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DP1
08-09-15, 17:57
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

However if these guys had committed a successful terrorist attack in the UK, and were convicted by a court, they would go to prison.

Why does the Govt allow the attack, without a trial, but then not sentence these scum to capital punishment in this country.

I personally would have no issue with them being sent to paradise

blue matt
08-09-15, 18:29
Just going to fire up my popcorn maker http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/wink.gif

SLUDGE FACTORY
08-09-15, 18:37
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics

We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost

Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need

Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism

blue matt
08-09-15, 18:40
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics we cannot stand by and do nothing

jeepster
08-09-15, 18:41
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif What about the scum who did commit an attack on Lee Rigsby, only go to prison http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif They should have been sent to paradise.The ones killed by the drone were only planning i do not understand the difference.

SLUDGE FACTORY
08-09-15, 18:50
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost In the long term we are anyway

tommy31
08-09-15, 20:03
heres a good double standard:

drone takes out guys who are planning an attack, this is a good move.
now imagine IS had taken out a few guys who were planning an attack on them. this is terrorism, but the former isnt?

protex blue
08-09-15, 20:04
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
However if these guys had committed a successful terrorist attack in the UK, and were convicted by a court, they would go to prison.That would be the ultimate sentence a life time of Scottish Premiership football.

Steve R
08-09-15, 20:08
Paradise aka Celtic Park!!You're thinking of Dundee United mate.

Saundersfootblue
08-09-15, 20:16
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics Nothing like a good hanging Sludge.It may not cure the problem,but it entertains the great unwashed.

alfie sherwood
08-09-15, 20:28
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost you think that the act carried out against the jihadi nutter in Syria won't bring "more terror" to our streets?

jeepster
08-09-15, 20:48
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need This is what worries me. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sad.gif

blue matt
08-09-15, 22:00
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need we are dammed in whatever we do

Heathccfc
08-09-15, 22:01
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/211793/the_truth_abo ut_the_migrant_crisis/ (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/211793/the_truth_about_the_migrant_crisis/)

Harry Flashman
08-09-15, 22:24
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
However if these guys had committed a successful terrorist attack in the UK, and were convicted by a court, they would go to prison.Ohhh Miss Jones, Miss Jones.

SLUDGE FACTORY
08-09-15, 22:32
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
However if these guys had committed a successful terrorist attack in the UK, and were convicted by a court, they would go to prison.Even after stabilising the area Islamic terrorism will be with us till we are all long gone and the human race is extinct

Steve R
08-09-15, 22:40
Thanks Saudis have the wealth to help and indeed the land for safe havens but they have loads of oil so we don't want to upset them You can forget coming down here for coffee if all you're going to spout is doom and fecking gloom. Piss off.

Mrs Steve R
08-09-15, 22:42
I will just leave this here..

Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq)

JamesWales
08-09-15, 23:13
I've no issue with killing any ISIS member in Syria. It's justified.

I do entirely, 100% oppose the death penalty though; it cheapens us, it's immoral, it lets them off the hook, it's a lawyers paradise, and it doesn't work as a deterrent, or allow the victims families to forgive later in life if they so wish.

Temujin
09-09-15, 00:21
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost **** me dead there are some ****ing idiots out there.

alfie sherwood
09-09-15, 06:28
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need
Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism The instinct of every one of us is to want to see the evil, fascist ISIS smashed but crowd pleasing actions by the British government in Syria (well, it pleases the tabloids and some of the simple souls on here) aren't going to provide the solution.

DP1
09-09-15, 07:29
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need
Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism
So shall we just leave ISIS alone and let them train more and more in " schools " in syria / iraq ?? ? ?Terrorism CAN be defeated by a combination of both military and political strategies or sometimes they just give up because they do not even know what they are fighting for and start in fighting between each other.

alfie sherwood
09-09-15, 07:42
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need
Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism
So shall we just leave ISIS alone and let them train more and more in " schools " in syria / iraq ?? ? ?
then more and more terror arrives on our streetsDon't misunderstand me, I think that ISIS will definitely have to be crushed via military, intelligence and political means. I'm all for the west providing intelligence to Middle East countries fighting ISIS on the ground and in the air. I'm just firmly opposed to any direct western military intervention in the region because it will, undoubtedly, be counterproductive and continue the conveyor belt of jihadis for many years to come.

Colonel Cærdiffi
09-09-15, 08:07
I will just leave this here..There's simply no coming back from this.

Observer
09-09-15, 08:15
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraqhttps://archive.org/details/manufacturing_consent

Observer
09-09-15, 08:30
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and IraqDistracted while all this is going on http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/08/britain -civilised-mafia-state (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/08/britain-civilised-mafia-state)

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 08:44
I will just leave this here..I am starting to get the hang of these articles. Use information that was already out there in the public knowledge. Bring it up pretend its news (whereas its from a paper 2 years ago), and throw a conspiracy in to the article to get the attention of those that love a conspiracy theory. Bam you have got another hit on your website.

Observer
09-09-15, 09:05
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and IraqAnd this is the predictable point when you step in and pretend to know everything http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 10:01
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq) http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Just because some of you have memories like a fish. No wonder you like these conspiracy theories, if you forget everything that is over 6 months old. It happens alot where one you of post something like this that is information that is already out there. A bit like when you found out the UK tracks the internet. We have been doing it since the 90s, but outrage is caused when it makes the papers.

Observer
09-09-15, 10:09
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq)
This was information has been public for ages. The government said they were arming the syrian rebels. Just turns out some of them were ISIS pretending to be Syrian rebels.You have just claimed that enough arms to take out 4 countries were given to a group of people in error. Would you like to include some sources?

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 10:16
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq)
This was information has been public for ages. The government said they were arming the syrian rebels. Just turns out some of them were ISIS pretending to be Syrian rebels.
There were critics at the time who remember arming the Afghanistan people, only for those guns to later be used against us. I confirmed we gave the rebels some arms and these made it into ISIS hands. They also over powered the IRAQ army and stole tanks and other arms. They had the IRAQ army withdrawing so quickly they didn't have time to take anything with them.

Observer
09-09-15, 10:25
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq)
This was information has been public for ages. The government said they were arming the syrian rebels. Just turns out some of them were ISIS pretending to be Syrian rebels.
There were critics at the time who remember arming the Afghanistan people, only for those guns to later be used against us.
I dont know if you remember but before ISIS came to notice, the rebels were being attacked by Syria, who were trying to carry on the Arab spring in their country. The UK public and world-wide public supported the rebels, the government voted against sending in troops, and decided to arm the rebels.I can't find the part in that article where it says arms were accidentally given to the wrong people.

Mrs Steve R
09-09-15, 12:08
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and IraqYou are right, there is no coming back from this.

Observer
09-09-15, 13:35
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq)There is even a link above to the Manufacturing Consent video which is a good watch http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

Mrs Steve R
09-09-15, 14:18
I will just leave this here..
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis -syria-iraq (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq)
There was a time when an article like that would have caused uproar and protest throughout this country, and would have been front page news for weeks leading to high-level embarrassment, resignations and perhaps even trials.https://youtu.be/KmQw6CryE9M

blue matt
09-09-15, 14:30
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need I look forward to your insightful solution to the problem http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 15:23
Above where?14 mins in and nothing ground breaking, or any real evidence, just some guy shouting.

goslow
09-09-15, 15:47
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need
Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism
So shall we just leave ISIS alone and let them train more and more in " schools " in syria / iraq ?? ? ?
then more and more terror arrives on our streets
we cannot stand by and do nothingUnfortunately most ME armies are geared toward suppressing internal unrest and as shown by the failure of the iraqi army .mind you there's always the israelis.

Observer
09-09-15, 17:23
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?

Packerman
09-09-15, 17:28
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

BLUETIT
09-09-15, 17:31
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?Thought it was WWF, not WW3 http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif

Observer
09-09-15, 17:38
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?

BLUETIT
09-09-15, 17:41
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?I play with either wood or plastic pieces, never heard of bombs being used. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

Observer
09-09-15, 17:44
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?
What type of chess do you play. ?Mental chess http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif And if playing chess gives you wood I would go and see a doctor http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

BLUETIT
09-09-15, 17:49
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?
What type of chess do you play. ?
I play with either wood or plastic pieces, never heard of bombs being used. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif Those pieces are special http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

goslow
09-09-15, 18:04
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?No

alfie sherwood
09-09-15, 18:06
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need
Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism
So shall we just leave ISIS alone and let them train more and more in " schools " in syria / iraq ?? ? ?
then more and more terror arrives on our streets
we cannot stand by and do nothing
you think that the act carried out against the jihadi nutter in Syria won't bring "more terror" to our streets? Or Iran..

Mrs Steve R
09-09-15, 18:07
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?No need to reply, I already know the answer.

Observer
09-09-15, 18:23
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?
I was just going to bring up the same thing, if ISIS are the big problem they say they are and Putin was going to kick some ISIS ass why would they want to stop him? Yet people on here post uninformed comments, when I posed a legitimate question about the possibility of escalation.

Mrs Steve R
09-09-15, 18:38
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I was just asking like. Putin is going to bomb IS from the Syrian side. If Obama wants IS destroyed it's all well and good. Do you think Putin is being helpful or is he playing a game of chess?
I was just going to bring up the same thing, if ISIS are the big problem they say they are and Putin was going to kick some ISIS ass why would they want to stop him?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/09/world/europe/us-moves-to-b lock-russian-military-buildup-in-syria.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/09/world/europe/us-moves-to-block-russian-military-buildup-in-syria.html?_r=1)You get used to that. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 18:39
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Doom monger Gluey strikes again. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif She dies love to over react and think the worst. Her glass could be 90% full and she would worry about it being empty.

blue matt
09-09-15, 18:42
We all know the only way to " defeat " ( and i use that loosely ) ISIS is boots on the ground, will the US / UK / EUR have the stomach for that ? ? ?

It looks like Russia might, yes it will be to show the world that Russia are " mighty " etc etc

Observer
09-09-15, 19:04
We all know the only way to " defeat " ( and i use that loosely ) ISIS is boots on the ground, will the US / UK / EUR have the stomach for that ? ? ?That is a salient point.

Observer
09-09-15, 19:06
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Doom monger Gluey strikes again. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif She dies love to over react and think the worst. Her glass could be 90% full and she would worry about it being empty.Didn't the recent events in Calais spark a cell in that enormous brain of yours into life?

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 19:19
What recent events? The strike? Or do you mean the problems of hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there for 10plus years?

You love a drama don't you.

Mrs Steve R
09-09-15, 19:21
Is that a No? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif Is that a No? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 19:23
So now the migrants are going to start a world war. You shoud work for the daily mail. You would fit right in with making over the top headlines.

Observer
09-09-15, 19:25
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?A group of migrants, smaller in number than Cardiff City's lowest attendance were allowed to run amok for days under the noses of two of the worlds greatest superpowers.

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 19:26
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?
You love a drama don't you. And that will start a World war? Please tell me more.

alfie sherwood
09-09-15, 19:29
We all know the only way to " defeat " ( and i use that loosely ) ISIS is boots on the ground, will the US / UK / EUR have the stomach for that ? ? ?With respect, thank fcuk you aren't in a position of any power http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

Observer
09-09-15, 19:35
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?
You love a drama don't you.
A group of migrants, smaller in number than Cardiff City's lowest attendance were allowed to run amok for days under the noses of two of the worlds greatest superpowers.That was the genius bit, a minister then came out and said they would apply to the EU to restrict all benefits claims from migrants for 4 years.

Barry Dragon
09-09-15, 19:56
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?
You love a drama don't you.
A group of migrants, smaller in number than Cardiff City's lowest attendance were allowed to run amok for days under the noses of two of the worlds greatest superpowers.
And that will start a World war? Please tell me more.*I just made this up

Observer
09-09-15, 19:59
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?
You love a drama don't you.
A group of migrants, smaller in number than Cardiff City's lowest attendance were allowed to run amok for days under the noses of two of the worlds greatest superpowers.
And that will start a World war? Please tell me more.
That was the genius bit, a minister then came out and said they would apply to the EU to restrict all benefits claims from migrants for 4 years.Bingo!

Packerman
09-09-15, 20:00
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?
You love a drama don't you.
A group of migrants, smaller in number than Cardiff City's lowest attendance were allowed to run amok for days under the noses of two of the worlds greatest superpowers.
And that will start a World war? Please tell me more.
That was the genius bit, a minister then came out and said they would apply to the EU to restrict all benefits claims from migrants for 4 years.
I remember that. Last I saw the idea was shot down because the EU laws would mean it would have to apply to uk citizens aswell. and that starts world war three, fecking hell

Mrs Steve R
09-09-15, 20:12
What recent events? The strike? Or o you mean the problems if hundreds of migrants on the border that have been there fit 10plus years?
You love a drama don't you.
A group of migrants, smaller in number than Cardiff City's lowest attendance were allowed to run amok for days under the noses of two of the worlds greatest superpowers.
And that will start a World war? Please tell me more.
That was the genius bit, a minister then came out and said they would apply to the EU to restrict all benefits claims from migrants for 4 years.If anything is going to cause trouble it will be because their plans are messed up, isis is a problem they created and they want to keep it that way, they don't want Putin wading in and fixing things, would balls everything up. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

blue matt
09-09-15, 21:40
We all know the only way to " defeat " ( and i use that loosely ) ISIS is boots on the ground, will the US / UK / EUR have the stomach for that ? ? ?
It looks like Russia might, yes it will be to show the world that Russia are " mighty " etc etc With respect, thank fcuk you aren't in a position of any power, as you seem very good at twisting things to suit your own agenda, which is alot like the lot we have in power at the mo http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

goslow
09-09-15, 21:54
Capital punishment is not only bringing us down to the level of the barbarian , it is wrong , creates Islamic martyrs and encourages more of the lunatics
We will never defeat terrorism , the war on terror is lost
Our meddling in the middle East , following America around like a puppy has given these mad people all the ammo they need
Until the death of this planet , we are stuck with terrorism
So shall we just leave ISIS alone and let them train more and more in " schools " in syria / iraq ?? ? ?
then more and more terror arrives on our streets
we cannot stand by and do nothing
you think that the act carried out against the jihadi nutter in Syria won't bring "more terror" to our streets?
No, where did i say that ? ? ?If you trust iran to leave if/when isis is defeated.turkey has one of the largest standing armies in the world yet they aren't in any rush to end the conflict.

alfie sherwood
10-09-15, 08:24
We all know the only way to " defeat " ( and i use that loosely ) ISIS is boots on the ground, will the US / UK / EUR have the stomach for that ? ? ?
It looks like Russia might, yes it will be to show the world that Russia are " mighty " etc etc
Does anybody, other than you and a load of Sun readers, actually believe that?There are plenty of Iraqis, Syrians and also Iranians already fighting ISIS. With the support of international community intelligence and training ISIS will be defeated but it's going to take time. Better that way than the madness of a western ground force entering the fray and the terrible fall out that will ensue.

DP1
10-09-15, 09:41
We all know the only way to " defeat " ( and i use that loosely ) ISIS is boots on the ground, will the US / UK / EUR have the stomach for that ? ? ?
It looks like Russia might, yes it will be to show the world that Russia are " mighty " etc etc
Does anybody, other than you and a load of Sun readers, actually believe that?
It will take boots on the ground to beat ISIS but British, American or Russian ones won't ever achieve that goal. It would be the same old story, put down the insurgency, kill some of the bad guys, leave a power vacuum, then the bad guys come back more deadly and in much bigger numbers. I believe firmly that ISIS will defeat itself. The barbarity that it inflicts on others will cause in fighting within its own ranks. Together with "local" forces actions and "intelligence led targeting" by US/French/UK etc air attacks means their time will soon be up. You will of course still have hard core members but not on the scale that we see now

Harry Monk
10-09-15, 14:15
Totally support the Govt on the Drone attack on the ISIS Terrorists in Syria, good shot I say. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
However if these guys had committed a successful terrorist attack in the UK, and were convicted by a court, they would go to prison.I don't accept Christianity.

Observer
14-10-15, 19:53
Is everybody still sticking to their original opinions, now that we have Russians planes in the air, cruise missiles on the sea, Iran soldiers on the ground and Chinese military advisers providing logistical support in Syria, plus the confusion over who the US and her allies have been activelly supporting with arms and finance.

All I've got to say on the matter, is that WW1 and WW2 kicked-off over far less.

Observer
14-10-15, 20:09
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Doom monger Gluey strikes again. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif She dies love to over react and think the worst. Her glass could be 90% full and she would worry about it being empty.Barry Dragon spot on again http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif What an overreaction it was predicting that major nations would be taking sides and facing-off against each other over Syria. I blame it on too much hot chocolate before bedtime http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

Mrs Steve R
14-10-15, 20:17
Does anybody think this could escalate into WW3?
not surprised that you would http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Doom monger Gluey strikes again. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif She dies love to over react and think the worst. Her glass could be 90% full and she would worry about it being empty.
Barry Dragon spot on again http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif What an overreaction it was predicting that major nations would be taking sides and facing-off against each other over Syria. I blame it on too much hot chocolate before bedtime http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif I think it's Horlicks http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

Packerman
14-10-15, 20:22
Is everybody still sticking to their original opinions, now that we have Russians planes in the air, cruise missiles on the sea, Iran soldiers on the ground and Chinese military advisers providing logistical support in Syria, plus the confusion over who the US and her allies have been activelly supporting with arms and finance. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif