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Colonel Cærdiffi
30-05-15, 22:12
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"For me, to watch Messi play is a pleasure it's like having an orgasm it's an incredible pleasure." - Luis Figo
"I wear the number 10 Jersey for the US National Team in honour of the Greatest athlete I have ever seen: Messi." - Kobe Bryant
"The other day I saw one of his games. He was running with the ball at a hundred percent full speed, I don't know how many touches he took in a second, maybe five or six, but the ball was glued to his foot. It's practically impossible." - Real Madrid legend Raul
"Once they said they can only stop me with a pistol. Today you need a machine gun to stop Messi." - Hristo Stoichkov
"At this point I'm starting to believe that Messi is tightly related to Clark Kent." - Israeli model Bar Rafaeli
"Messi or Ronaldo best player in the world? From this world, I would say Ronaldo. Messi is from another planet." - Turkish international Arda Turan
"They tell me that all men are equal in God's eyes, this player makes you seriously think about those words." - Football commentator Ray Hudson
"For the world of football, Messi is a treasure because he is role model for children around the world... Messi will be the player to win the most Ballons d'Or in history. He will win five, six, seven. He is incomparable. He's in a different league." - Johan Cruyff
"If he is so good, how can you express that? The superlatives ran out ages ago. On these pages, swearing has been tried. Or perhaps a symbol, something to signify that we have gone beyond words now." - Football writer Sid Lowe
"Messi is grand. He is grand. There is no other way to describe him." - Steve Nash
"Messi does not need his right foot. He only uses the left and he's still the best in the world. Imagine if he also used his right foot, Then we would have serious problems." - Zlatan Ibrahimovic
"Is this where I mention Ronaldo?" - Baker. And Ronaldo.
Spooky Tree
30-05-15, 22:28
He is from another planet.
the best player the world has ever seen in any lifetime
Mabinogion
30-05-15, 23:03
'Yes but what do you want from me? If I talk to you for a few minutes, then I'm helping you pay your mortgage and what am I getting in return? Do you know what I mean?' - Phil Neal
Colonel Cærdiffi
30-05-15, 23:07
'Yes but what do you want from me? If I talk to you for a few minutes, then I'm helping you pay your mortgage and what am I getting in return? Do you know what I mean?' - Phil Neal http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Colonel Cærdiffi
30-05-15, 23:29
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EdinburghBlue
30-05-15, 23:36
Still hasn't turned up at a world cup though. Can't believe some posters saying he's the best there's been. Maradona carried an average Napoli team and an average Argentinian team to glory. Messi was non existent against Germany in the last WC final.
saganspirit
30-05-15, 23:41
I would still put Maradona slightly ahead of him - he played in an era of clattering challenges (Gentile, Goicochea et al). Also, he led unfancied Napoli (Signori was the only other notable player) to the Scudetto. The World Cup has already been mentioned above.
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Still hasn't turned up at a world cup though. Can't believe some posters saying he's the best there's been. Maradona carried an average Napoli team and an average Argentinian team to glory. Messi was non existent against Germany in the last WC final.It's pretty obvious why some think messi is the greatest ever. I can't believe you're saying you can't believe anyone might think that. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif it's not that ridiculous.
EdinburghBlue
31-05-15, 07:46
Still hasn't turned up at a world cup though. Can't believe some posters saying he's the best there's been. Maradona carried an average Napoli team and an average Argentinian team to glory. Messi was non existent against Germany in the last WC final.
The problem with this argument is that Argentina could have lost in 86 and won in 14 - would that make messi the best? I never judged him on 1 game. You've made that up in your head http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif . He's failed to produce the goods in a couple of world cups. If you can't turn it on on the biggest stage, then you can't possibly be considered as the best ever. George Best never had the chance to play on the biggest stage. Messi has twice, and blown it twice. He is without doubt the best club player of his era, but imo, nowhere near the best ever.
Still hasn't turned up at a world cup though. Can't believe some posters saying he's the best there's been. Maradona carried an average Napoli team and an average Argentinian team to glory. Messi was non existent against Germany in the last WC final.
The problem with this argument is that Argentina could have lost in 86 and won in 14 - would that make messi the best?
They are regarded as great because of their whole careers, not just in one game (no matter how massive that one is). I'm a big Maradona fan, possibly still have him higher, but it's not true to say messi hasn't turned up at a wc. He was third highest goalscorer at the last one.I'm not old enough to have seen either best or maradonna or many others, but from what I've seen, Messi is the best player in the best team in the world. doesnt make you the best of all time. My dad reckons Best or van basten were best of all time. Both careers burnt out pretty early so perhaps they weren't around long enough to be considered.
Still hasn't turned up at a world cup though. Can't believe some posters saying he's the best there's been. Maradona carried an average Napoli team and an average Argentinian team to glory. Messi was non existent against Germany in the last WC final.
The problem with this argument is that Argentina could have lost in 86 and won in 14 - would that make messi the best?
They are regarded as great because of their whole careers, not just in one game (no matter how massive that one is). I'm a big Maradona fan, possibly still have him higher, but it's not true to say messi hasn't turned up at a wc. He was third highest goalscorer at the last one.Nowhere near? Really?
The Penguin
31-05-15, 09:10
Every player in the world would enjoy seeing that, except Ronaldo.
Get some Ronnie Boy.
EdinburghBlue
31-05-15, 09:15
Still hasn't turned up at a world cup though. Can't believe some posters saying he's the best there's been. Maradona carried an average Napoli team and an average Argentinian team to glory. Messi was non existent against Germany in the last WC final.
The problem with this argument is that Argentina could have lost in 86 and won in 14 - would that make messi the best?
They are regarded as great because of their whole careers, not just in one game (no matter how massive that one is). I'm a big Maradona fan, possibly still have him higher, but it's not true to say messi hasn't turned up at a wc. He was third highest goalscorer at the last one.
It's pretty obvious why some think messi is the greatest ever. I can't believe you're saying you can't believe anyone might think that. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif it's not that ridiculous. Correct. You appear to be struggling with that. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.
Not only was he the greatest ever player to grace a football pitch, but he played in an era when sillful players were kicked from pillar to post with no protection from referee's at all.
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.Haven't heard of him. Will check him out on youtube.
The Penguin
31-05-15, 09:31
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/legacy.php?t=getfile&id=8027&private=0http://www.ccmb.co.uk/legacy.php?t=getfile&id=8027&private=0Maradona genuinely rates Messi as better than him so I will take his word for it I think. Pele third by a distance - and let's remember he played in an era where Brazil won everything with their best ever era and never played outside Brazil or that hot bed of football in the 70s the U.S. of A.
Optimistic Nick
31-05-15, 09:37
Ahh, great stuff. Messi is the new Delaney.
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/legacy.php?t=getfile&id=8027&private=0http://www.ccmb.co.uk/legacy.php?t=getfile&id=8027&private=0Maradona genuinely rates Messi as better than him so I will take his word for it I think. Pele third by a distance - and let's remember he played in an era where Brazil won everything with their best ever era and never played outside Brazil or that hot bed of football in the 70s the U.S. of A.Hers's a couple, plus the one that knocked us (Wales) out of the 1958 World Cup.
Mario Miethig
31-05-15, 10:14
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.Best player I've seen in my lifetime is Maradona, as others have mentioned, he took average teams to glory and had to put up with real hatchet men. Have a look at footage of Italy v Argentina in 82, Gentile was all over him like a rash, you don't get players like that anymore thankfully.
Sloop_Jon_Bee
31-05-15, 10:47
the best player the world has ever seen in any lifetimeSpedger
Gwynedd Blue
31-05-15, 10:56
Absolutely amazing, but the nutmeg apart, was this goal better than Giggsy's??
Absolutely amazing, but the nutmeg apart, was this goal better than Giggsy's??I was wondering if those defenders had ever played football before. Shocking technique.
But would he pass to Bale ?
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.
Not only was he the greatest ever player to grace a football pitch, but he played in an era when sillful players were kicked from pillar to post with no protection from referee's at all. Wonderful example to kids, NOT.
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.
Not only was he the greatest ever player to grace a football pitch, but he played in an era when sillful players were kicked from pillar to post with no protection from referee's at all.
Was reading somewhere that most Brazilians consider Garrincha to have been better than Pele.Thats obviously not what he said but I do like to watch his goal vs England and then threaten journalists with a gun. Do you pop viagra when you watch Mexico 70?
Mario Miethig
31-05-15, 13:40
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.
Not only was he the greatest ever player to grace a football pitch, but he played in an era when sillful players were kicked from pillar to post with no protection from referee's at all.
Was reading somewhere that most Brazilians consider Garrincha to have been better than Pele.I also said best I've seen. I wasn't around for Sweden 58 and was one during Mexico 70, so am not really in a position to judge how good Pele was, nor George Best come to that.
Reminds me of Craig No one.
Gwynedd Blue
31-05-15, 19:22
Obviously none of you ever seen Pele play.
Not only was he the greatest ever player to grace a football pitch, but he played in an era when sillful players were kicked from pillar to post with no protection from referee's at all.
Was reading somewhere that most Brazilians consider Garrincha to have been better than Pele.In the same way that Wagner's anti-semitism made no difference to his qualities as a composer.
Best ever. Nobody else would score that goal or even think to try it.
BlueArmy 86
31-05-15, 19:58
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif Maradona was playing against players who smoked 40 fags a day. I don't think you can really compare, but don't think any player from history could do what messi is doing.
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memoriesit depends what era you were born, and what you have seen before. dont forget as previously mentioned messi plays in an era where he would not be playing in 2inches of mud every week, or been kicked up in the air every 5mins he is a fantastic player no doubt about that. but the true greats do it on the world stage as well, and up to now that as not happened. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
purple haze2
01-06-15, 01:20
Messi was inspired by Maradonna.
Maradonna was inspired by Rivelino.
To say Messi is better than those two, or the likes of Pele, Garrincha, El Phenomena Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Eusebio is impossible to say.
However, Messi is an absolutely incredible player, sublime balance, turn of pace, unpredictability, technical skill and plays for the sheer enjoyment of playing.
ok then depending on your age, i will give you just a few names off the top of my head that many people will say they were the greatest they have seen,You know that messi has done more on the 'world stage' than most of them, right? Only three of them have won the world cup which rather undermines the argument that you need to win it (which is what I assume do it on the world stage means) to be a true great.
what i am saying is you will never get a general concensus that messi his the greatest player of all time. at present many people will say he is because many wont have seen great players from beyond say 30 years ago. at the end of the day its a matter of opinion.
would messi have been able to play on far worse pitches or adapt to ruthless man marking, fierce tackling etc, which barely exists nowadays ? its a different game now, compared to the sixties and seventies and beyond.
as previously said maradona did it both in the world cup with an average argentinian side and won the trophy virtually single handedly. and won the league with napoli, who were nobodies at the time.
messi is playing for barcelona in a team full of world class players. put him in a team with average players around him, and lets see if he can still do it. but its all hypothetical because it wont happen. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memoriesI think that is the point. Maradona did do it, whilst also smoking 40 fags a day. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif
what i am saying is you will never get a general concensus that messi his the greatest player of all time. at present many people will say he is because many wont have seen great players from beyond say 30 years ago. at the end of the day its a matter of opinion.As to whether he could do it in the old days, his speed of dribbling would be slower because of footwear, pitch quality, etc. But he'd be one of the best in the world in any decade, as would maradona et al.
Jimmy the Jock
01-06-15, 09:22
Almost as good as Archie Gemmills goal against Holland in 1978.
When men were men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1axsnMRbbo
The Penguin
01-06-15, 10:33
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memories
if someone doesn't put messi in their too 5 then I'm sorry but they haven't got a clue about football.I'd love to hear the argument that puts him ahead of them five.
BlueArmy 86
01-06-15, 10:58
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memories
if someone doesn't put messi in their too 5 then I'm sorry but they haven't got a clue about football.I know Messi has always played for Barcelona, but then again he's still only 27. God knows what his record will be like when he retires.
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memories
if someone doesn't put messi in their too 5 then I'm sorry but they haven't got a clue about football.
Bit unfair on these "old men", after all they'll have seen all these great players from previous eras to compare, unlike yourself. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/wink.gif Seems your stats fall down at the first hurdle, you young whippersnapper. Don't feel bad about it, it's because you haven't seen players from previous eras like the oldies to appreciate them, there was no FIFA 15 then to tell them who was good and who wasn't. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif
AfricanBluebird
01-06-15, 11:35
He is certainly up there with Leo Fortune-West for sure.
Just imagine that partnership... Leo and Messi up front.WOW
Jimmy the Jock
01-06-15, 12:21
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memories
if someone doesn't put messi in their too 5 then I'm sorry but they haven't got a clue about football.
Bit unfair on these "old men", after all they'll have seen all these great players from previous eras to compare, unlike yourself. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/wink.gif
I think I may have hit a nerve http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/old.gif You counting the goals he scored at school as well?
BlueArmy 86
01-06-15, 13:00
messi is certainly the best player in the current era, but to say he is the best of all time, is a different kettle of fish altogether. many people would not even put him in their top 5 of all time. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
WOW - only people who don't put messi in their top 5 are old men, out of touch with football hanging on to past memories
if someone doesn't put messi in their too 5 then I'm sorry but they haven't got a clue about football.
Bit unfair on these "old men", after all they'll have seen all these great players from previous eras to compare, unlike yourself. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/wink.gif
I think I may have hit a nerve http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/old.gif
Quote:I think he's counting the goals scored on sensible soccer!
what i am saying is you will never get a general concensus that messi his the greatest player of all time. at present many people will say he is because many wont have seen great players from beyond say 30 years ago. at the end of the day its a matter of opinion.
would messi have been able to play on far worse pitches or adapt to ruthless man marking, fierce tackling etc, which barely exists nowadays ? its a different game now, compared to the sixties and seventies and beyond. 5 baresi
Chris, you said the true greats do it on the world stage and messi hasn't yet. Now you're putting him fourth of all time.
Chris, you said the true greats do it on the world stage and messi hasn't yet. Now you're putting him fourth of all time.messi his fourth simply because he still as time in front of him to do it on the world stage, if he was at the end of his career, he would not be fourth mate. time will tell. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Colonel Cærdiffi
01-06-15, 13:21
Nice fresh new page.
Nice fresh new page.I think this is the best new page of all time.
Chris, you said the true greats do it on the world stage and messi hasn't yet. Now you're putting him fourth of all time.
messi his fourth simply because he still as time in front of him to do it on the world stage, if he was at the end of his career, he would not be fourth mate. time will tell. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif Oh I see, it's based on things he hasn't done.
Chris, you said the true greats do it on the world stage and messi hasn't yet. Now you're putting him fourth of all time.
messi his fourth simply because he still as time in front of him to do it on the world stage, if he was at the end of his career, he would not be fourth mate. time will tell. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Oh I see, it's based on things he hasn't done.its based on the fact that he is a tremendous player, and that a world cup is within his grasp. this is a top 5 by the way. in my opinion what messi can do with a ball, maradona could do with a ping pong ball or an orange, he aint in the same bracket mate. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Chris, you said the true greats do it on the world stage and messi hasn't yet. Now you're putting him fourth of all time.
messi his fourth simply because he still as time in front of him to do it on the world stage, if he was at the end of his career, he would not be fourth mate. time will tell. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Oh I see, it's based on things he hasn't done.
its based on the fact that he is a tremendous player, and that a world cup is within his grasp. this is a top 5 by the way. in my opinion what messi can do with a ball, maradona could do with a ping pong ball or an orange, he aint in the same bracket mate. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif Maybe messi will do it with an orange one day. It's within his grasp http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
BlueArmy 86
01-06-15, 13:57
Quotes from top players and managers in football:
"Messi is the best player ever. And this is said by someone who has seen Maradona and Pele play." - AC Milan chief Adriano Galliani
"Who is the Best Player in the World? Leo Messi. Who is the Best Player Ever? Leo Messi." - Arsene Wenger
"Fella's a genius. Best ever by a distance in my life time. Never really saw Pele... Souness, Gullit, Venables and now Rooney agree Messi is the best they have seen. He plays a game with which we are not familiar." - Gary Lineker
"Messi is better than Maradona; he is more complete, more consistent, more spectacular. He is reinventing the game a mix of the real and the virtual." - Tostão
"For me, to watch Messi play is a pleasure it's like having an orgasm it's an incredible pleasure." - Luis Figo
"Lionel Messi is quite clearly the best player ever. It's a pleasure to pit myself against him and when I finish my career it's something I can look back on and know I've tested myself against the very best." - John Terry
"In my entire life I have never seen a player of such quality and personality at such a young age, particularly wearing the 'heavy' shirt of one of the world's great clubs." - Fabio Capello
"Diego [Maradona] filled us with emotions. But between the cracks, without doubt, Messi is better than Maradona." - Diego Simeone
"I have played against Platini, Maradona, Cruyff and played withGeorge Best -- a lot of big names, but none of them has been able to do what Messi does. Two years ago I said that the best player I played against was Maradona and the best player I have played with was Bestie. But I can now say I have never seen a player as good as Messi. He's in a league of his own." - Former Tottenham star Gerry Armstrong
"Once they said they can only stop me with a pistol. Today you need a machine gun to stop Messi." - Hristo Stoichkov
People bring up the World Cup argument but in my opinion, the Champions League is the competition of highest quality in modern football
and it's not like he's even played terrible at World Cups, he was great at the last one and Maradona balls'd up 2010 with the way he set up the team and used Messi
People bring up the World Cup argument but in my opinion, the Champions League is the competition of highest quality in modern footballPeople bring up World cups because it is the only opportunity they have had to see a player like Messi outside a very strong Barcelona team, and within that environment it could be argues that he hasnt shone as brightly as he has for Barcelona.
when messi wins a world cup virtually single handedly, or bounce off scything tackles like he is a rubber ball, or wins a league title with an average side like napoli instead of playing in an all star line up at barcelona, then maybe in a few years he can be considered the best player in the world. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Colonel Cærdiffi
01-06-15, 14:13
Nice fresh new page.
I think this is the best new page of all time. I think you might be right. And I've seen some of the greats.
People bring up the World Cup argument but in my opinion, the Champions League is the competition of highest quality in modern football
and it's not like he's even played terrible at World Cups, he was great at the last one and Maradona balls'd up 2010 with the way he set up the team and used Messi He hasn't shone as brightly as he has for Barcelona but he's already Argentina's second highest goalscorer of all time at the age of 27 and he was great in the last World Cup, his only other opportunity was 2010 where Maradona didn't allow him any of the freedom he has at club level and Argentina got knocked out as Maradona decided to play Germany with 5 forwards and one midfielder
People bring up the World Cup argument but in my opinion, the Champions League is the competition of highest quality in modern football
and it's not like he's even played terrible at World Cups, he was great at the last one and Maradona balls'd up 2010 with the way he set up the team and used Messi
The champions league is a greatly inflated competition compared to the old European cup, in this case players get the chance to impress time and time again. Goal scoring stats are skewed these days especially at international level, as they play so many games, and sometimes against weaker opposition.
Nice fresh new page.
I think this is the best new page of all time. Back in Pele's era, the new pages were crisp lined paper, and you had to turn them yourself.
Heisenberg
01-06-15, 14:54
when messi wins a world cup virtually single handedly
mazadona10
01-06-15, 15:07
The whole argument about world cup wins is ridiculous. Argentina got to a final if they had got a penalty and won on penalties at the end of the game it would then be ok to say messi was the best.
Opinions should be formed on a players whole career not a couple of seasons or an international tournament.
Next, Messi hasn't won a league with an average team, so who is this average team who are going to sign him, why would he leave barcelona.
A player who stays loyal to 1 club suddenly gets criticism for not moving.
Messi didn't play against hatchet men and poor pitches, no he played against phenomenal athletes who are quicker and stronger than ever. People who can watch every second of every game to work out how to stop him, they can't. Players are super fit now everyone of them (even the ones we watch) I know I would rather play against a hatchet man than a super athlete.
For the argument of world cups you can say what about European cups. Maradona can't be considered as good until wins those.
Messi is watched every moment every game and if his performance drops people are onto him he has to perform every week.
It helps obviously playing for barcelona but with that comes more pressure you have to shine.They have got rid of zlatan, sanchez who were excellent players but could never do what Messi does.
World cups were a good indication of players previously because there wasn't the coverage there was now.
Messi does it every week at the highest level. I just think now he is head and shoulders above anything that has been past and present.
when messi wins a world cup virtually single handedly
That's impossible. No player has or will ever do that.but in my opinion messi is not as good and probably never will be as good as maradona.
Messi is the worlds best player.
However replace Messi with the Maradona of 86 in the last World Cup Final then Argentina would have won convincingly.
Maradona was not only superbly talented but also an incredible competitor. No way would he have been as out of the game and quiet for long periods hed have got hold of the ball and looked to run at the Germans. Hed have ripped them apart like he did to everyone else in 86.
The 2nd goal v England was unbelievable. It was almost as if he knew hed be slaughtered for the handball so he thought hed better take the ball back up the pitch and score another one. An incredilble goal.
Quotes from top players and managers in football:Most of those are old bastards, what would they know. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/tong.gif
Messi is the worlds best player.when maradona was in his prime, there were far more better players around throughout europe and south america.
Are we still voting for drug addicts and cheats on this nice new page.
I don't see how there can be an argument against him being the greatest player ever.
You could base it on influence, titles won, records won, entertainment factor, quality of goals scored, Messi would come top of any table for all of those.
I don't see how there can be an argument against him being the greatest player ever.the champions league for example, gives you far more chance of progressing than before, when it was based solely on a knockout basis http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Colonel Cærdiffi
01-06-15, 20:37
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messi,s grandad http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I don't see how there can be an argument against him being the greatest player ever.Surely not entertainment factor? Maradona wins that one hands down. I'd be amazed if there will ever be a more entertaining goal than that first one in 86. Still brings a smile to my face even now. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif
Broken Machine
01-06-15, 21:42
Messi is the worlds best player.
However replace Messi with the Maradona of 86 in the last World Cup Final then Argentina would have won convincingly.Why do you think there are less world class players in the world today?
Messi is the worlds best player.Now I absolutely love maradona but he played in two world cup finals and did hardly anything in both. He played a great pass for the winner in 86 but the trophy was won by the rest of the team.
Messi is the worlds best player.
However replace Messi with the Maradona of 86 in the last World Cup Final then Argentina would have won convincingly.Do you even think about what you're writing?
I don't see how there can be an argument against him being the greatest player ever.
You could base it on influence, titles won, records won, entertainment factor, quality of goals scored, Messi would come top of any table for all of those.Says Chris, the Weeds United 'fan'. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/homer.gif
Messi is the worlds best player.
However replace Messi with the Maradona of 86 in the last World Cup Final then Argentina would have won convincingly.when messi does the same come back. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Messi is the worlds best player.
However replace Messi with the Maradona of 86 in the last World Cup Final then Argentina would have won convincingly.
Maradona was not only superbly talented but also an incredible competitor. No way would he have been as out of the game and quiet for long periods hed have got hold of the ball and looked to run at the Germans. Hed have ripped them apart like he did to everyone else in 86.I'm talking to someone who doesn't even know what the word 'final' means.
I don't see how there can be an argument against him being the greatest player ever.
You could base it on influence, titles won, records won, entertainment factor, quality of goals scored, Messi would come top of any table for all of those.Maradona is considered one of the sport's most controversial and newsworthy figures. He was suspended from football for 15 months in 1991 after failing a drug test, for cocaine, in Italy, and he was sent home from the 1994 World Cup in the U.S. after testing positive for ephedrine. In 2005, he lost a considerable amount of extra weight and overcame his cocaine addiction
Colonel Cærdiffi
02-06-15, 07:11
I don't see how there can be an argument against him being the greatest player ever.
You could base it on influence, titles won, records won, entertainment factor, quality of goals scored, Messi would come top of any table for all of those.Madonna's popularity was further enhanced by her film roles; she won a Golden Globe Award for Best Actress for Evita (1996) while most of her other films have been panned by critics. Her other ventures include fashion design, writing children's books, and filmmaking. She has been acclaimed as a
we are not talking about the players personality, we are talking about their ability as a footballer.
messi could be considered dull, straight laced, boring. many great players have had faults in various sports.
george best, paul gascoigne, alex higgins, ronnie o,sullivan, its their ability that the public pay to watch, the fact they are not role models is irrelevant. they put bums on seats and are box office material.
messi is merely the best of what we have around at the present time. and compared to yesteryear, it does not say a right lot. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
we are not talking about the players personality, we are talking about their ability as a footballer.You said he was the fourth best player of all time, you utter goon.
we are not talking about the players personality, we are talking about their ability as a footballer.
messi could be considered dull, straight laced, boring. many great players have had faults in various sports. there is no comparison sunshine. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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