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What an absolute jeffing pony
Have you seen the video where he asks Gordon Brown what he's so afraid of regarding his reluctance to debate?
I have not
Someone should play it to him during his next interview before he gets the chance to walk off
He can not debate all he can do is read what his spin doctors have put down.He is a first class wonker http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
He can not debate all he can do is read what his spin doctors have put down.He is a first class wonker http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif Spot on Jeepster, Cameron is a shithouse.
Good name for a band mind
saganspirit
05-03-15, 22:03
Good name for a band mind http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Taunton Blue Genie
05-03-15, 22:08
Good name for a band mind
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif and the Mass Debaters perhaps
Good name for a band mind
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and the Mass Debaters perhapsCome on TBG - give Truthpaste and his clan a break! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Taunton Blue Genie
05-03-15, 22:32
Good name for a band mind
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and the Mass Debaters perhaps
Come on TBG - give Truthpaste and his clan a break! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif If you hadn't noticed I am refraining from posting messages about religious topics. If I can do the same on a few other pet subjects I am associated with I could get on with real life http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif
Loya Jirga
05-03-15, 23:51
What an absolute jeffing ponyHe is hoping this dies a death, but with so many parties now involved (at the request of Cameron who now calls the thing chaotic) I think this will get trotted out quite a bit. The odd thing is, Cameron would give Miliband a drubbing in a head to head.
Dr Tim Muff
06-03-15, 00:03
What an absolute jeffing pony
Labour have Ed Balls, the Tories have no balls.Whatever the reason, call me Dave is undoubtedly looking like a bit of a wuss right now. Odd tactics http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I thought the last bunch of TV debates were a farce of pre planned sound bites by highly trained political androids. Bunch of ****s trying to act as though they were down to earth. The matra of I agree with Dick (sic) said it all.
That said Cameron is proved a hypocrite when his comments before the last election are replayed or requoted.
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
What an absolute jeffing pony
Labour have Ed Balls, the Tories have no balls.I'm no fan of new Labour or Ed but despise the political right wing elite who don't stand for the ordinary working person , just conserve for themselves and their like
Elwood Blues
06-03-15, 01:52
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Mick the Miller
06-03-15, 05:48
Where are the Tory boys on this . They have only seemed to have dragged Elwood out of retirement to pathetically argue the case for Cameron the Yellow .
Welcome back Elwood , getting ready to spout lies on behalf of your beloved Tories during the election campaign are you ?
At least you covered your nonsense by being slightly polite.
Taunton Blue Genie
06-03-15, 07:57
I am not sure if TV debates change the way that most people vote but squirming to get out of such debates doesn't reflect well on Cameron. It's quite possible that he loses more votes by not debating than he may have done were he to fully participate.
Elwood Blues
06-03-15, 08:39
Where are the Tory boys on this . They have only seemed to have dragged Elwood out of retirement to pathetically argue the case for Cameron the Yellow .All this suppose integrity is mainly political opportunism.
GRUMPYS DEN
06-03-15, 10:02
Precisely.
Mick the Miller
06-03-15, 13:50
I agree with you Elwood on Blair's New Labour.
But Milliband at least offers some hope for socialists. Not enough yet but some.
Cameron knows this and has scuttled off back under his slimy rock
As have the usual Tory boys on this board.
I have notForgive the source, http://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/in-2008-david-cameron-att acked-labour-for-avoiding-leaders-d (http://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/in-2008-david-cameron-attacked-labour-for-avoiding-leaders-d)
I agree with you Elwood on Blair's New Labour. I think Milliband has to play it very middle ground in opposition however, if he did get in, I think it might be a different story.
Looks like the broadcasters have called Cameron's bluff and go ahead with all 3 debates.
Interesting.........
linky
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31771198
linkyCameron looks like a right wally now whether he joins the debates or not, well played Dave
What are the odds that they all shoot themselves in the foot and, by being cowardly, Cameron walks away the winner?
If any Labour or Tory comes knocking my door prior to the election,i will personaly empty my chamber pot over their heads from a great height.
the other bob wilson
07-03-15, 07:20
True to form for an arrogant, short tempered man who constantly talks down to us plebs. I know he hasn't really got much competition, but Cameron's high ranking in the best leader polls amazes me, he's a political pygmy who deserves to have this issue blow up in his face.
SLUDGE FACTORY
07-03-15, 09:45
I think Cameron is a shithouse bottling ****
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.Why do you say that? Would you like to expand?
Loya Jirga
07-03-15, 09:58
linky
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31771198 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31771198)This is almost a similar situation to the General Election that Brown should have called, was going to call, but didn't call. The top of the slippery slope is when a leader obviously lacks leadership - and Cameron has Ed Balls'd up big time.
Loya Jirga
07-03-15, 09:59
True to form for an arrogant, short tempered man who constantly talks down to us plebs. I know he hasn't really got much competition, but Cameron's high ranking in the best leader polls amazes me, he's a political pygmy who deserves to have this issue blow up in his face. I'll be honest, I've always had a bit of a grudging respect for Cameron - but he looks as listless as Brown these days.
True to form for an arrogant, short tempered man who constantly talks down to us plebs. I know he hasn't really got much competition, but Cameron's high ranking in the best leader polls amazes me, he's a political pygmy who deserves to have this issue blow up in his face. I hear what you're saying Bob, but I'm not going to respond and instead will repeat "long term blah blah blah....bacon sandwich"
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics.
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .You've obviously tested and researched everything around those grass route MP's in the few minutes, or does your reply have a point ?
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/facepalm.gif
I think that the pitiful thing about contemporary politics is that so few politicians have experience of life outside the political system. Politicians from all parties used to have high degrees of integrity on the whole. Of course there were some crooks and shysters but they generally seemed to be in it to try, however misguidedly, to make a genuine difference.
Cameron rests comfortably on the notion that Milipede is not seen as much of a debater , and a bit of a wally, by the British Public .
The problem is, Miliband has usually performed a bit better than people expect him to in major speeches or in debates etc.
Oily Dave and his oiks cannot afford to have the public thinking that maybe that Ed is not that bad after all - nor for it to become the talking point.
In other words, Cameron and his team know that they are merely a poor choice over a supposedly poorer choice.
Oily Dave has made a pigs ear of this. True to form.
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics.
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Thanks you have just realised the error of you ways, your now up there with Vincent Tan in the U turn stakes.
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics.
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http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Like a good game of rugger bugger http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Taunton Blue Genie
07-03-15, 10:55
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics. A road less travelled?
Indeed, may as well laugh it off http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif - its not like you can deny it is it? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics.
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif The Ethnic route http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics. He's pointing out that you've spelt something incorrectly and, judging by the number of smileys, either finding it the funniest thing ever or using it to feel superior rather than responding to what you've actually said.
I don't think that Miliband has much charisma but he has far more integrity than Cameron and I don't think the electorate are as naive about these things as some people seem to think.
If you really think Miliband has more integrity you are pretty naive yourself.
Agree most politicians have agendas, however having to choose between a rich Tory one whose choice of appointments / friends many now sacked or nearly jailed is appalling and question strongly his integrity
Miliband may not be perfect but would be my choice out of the two .
The best way to test this , take 20 ordinary grass routes MP's across the parties ,no big names, examine their integrity and connections, then make up you mind based on who best reflects your views and ethnics.
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You've obviously tested and researched everything around those grass route MP's in the few minutes, or does your reply have a point ?Your detailed response which was http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/facepalm.gif was a realisation of my MP point, and I am glad as with Vincent Tan you have moved to another political colour , in this case for Blue to Red welcome brother socialist
Jimmy Jimmy
07-03-15, 11:45
Interesting article in the guardian from Alistair Campbell who said that Cameron was running scared of Milliband - then when asked admitted that he had also advised Blair not to debate either.
Two leaders within 5% of each other - why should Cameron give him a free shot ?
Milliband would do the same.
My own personal opinion - Milliband is likely to do more damage to himself in a debate without anyone else being present.
A Labour and SNP minority Govt would be interesting and would last last till about Nov.
A Tory / Lib Dem again coalition - may last a bit longer. But Lib Dems will be wiped out - the SNP will be the 3rd party that no one wants to deal with.
We'll have another general election by Nov I think , when people will revert to the usual labour or conservative , with a few other parties taking up the slack.
Jimmy Jimmy
07-03-15, 11:52
Democracy in action Bob - just because we dont like the outcome.
I cant stand the thought of alex salmond and his 50 SNP MPs having control opver who is in Govt - as they will purposely wreck parliament with a wry smile on his face.
I's play hardball run as a minority government on a vote by vote basis,and then blame any failure on policy on the other parties ,that would be fun and you could be canny by introducing bills that would be hard to vote against
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