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Plenty will agree with Cameron's plans, plenty will think they don't go hard enough, but think elements of this article should at least be read/heard.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/its-scary-just-h ow-much-david-cameron-doesnt-seem-to-understand-extremism-10 402276.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/its-scary-just-how-much-david-cameron-doesnt-seem-to-understand-extremism-10402276.html)
"Dr Matthew Francis, an academic researching radicalisation, specifically stresses that there is a difference between ideology and violence "there are radicals that aren't terrorists, but you also have terrorists who are not radical. It is important to make sure that these concepts are divorced." This conveyor-belt theory on radicalisation has been discredited at every turn by experts and researchers, and is concerning not least because it casts the net of extremism so wide it undermines some very basic civil liberties."
There have been great documentaries on BBC and Channel 4 that have looked at radicalisation in the UK (My Brother the Islamist and its sequel) and one about the situation in France which are well worth a watch.
There's a great deal David Cameron doesn't understand unfortunately
The question is how far will the 'non-violent' net be cast, and will any 'normal' people outside of any religious ideology be targeted for merely expressing an opinion?
The question is how far will the 'non-violent' net be cast, and will any 'normal' people outside of any religious ideology be targeted for merely expressing an opinion?The documentary in France after Charlie Hebdo described how a primary school child was introduced to the police for his "extreme" views.
The question is how far will the 'non-violent' net be cast, and will any 'normal' people outside of any religious ideology be targeted for merely expressing an opinion?
The documentary in France after Charlie Hebdo described how a primary school child was introduced to the police for his "extreme" views. I honestly don't believe there will even be any protests. There may be a bit of grumbling from those in the know, and a few stern blogs from privacy campaigners.. but that's about it. Most people are completely unaware of this charter, and many of those who are are content... because it will 'keep them safe', from the bogeyman."
The usual argument to open up your private life to the government is that it won't affect innocent people and it will protect from ISIS/paedos.
Well, "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone" says different.
Over 160,000 non-violent extremists have been discovered living right here in the UK during the past 24 hours alone!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104334
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gifWot u doin in ere, did u press da rong buttun
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
Wot u doin in ere, did u press da rong buttunBruh, I have been interested in politics for a long time. Socialist and proud
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
Wot u doin in ere, did u press da rong buttun
Bruh, I have been interested in politics for a long time. Socialist and proud http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gifI'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out? David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.Never ending cycle since colonialism. Bout time Western World butted out?
Mrs Steve R
22-07-15, 21:57
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.
Never ending cycle since colonialism. Bout time Western World butted out?Tackling extremism has nothing to do with terrorists.
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.
Never ending cycle since colonialism. Bout time Western World butted out?
Tackling extremism has nothing to do with terrorists.It's economic imperialism, and they have even got the hard working people of this country within their sights.
Mrs Steve R
22-07-15, 22:19
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.
Never ending cycle since colonialism. Bout time Western World butted out?
Tackling extremism has nothing to do with terrorists.
It's economic imperialism, and they have even got the hard working people of this country within their sights. https://www.rt.com/op-edge/310290-occupy-london-extremism-uk / (https://www.rt.com/op-edge/310290-occupy-london-extremism-uk/)
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.
Never ending cycle since colonialism. Bout time Western World butted out?
Tackling extremism has nothing to do with terrorists.
It's economic imperialism, and they have even got the hard working people of this country within their sights.
It's so frustrating that people are not bothered about this, maybe they don't see the importance of being able to protest and defend our rights ect, if you disagree with David Cameron you will be an extremist, If that bill goes through it's game over, First they came for the sick and disabled, then they came for the poor. And then they came for the working poor .. (to be continued.)
Mrs Steve R
22-07-15, 23:06
Well... I am sure a white person knows about issues that affect Asian communities, even tho the media (the likes of the Mail) blew it out. Just saying http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at. Who is the white person? What did the Mail blow out?
David Cameron keeps commenting on these issues. The media blow out these issues of extremism.
It's all part of the master plan. In years to come you will be asking yourself why you didn't spot their cunning.
Never ending cycle since colonialism. Bout time Western World butted out?
Tackling extremism has nothing to do with terrorists.
It's economic imperialism, and they have even got the hard working people of this country within their sights.
It's so frustrating that people are not bothered about this, maybe they don't see the importance of being able to protest and defend our rights ect, if you disagree with David Cameron you will be an extremist, If that bill goes through it's game over,
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/310290-occupy-london-extremism-uk / (https://www.rt.com/op-edge/310290-occupy-london-extremism-uk/)Things like FTAC will probably become more active too, the unit can legally detain people for an indefinite period without trial, criminal charges or even evidence of a crime being committed and with very limited rights of appeal, something to look forward too eh? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Mrs Steve R
23-07-15, 11:04
Not only do they want to silence anyone who speaks out against them they want to keep all their shit hidden away too. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/rolleyes.gif
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3170215/We-curb-free dom-information-law-says-Sir-Cover-Jeremy-Heywood-argues-new -restrictions-stop-government-incompetence-exposed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3170215/We-curb-freedom-information-law-says-Sir-Cover-Jeremy-Heywood-argues-new-restrictions-stop-government-incompetence-exposed.html)
http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/british-muslim-org-co nsult (http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/british-muslim-org-consult)
"Sky News reported that the speech was the result of an "extensive consultation".
a number of organisations claiming to represent large swaths of the British Muslim community say they were not included in any consultation process.
One of the groups is the Muslim Council of Britain, which represents over 500 Muslim organisations across the UK. "The Muslim Council of Britain was not consulted by the government prior to the Prime Minister's speech being delivered," an MCB spokesperson told BuzzFeed News.
"these latest suggestions will set new litmus tests which may brand us all as extremists, even though we uphold and celebrate the rule of law, democracy and rights for all".
http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/british-muslim-org-co nsult (http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/british-muslim-org-consult)Exactly... a white person thinks he has the answers http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/rolleyes.gif Ignore the Muslims...
Mrs Steve R
23-07-15, 14:52
http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/british-muslim-org-co nsult (http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/british-muslim-org-consult)
<font color="green"><i>"Sky News reported that the speech was the result of an "extensive consultation".Adz this new bill has nothing to do with Muslims either, that's probably why they were not consulted, it's about turning this country in to a police state, it's all based on lies and exaggerations to make us go along with it, did you read that RT link I posted? this will cover legitimate protest groups, animal rights, fracking, austerity ect.
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