View Full Version : HELP WANTED: Miriam Maud Usher of ELY, Cardiff
Llanharan Blues
14-07-15, 21:10
Miriam Maud Usher of ELY, Cardiff
Right this is going to be a very long shot, but I have been checking ancestry and its a bit rubbish.
I am researching my biological side of my family. I know who my real farther was, and who my real mum is.
Now I have a birth certifcate of my real farther, but on there it only states his mothers name "Miriam Maud Usher" (my grand mother), and not his dad (my grand farther).
I am trying to find out why my grand farther was not the birth certificate of my farther. Did my grand mother have a one night stand, probably not, dont think those things happend then. Or did my grand farther die in the army or something.
Problem I got I dont know his name, I have checked marriages and have found nothing.
Anyway Miriam Maud Usher was born July 4th, in 1911, and I think she may have died in 1959. Now when she was born she live in 44 Bridge Street, Cardiff (not sure of the area).
However when she gave birth to my farther (Gefferey Usher) she lived in Ely, Cardiff. Strange thing is my farther had her name, so perhaps my grand farther just done a bunk.
Ok I have gone on a bit but if anyone can help PM me thanks.
I think if you look further, you may be farther from finding your father. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Soz, couldn't resist.
Good luck with your search. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Have you got your father's marriage cert?
That will either show his father's name or that space will be blank.
If blank, and as you say the birth cert also has a blank for the father's name, then probably your father was born out of wedlock.
More:
Miriam indeed died in the March Qtr of 1959 in the Cardiff Reg District.
And from what I can see, Miriam's mother's surname was Meredith - so perhaps Usher was the father's surname even if he isn't mentioned on the cert.
Michael Morris
14-07-15, 22:05
I lived in Archer Rd, Ely. I was there during the 1970's and our next door neighbours were 'Usher'. I'll PM you the exact address
I lived in Archer Rd, Ely. I was there during the 1970's and our next door neighbours were 'Usher'. I'll PM you the exact addressYeah?
Still more: the 1911 census shows William (a fishmonger) and his wife, Maud, Usher living at 44 Bridge Street, Cardiff. Both were born in Cardiff.
In Sept Qtr 1907, William Usher married Eliza Maud Meredith.
In view of everything you've said and what I have noted, I'm surprised Miriam's birth cert isn't more specific about her father's name unless William wasn't the father.
Quite fascinating - I like a good mystery unravelling http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Cyclops, how / where do you go to get your info so swiftly?
Quite fascinating - I like a good mystery unravelling http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif Was this the fall of the house of Usher? Ho Ho Poe!
Vinny Riley
14-07-15, 22:34
I love this thread:-) a refreshing change. Good man Cyclops
And now we get a lil nerdy....a W. Usher played rugby for Cardiff vs Gloucester in November 1900. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif
There is a Bridge Street in Llandaff. It runs from left of the old police station, just above the Heathcock Inn up to the Cathedral green. Full of little old cottages although there are some gaps where newer houses have been built. No 44 may still stand. (you can also check Llandaff Parish Records for that kind of period)
If you check the Kelly's on the top floor of the Central Library you can cross reference surnames. The old books always referred to the male occupant as householder unless there was none. Hence when my maternal Grand Father dies in early 1920 the book for 1921 referred to his widow as the house holder
lock n load
15-07-15, 05:54
Miriam Maud Usher of ELY, Cardiffone night stands, affairs etc. are not a modern phenomenon you'd be surprised how much of it did go on.
Yeah, my great grandmother had three children in the 1870s by a man/men to whom she wasn't married AFTER she married my Grt grandfather.
I believe he got the hump (after she did the humping!) and walked out - never to be found (by me, anyway) again. He certainly did time for vagrancy around this period.
The baptism record shows one of her sons sired by my grt gpa and the very next entry describes another son as the progeny of a 'single woman'. She was in her forties then! What a gal!
After that parental example, three of her daughters had children before they married - two were in service and were seduced. I recently spoke to the daughter of one of these children who said her father told her he would weep about his illegitimacy 'til the day he died'.
If you check the Kelly's on the top floor of the Central Library you can cross reference surnames. Last time I checked you had to make an appointment and go to another location to use the referenece books. A disgrace for a building only relatively recently built.
Taunton Blue Genie
15-07-15, 07:10
Miriam Maud Usher of ELY, Cardiff
Right this is going to be a very long shot, but I have been checking ancestry and its a bit rubbish.To think we have this wonderfully long line of ancestors purely based on surnames/marriage is probably fanciful.
Dead right, Genie.
All genealogy is based on statements on parish documents, birth/marriage certs, censuses and wills. People plain lied - they provably did on census day! So apart from DNA testing, even the most well researched family tree can be a load of pants.
My favourite story is of the bloke who spent 25 years researching his family, delving into parish records in churches all over the UK, travelling 1000s of mile and spending a heap of money, tracing his kin back to Adam......
....only to be told by an aunt that he was adopted.
So, LBlue - you logged on ten minutes ago - what d'ya think?
Taunton Blue Genie
15-07-15, 07:29
Dead right, Genie.An article I remember reading a few years back was about a man born illegitmately in East Germany at the end of the Second World War. His mother told the authorities and everyone else, including her son, that he was the result of a rape committed by an American soldier. He grew up with a fascination of all things US and collected American paraphenalia to bolster his identity, something that was quite important to him as he had no father around. I think that he even managed to get hold of an American car, which was quite a feat in the former East Germany. Later in his life his mother admitted that she was raped by a Russian soldier. (Reminiscent of the major protagonist in the play 'Andorra' perhaps).
I think your grandfather was Mike Usher - who has just registered his name on here to claim the family silver after decades of poverty and deprivation living on Archer Road and enduring the neighbours from hell.
Rock_Flock_of_Five
15-07-15, 17:12
Interesting thread, thanks Llanharan Blues and particularly to you Cyclops - as for Steve R...
ian gibson
15-07-15, 17:14
There is a Bridge Street in Llandaff. It runs from left of the old police station, just above the Heathcock Inn up to the Cathedral green. Full of little old cottages although there are some gaps where newer houses have been built. No 44 may still stand. (you can also check Llandaff Parish Records for that kind of period)It's still there, I did a load of work at the house next door but one to it two years ago.
There is a Bridge Street in Llandaff. It runs from left of the old police station, just above the Heathcock Inn up to the Cathedral green. Full of little old cottages although there are some gaps where newer houses have been built. No 44 may still stand. (you can also check Llandaff Parish Records for that kind of period)
If you check the Kelly's on the top floor of the Central Library you can cross reference surnames. The old books always referred to the male occupant as householder unless there was none. Hence when my maternal Grand Father dies in early 1920 the book for 1921 referred to his widow as the house holder http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
ian gibson
15-07-15, 17:36
There is a Bridge Street in Llandaff. It runs from left of the old police station, just above the Heathcock Inn up to the Cathedral green. Full of little old cottages although there are some gaps where newer houses have been built. No 44 may still stand. (you can also check Llandaff Parish Records for that kind of period)
If you check the Kelly's on the top floor of the Central Library you can cross reference surnames. The old books always referred to the male occupant as householder unless there was none. Hence when my maternal Grand Father dies in early 1920 the book for 1921 referred to his widow as the house holder
It's still there, I did a load of work at the house next door but one to it two years ago.It didn't look as good as that http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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