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blue matt
22-06-15, 16:33
Hello parents going Hungry

its all ok though, George will increase the amount you earn before you pay tax, Oh hang on, what if you only earn 10 - 12 K a year, you will be able to earn a extra few K without paying tax, it will not matter to you as you will not be able to earn that extra few K, so you will be a few hundred £ a month worse off http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif

sad times, how did we end up with them for another term ? ? ?

Observer
22-06-15, 19:08
Don't worry high paid jobs for the poor will pick up the slack http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

Kiffa
22-06-15, 19:18
Don't worry high paid jobs for the poor will pick up the slack http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gifMust be all those people simply just getting better paid jobs.

Observer
22-06-15, 19:25
Don't worry high paid jobs for the poor will pick up the slack http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Must be all those people simply just getting better paid jobs.It's a good thing they are not trying to neuter the unions who are now free to negotiate these massive wage increases http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/malky.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/malky.gif

Feedback
22-06-15, 20:00
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.

Hopefully we can see the 1500 people who work in wtc/ctc be moved on to something more productive like tax evasion rather than doing something which adds no value

Kiffa
22-06-15, 20:06
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.I see you are ignoring the fact that we still don't know where the 12bn is going to come from

Observer
22-06-15, 20:29
Poor people are not allowed to take money from the state .. only bankers, landlords, the top brass of privatised companies, and people who set up agencies to fleece the NHS http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

Feedback
22-06-15, 20:46
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.
Hopefully we can see the 1500 people who work in wtc/ctc be moved on to something more productive like tax evasion rather than doing something which adds no value Isn't the real issue people need tax credits rather than the underlying wealth distribution through the tax credit system.

Feedback
22-06-15, 20:46
Poor people are not allowed to take money from the state .. only bankers, landlords, the top brass of privatised companies, and people who set up agencies to fleece the NHS http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gifYou mean like Tony and cherie Blair?

Observer
22-06-15, 21:15
Poor people are not allowed to take money from the state .. only bankers, landlords, the top brass of privatised companies, and people who set up agencies to fleece the NHS http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
You mean like Tony and cherie Blair? Yes, the easy money is available to all of those who have the 'right' connections.

qccfc
23-06-15, 08:31
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.
Hopefully we can see the 1500 people who work in wtc/ctc be moved on to something more productive like tax evasion rather than doing something which adds no value
I see you are ignoring the fact that we still don't know where the 12bn is going to come fromHowever a single parent earning £25,000 a year with 2 children is heading for a cut of around £1,400 a year.

Feedback
23-06-15, 08:53
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.
Hopefully we can see the 1500 people who work in wtc/ctc be moved on to something more productive like tax evasion rather than doing something which adds no value
I see you are ignoring the fact that we still don't know where the 12bn is going to come from
I'm not ignoring anything. The government have specifically said child tax credits are outside the scope of the cut.you are correct about CHB however nothing has been decided about CTC whereas WTC has been confirmed.

qccfc
23-06-15, 08:59
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.
Hopefully we can see the 1500 people who work in wtc/ctc be moved on to something more productive like tax evasion rather than doing something which adds no value
I see you are ignoring the fact that we still don't know where the 12bn is going to come from
I'm not ignoring anything. The government have specifically said child tax credits are outside the scope of the cut.
Isn't the real issue people need tax credits rather than the underlying wealth distribution through the tax credit system.By buying the votes of the middle classes, we are forced into the wrong decision.

Feedback
23-06-15, 11:05
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. Ignoring this glaring omission from the OP and the fact child tax credits won't be affected, this seems a sensible policy to stop taxing people and then giving it back to them.
Hopefully we can see the 1500 people who work in wtc/ctc be moved on to something more productive like tax evasion rather than doing something which adds no value
I see you are ignoring the fact that we still don't know where the 12bn is going to come from
I'm not ignoring anything. The government have specifically said child tax credits are outside the scope of the cut.
Isn't the real issue people need tax credits rather than the underlying wealth distribution through the tax credit system.
Wrong. Child benefit is off the table for cuts. Child tax credit is free for the chop.put your idea forward as it seems a very sensible policy. the only issue is that we are talking the civil service here...whilst they can get things done the levels of bureaucracy mean things don't happen quickly. I imagine the Tories know it is easier to implement their policy than to implement yours.

Eric Cartman
23-06-15, 15:09
I am pleased to see that the subsidised bars and restaurants of the Houses of Parliament have made it through the next round of cuts.

Feedback
23-06-15, 15:17
I am pleased to see that the subsidised bars and restaurants of the Houses of Parliament have made it through the next round of cuts. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

Auntie Andy
24-06-15, 06:59
I am pleased to see that the subsidised bars and restaurants of the Houses of Parliament have made it through the next round of cuts.Makes me ashamed http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif

Elysium
24-06-15, 08:28
Hello parents going Hungry They would have been catastrophic times rather than sad times.

SLUDGE FACTORY
25-06-15, 04:21
Hello parents going Hungry
its all ok though, George will increase the amount you earn before you pay tax, Oh hang on, what if you only earn 10 - 12 K a year, you will be able to earn a extra few K without paying tax, it will not matter to you as you will not be able to earn that extra few K, so you will be a few hundred £ a month worse off http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif Many of these cuts are purely ideological , they won't touch child benefit for fear of upsetting the upper middle classes and won't touch old age pensioners because so much of their vote in middle England , which keeps them in power, would not vote for the capitalist scum

Vimana.
25-06-15, 11:25
^^ This.

Elysium
25-06-15, 11:54
^^ This.^^Not that.

Observer
25-06-15, 14:05
^^ This.
^^Not that.^^Not this. Definitely that.

blue matt
12-07-15, 13:46
I spoke to the guy on Friday, he did the BBC calculator thing and it said he will be £1300 a year worse off ( just over 100 quid a month ) he has happy with that, as he said it could have been far worse

Feedback
12-07-15, 14:07
Hello parents going Hungry
its all ok though, George will increase the amount you earn before you pay tax, Oh hang on, what if you only earn 10 - 12 K a year, you will be able to earn a extra few K without paying tax, it will not matter to you as you will not be able to earn that extra few K, so you will be a few hundred £ a month worse off http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif
sad times, how did we end up with them for another term ? ? ?That's because we have a government that has made sensible spending decisions.

severncity
13-07-15, 17:03
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/homer.gif

Feedback
13-07-15, 17:09
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway.
Eh? People who work 35 hours a week at the minimum wage of £6:50 an hour will earn £11,830 per annum.I did qualify it by putting a range in there. hope this helps.

severncity
13-07-15, 17:37
If you earn 10-12k per annum then you're not working full time and won't be entitled to full working tax credits anyway.
Eh? People who work 35 hours a week at the minimum wage of £6:50 an hour will earn £11,830 per annum.
I thought that accountants were supposed to be able to add up?https://www.gov.uk/working-tax-credit/eligibility