

Also, why does working to a budget and cost cutting mean we have to have shit tactics though?

[goats]

Yep the missing thousands have returned ......and wasnt it great the way the club has reunited ? Biggest party this city has ever seen coming soon apparently.Habits are easily lost it would seem. Let's face it we were always on the cusp of going under for years anyway, then we had the rebrand, then our glorious season in the sun so to speak. The owner still hasn't made us debt free. I am amazed we have any fans left to be honest. People like you who supported the destruction from the outset might one day start to think but I doubt it.

[Jimmy the Jock]

So many intelligent replies ...........and not one can answer the simple question of where the "thousands of fans who will return when we change to blue" were against Fulham . What was it 200 more turned up compared to the home league game before??
Oh and remind me - when is the "biggest party this city has ever seen" (c) Cardiff City Fans Trust due to start??That was kept quiet Roger?

[The Lone Gunman]

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines.

[Thames Valley Bluebird]

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[TH63]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!That must've been the game I missed because I was holiday

[Thames Valley Bluebird]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!
That must've been the game I missed because I was holidayMe too! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

[TH63]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!
That must've been the game I missed because I was holiday
You missed the promotion season and the season in the premier league? As for the prem, from memory we had one great (fluke) performance against Citeh, followed by months of dross.

[saganspirit]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!
That must've been the game I missed because I was holiday
You missed the promotion season and the season in the premier league?
Me too! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Quite a few seem to be writing off the Championship-winning season as an average season or worse. Admittedly the off field stuff took the gloss off it but it's still a very good achievement to win a tough division. Oh and beating Wolves, Leeds (yet again) and the wurzels was pretty good to me.

[lardy]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!
That must've been the game I missed because I was holiday
You missed the promotion season and the season in the premier league?
Me too! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Didn't think we were that good in the promotion season tbh, successful yes, but "good" is a bit of a stretch.http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif It's amazing how fans of a club that has only ever won a division three times in nearly a century are so quickly blase about it!

[TH63]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!
That must've been the game I missed because I was holiday
You missed the promotion season and the season in the premier league?
Me too! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Didn't think we were that good in the promotion season tbh, successful yes, but "good" is a bit of a stretch.Ok, maybe the off-field nonsense may have clouded my judgement somewhat, but for me, after 40 odd years of waiting, it was the biggest anti-climax of my life (ok, I was on the other side of the world when we actually clinched promotion) but still, it was pretty turgid stuff.

[saganspirit]

I'm honestly preferring being sh1t in blue than good in red can't believe people would actually want to swap back for a bit of success!
That must've been the game I missed because I was holiday
You missed the promotion season and the season in the premier league?
Me too! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Didn't think we were that good in the promotion season tbh, successful yes, but "good" is a bit of a stretch.
As for the prem, from memory we had one great (fluke) performance against Citeh, followed by months of dross.Undoubtedly (myself included). However, I did enjoy the wins mentioned above. It was after the Charlton away debacle that Mackay suddenly realised that he had to tighten up the team as his mandate was probably promotion or the boot. We ground our way to that title but I didn't renew that summer because I had a feeling what the Premiershit experience would be like.

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact...absolutely miserable, damaged goods, soulless tools. It's no wonder you didn't go along with the soul selling, as it looks unlikely you had a decent one to sell in the first place. The only joy I see some people expressing on this message board is the snidey, arseholy joy revelling in the fact that things ain't great at the moment. Sad really.

[The Lone Gunman]

Did I touch a nerve?

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[surge]

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact.
Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines. Sid isn't getting slated because he wants a bit of success but because of what he's (still!) happy to give up to get it. He also suggests that blue is linked to cost cutting which is the cause of our problems - that's not true in any sense but it's the sort of thinking that had Gwyn saying we should greet Tan wearing special valentines day lingerie...or whatever. Success means nothing if you've given up on yourself completely.

[Baloo]

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact.
Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines. Terrific. Wonder what other dramas the club can conjure up to keep you entertained. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact.
Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines. The rebrand was terrible, it was the darkest spell in the club's history and can now be viewed as a complete failure. You backed it and now it has fallen flat on its face. Stop criticising people who could see the wood from the trees.

[ninian200]

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact.
Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines.
It was always shitty though, constant failure, we're just back we were and there is little wrong with that either. I don't know about Sid, but I rather enjoyed the promotion season, the premiership misadventure, especially the Man City and Liverpool games.. Good times!! Loved the drama of the re-brand and subsequent de-brand. You missed all that. Hard lines.Its like being lectured by someone who used to smoke http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact.
Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines.
It was always shitty though, constant failure, we're just back we were and there is little wrong with that either. I don't know about Sid, but I rather enjoyed the promotion season, the premiership misadventure, especially the Man City and Liverpool games.. Good times!! Loved the drama of the re-brand and subsequent de-brand. You missed all that. Hard lines.I'm not criticising anyone for their stance, I'm criticising people for being miserable. I love all us pobols and want us to be happy. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif

[Baloo]

Perhaps when the brains trust mob have finished wiping the egg off collective faces......
I'd say the people that need to wipe egg off their faces are those who gave their unconditional backing to Emperor Tan and his ridiculous re-brand. People like you, in fact.
Face it, Sid - you backed the wrong horse. You put your faith in a clueless Malaysian megalomaniac while criticising and abusing those who could see him for what he is, and your decision has come back to bite you on the arse. Big, red chickens have come home to roost. You've got the club you so richly deserve and its a really shitty one. Hard lines.
It was always shitty though, constant failure, we're just back we were and there is little wrong with that either. I don't know about Sid, but I rather enjoyed the promotion season, the premiership misadventure, especially the Man City and Liverpool games.. Good times!! Loved the drama of the re-brand and subsequent de-brand. You missed all that. Hard lines.
All this talk of biting on the arse and big red chickens.. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Thinly veiled "I was just pulling your leg all along lads" post imo.

[sidhooper7]

Well done Bob - distancing yourself from the Trust Board member who boasted on tv that the return to blue would bring "the biggest party this city has ever seen" it was deluded drivel so good for you for pretending to know nothing about it and dismissing it for what we all knew it was.
Reassuring to know that thousands who paid to see Watford weren,t actually there Bob as you say- season ticket holders staying away because of the red of course. As expected these disillusioned thousands returned when the blue returned just as the Trust predicted. Sounds a good theory Bob so yes I will concede that point....... but it means that only 200 non season ticket holders attended the great Fulham return to blue event ??
So all the bollocks about how many thousands would race back to see the City in blue and its just 200 more turned up and paid to go in?
And the 5,000 or so that were boycotting the Watford game because of the red are by your reckoning now boycotting again because they got what they wanted but then decided they wanted to see red again or that they think the club is totally screwed and in freefall since the blue mob forced Tan to pull the plug?

[sidhooper7]

As I am not as bright as the intellectual giants in the earlier posts perhaps the Trust and co can help with this question?..

2014-15 season and 18,000 bought season tickets to see a Cardiff City in red compete in the Championship

If all the blue mob are right and fans will come flooding back now we are in blue then in 2015-16 how many season tickets will be sold to watch Cardiff City in blue competing in the Championship?

Will the number of season tickets sold exceed the number of excuses given for a huge drop in sales?

[chris]

As I am not as bright as the intellectual giants in the earlier posts perhaps the Trust and co can help with this question?..the only way fans of any club return is with a modicum of success but they are not hardcore fans, tans tenure as owner, will always be the divisive element among the fanbase after the rebrand fiasco. until a new owner, team, and manager are found, things wont change anytime soon. going back to blue is no good if the same lunatic is in charge of the asylum, a clean sweep will be needed .

[TH63]

Sid seems to be forgetting that for the last few seasons we have had artificially high season ticket numbers due to the price freeze.
A number of people walked away, I suspect that more would've joined them had our season in the sun not been just around the corner.

It's great that we're back in our proper colours, But the premier league glory hunters won't be back until we're back in the prem, if ever. Walk up fans aren't walking up at the moment because we are playing shot, as we were when we were still red.

That's all it is, nothing more complex than that IMHO.

[Baloo]

Sid seems to be forgetting that for the last few seasons we have had artificially high season ticket numbers due to the price freeze.Sid's just trying to deflect from his embarrassing backing of Tan's deluded strategy by blaming the fans.

[lardy]

Sid seems to be forgetting that for the last few seasons we have had artificially high season ticket numbers due to the price freeze.
A number of people walked away, I suspect that more would've joined them had our season in the sun not been just around the corner.He's got a couple of quotes made about two months ago and that's it.

[beef]

As I am not as bright as the intellectual giants in the earlier posts perhaps the Trust and co can help with this question?..Weren't we in the Prem when they bought STs? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif

[Jimmy the Jock]

Well done Bob - distancing yourself from the Trust Board member who boasted on tv that the return to blue would bring "the biggest party this city has ever seen" it was deluded drivel so good for you for pretending to know nothing about it and dismissing it for what we all knew it was.Either a drink or drugs problem here. Lets leave Sid sobbing in his free red scarf. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[sidhooper7]

A jock talking about someone else having a drink problem??
Anyway - mines a bitter if you're buying - but not quite as bitter as The Lone Gunman - he reckons its all YOUR fault we are in freefall. You fans have got the club you deserve............strange how he agrees with me - thats exactly what I am saying!!

The fans poll in the Echo just published makes it clear - everyone thinks the club is going backwards proving the return to blue has been a disaster for Cardiff City - no matter the Fans Trust and their fellow travellers are all in hiding!!

[Barry Shitpeas]

Look who's back from the pub talking shite again http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

[lardy]

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif imagine hating the return to blue...

[sidhooper7]

Ah I see - you are back from the pub - OK heres the bit you missed at the start of the thread:-
"I honestly thought the fans groups should play a long game and try to persuade Tan to change shirt colours over time or look for a compromise of red and blue."

The "lets force Tan to implement "red or dead" for me was always a doomed and clueless strategy - the fans groups had no plan - just deluded drivel about thousands of fans coming back to the club - all looking like bullshit foolishness just weeks later.
But carry on with the excuses and self justification - as if that will stop the current freefall!

[lardy]

How was Tan forced, sid?

[saganspirit]

Ah I see - you are back from the pub - OK heres the bit you missed at the start of the thread:-Please explain if you're not too pissed.

[the other bob wilson]

A jock talking about someone else having a drink problem??2. If Vincent Tan has been forced into a red or dead policy, why did he allow Russell Slade to spend around £1 million on new players last month?

[ninian200]

A jock talking about someone else having a drink problem??Sid are you and your red "pals" going to hold up your red scarves on 2012 every game to try and get your true colours back.It worked for us blues http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/ayatollah.gif

[The Lone Gunman]

If all the blue mob are right...... http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

[The Lone Gunman]

A jock talking about someone else having a drink problem?? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[TH63]

How was Tan forced, sid?Cos his mum threatened to take his play station away and send him to bed, keep up FFs

[Jimmy the Jock]

Ah I see - you are back from the pub - OK heres the bit you missed at the start of the thread:-It is only a colour FFS , http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif