View Full Version : Its a pity 16 year olds cannot vote in this one .
life on mars
22-06-16, 14:05
Been listening to youngsters views, and their difference of approach to the modern world which is a stark difference to the views to of the older older voters , its a pity they cannot vote on their immediate future , the government needs to look at itself on this one, as a missed opportunity .
Wales-Bales
22-06-16, 14:23
Been listening to youngsters views, and their difference of approach to the modern world which is a stark difference to the views to of the older older voters , its a pity they cannot vote on their immediate future , the government needs to look at itself on this one, as a missed opportunity .
Or maybe they didn't want them to vote :sherlock: :hehe:
This may be a bit controversial, but I personally wouldn't allow anyone over a certain age to vote, on the basis that they won't be around to have to deal with the outcome.
This may be a bit controversial, but I personally wouldn't allow anyone over a certain age to vote, on the basis that they won't be around to have to deal with the outcome.
What, like people who have fought in wars for their country? You suggest that they should be denied a vote in the referendum?
Wales-Bales
22-06-16, 14:58
This may be a bit controversial, but I personally wouldn't allow anyone over a certain age to vote, on the basis that they won't be around to have to deal with the outcome.
It's not controversial at all, it is a logically correct argument.
Croesy Blue
22-06-16, 14:58
What, like people who have fought in wars for their country? You suggest that they should be denied a vote in the referendum?
What a complete simpleton you are.
This may be a bit controversial, but I personally wouldn't allow anyone over a certain age to vote, on the basis that they won't be around to have to deal with the outcome.
great idea, lets leave our futures to the 18 yr olds bound to end well
Wales-Bales
22-06-16, 14:59
What, like people who have fought in wars for their country? You suggest that they should be denied a vote in the referendum?
It's no different to not allowing 16-year old people to vote. Many people who vote in the referendum will be dead when the real effects of the referendum kick-in.
What a complete simpleton you are.
Can you just ignore me please rather than constantly dripping your abuse on everything I post.
It would be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
Mrs Steve R
22-06-16, 15:06
great idea, lets leave our futures to the 18 yr olds bound to end well
My daughter is 24, I wouldn't let her vote either. :hehe:
Croesy Blue
22-06-16, 15:08
Can you just ignore me please rather than constantly dripping your abuse on everything I post.
It would be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
You asked for abuse by resorting to the lowest common denominator of an argument every time. It's like trying to have a discussion with the personification of the sun news paper.
You try and have an air of superiority on here but you are certainly one of the thickest on here.
I won't ignore you I enjoy the discussion, you are more than welcome to ignore me though pal.
My daughter is 24, I wouldn't let her vote either. :hehe:
interesting to discover what age th63 thinks is the cut off, lets ask him on Facebook, hold up :hehe:
Croesy Blue
22-06-16, 15:09
great idea, lets leave our futures to the 18 yr olds bound to end well
Can't be any worse than the state the baby boomers have left this country in for the young people today.
You asked for abuse by resorting to the lowest common denominator of an argument every time. It's like trying to have a discussion with the personification of the sun news paper.
You try and have an air of superiority on here but you are certainly one of the thickest on here.
I won't ignore you I enjoy the discussion, you are more than welcome to ignore me though pal.
Well if you have the inability to ignore me then at least have the decency not to throw abuse around overtime I post an opinion on here.
Thank you.
What, like people who have fought in wars for their country? You suggest that they should be denied a vote in the referendum?
In normal circumstances no, but in a general election you only have to live with the outcome of your vote for 4 years.
In this bad boy, it's an outcome that most of us will have to live with for the rest of our lives, in the case of someone who fought in WW2 and at least 90 years of age, it isn't a mistake they'd have to live with for that long.
I appreciate that sounds very callous, but it's true.
Personally, I would go further, and limit democracy in this case to anyone without a basic level of intelligence.
I'm thinking of Chris here.
Badly Ironed Shirt
22-06-16, 15:13
My daughter is 24, I wouldn't let her vote either. :hehe:
Thinly veiled "My daughter is voting In"...
interesting to discover what age th63 thinks is the cut off, lets ask him on Facebook, hold up :hehe:
How old is Mrs Steve R??? :hehe:
I'm not gonna risk taking that bullet on here!
Seriously though, I have relatives approaching 90, with strong Brexit views, which is fair enough, except by the time the dust settles on this referendum in a few years time, chances are they're not going to be here.
How old is Mrs Steve R??? :hehe:
I'm not gonna risk taking that bullet on here!
Seriously though, I have relatives approaching 90, with strong Brexit views, which is fair enough, except by the time the dust settles on this referendum in a few years time, chances are they're not going to be here.
none of us might be here in a few years though, who knows the future,
Croesy Blue
22-06-16, 15:20
Well if you have the inability to ignore me then at least have the decency not to throw abuse around overtime I post an opinion on here.
Thank you.
Get it a rest you spunk filled eclair
It's no different to not allowing 16-year old people to vote. Many people who vote in the referendum will be dead when the real effects of the referendum kick-in.
The irony is of course, that many people who did fight in WW2 were actually 16 at the time.
Jimmy the Jock
22-06-16, 15:38
In normal circumstances no, but in a general election you only have to live with the outcome of your vote for 4 years.
In this bad boy, it's an outcome that most of us will have to live with for the rest of our lives, in the case of someone who fought in WW2 and at least 90 years of age, it isn't a mistake they'd have to live with for that long.
I appreciate that sounds very callous, but it's true.
Personally, I would go further, and limit democracy in this case to anyone without a basic level of intelligence.
I'm thinking of Chris here.
Thickos and old people melted down for glue?
You could have something there.
What if they were "remain" old people?
Wales-Bales
22-06-16, 15:39
The irony is of course, that many people who did fight in WW2 were actually 16 at the time.
True, and they were fighting for their own futures, which depended on the outcome of the war.
Jimmy the Jock
22-06-16, 15:39
none of us might be here in a few years though, who knows the future,
Good point.
A health check and a letter from both parents saying you WILL live for the next 40 years before your vote counts.
Jimmy the Jock
22-06-16, 15:40
True, and they were fighting for their own futures, which depended on the outcome of the war.
So they have had their moment in the sun, no more votes for them.
Mrs Steve R
22-06-16, 15:41
interesting to discover what age th63 thinks is the cut off, lets ask him on Facebook, hold up :hehe:
:hehe: Don't start him off again.
Thinly veiled "My daughter is voting In"...
:hehe: she was still undecided yesterday, either way she has no idea what she is voting for.
How old is Mrs Steve R??? :hehe:
I'm not gonna risk taking that bullet on here!
Seriously though, I have relatives approaching 90, with strong Brexit views, which is fair enough, except by the time the dust settles on this referendum in a few years time, chances are they're not going to be here.
Mid 40's, I forget :hehe:
Get it a rest you spunk filled eclair
I'm never going to look at an eclair in the same way ever again. :hehe:
Croesy Blue
22-06-16, 15:43
I bet you never liked them before seeing that.
:hehe: Don't start him off again.
:hehe: she was still undecided yesterday, either way she has no idea what she is voting for.
Mid 40's, I forget :hehe:
I'm never going to look at an eclair in the same way ever again. :hehe:
You'd be lucky to get a 16 year old off their phone or tablet long enough for them to walk to a polling booth and vote :biggrin:
Get it a rest you spunk filled eclair
In order for you to insult me, I would first have to value your opinion.
Eric Cartman
22-06-16, 15:54
I faced a hysterical barrage of abuse from some of ccmb's resident elderly folk for taking this position about a year ago. In fact just a couple of days ago one of them accused me of wanting to 'kill all of the people who vote differently to me'
Isaac Hunt
22-06-16, 16:05
Been listening to youngsters views, and their difference of approach to the modern world which is a stark difference to the views to of the older older voters , its a pity they cannot vote on their immediate future , the government needs to look at itself on this one, as a missed opportunity .
Do me a favour, all the 16 year olds are worried about is if they can get roaming on their phones when they go abroad. Ask most of them to name the main politicians or what party is in power and they wouldn't have a clue. They could probably tell you whats going on in the soaps and big brother. Why not give the votes to 10 year olds as well, it's their future too FFS
Do me a favour, all the 16 year olds are worried about is if they can get roaming on their phones when they go abroad. Ask most of them to name the main politicians or what party is in power and they wouldn't have a clue. They could probably tell you whats going on in the soaps and big brother. Why not give the votes to 10 year olds as well, it's their future too FFS
Politics can affect daily life tho. Like the roaming can be determined by the EU
Ainsley Harriott
22-06-16, 16:40
Politics can affect daily life tho. Like the roaming can be determined by the EU
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Been listening to youngsters views, and their difference of approach to the modern world which is a stark difference to the views to of the older older voters , its a pity they cannot vote on their immediate future , the government needs to look at itself on this one, as a missed opportunity .
Have been saying this for months. Shocking from Cameron. He could at least have ensured 17 year olds got the vote in this. It could be very costly
Wishing young people (and for me it's 17 rather than 16 at this time) were more engaged in politics does not have to mean that older people should lose the vote. Surely the ideal would be governments having to address concerns of all ages rather that an older but nevertheless few* that determine each election.
*even better if those older few weren't an Australian famed for destructive and crude campaigning and an Australian-American media giant who is famed for playing to the lowest common denominator with judgement and little fact.
I'd allow 16 year olds to vote for a couple of reasons
1.The ones who do vote are likely to be interested in politics
2.Younger voters i.e 16-30 year olds are generally more informed than other demographics as they use the internet for informaiton and get information from a variety of sources
3.This affects them hugely
4.If they're old enough to work, they should be allowed to vote
I'd allow 16 year olds to vote for a couple of reasons
1.The ones who do vote are likely to be interested in politics
2.Younger voters i.e 16-30 year olds are generally more informed than other demographics as they use the internet for informaiton and get information from a variety of sources
3.This affects them hugely
4.If they're old enough to work, they should be allowed to vote
Good post.
Colonel Cærdiffi
22-06-16, 20:42
I'd allow 16 year olds to vote for a couple of reasons
1.The ones who do vote are likely to be interested in politics
2.Younger voters i.e 16-30 year olds are generally more informed than other demographics as they use the internet for informaiton and get information from a variety of sources
3.This affects them hugely
4.If they're old enough to work, they should be allowed to vote
Good post.
Is it? Because I'm older than 30 and I also use the internet for information and to be honest I'm none-the-wiser for it.
I'd allow 16 year olds to vote for a couple of reasons
1.The ones who do vote are likely to be interested in politics
2.Younger voters i.e 16-30 year olds are generally more informed than other demographics as they use the internet for informaiton and get information from a variety of sources
3.This affects them hugely
4.If they're old enough to work, they should be allowed to vote
The internet can open your mind but it can also funnel your views and (via social media) create an awful perception that almost everyone thinks the same as you.
I sometimes think that the only people that should be allowed to vote are those who for one reason or another aren't working full-time, as they are the only ones with the time to decipher the mountains of misinformation. If we had students, unemployed, young mothers, the wealthy and/or tired middle aged, the retired we may have a far more representative electorate than we have had recently.
Ainsley Harriott
22-06-16, 21:41
I'd allow 16 year olds to vote for a couple of reasons
1.The ones who do vote are likely to be interested in politics
2.Younger voters i.e 16-30 year olds are generally more informed than other demographics as they use the internet for informaiton and get information from a variety of sources
3.This affects them hugely
4.If they're old enough to work, they should be allowed to vote
Good post.
Is it? Because I'm older than 30 and I also use the internet for information and to be honest I'm none-the-wiser for it.
Most 16 year olds use the Internet solely to post dank memes to their Facebook
Is it? Because I'm older than 30 and I also use the internet for information and to be honest I'm none-the-wiser for it.
Yes it is in my view because It could impact upon their options to work/live in Europe. This Referendum will affect our youth for decades.
life on mars
23-06-16, 13:43
What, like people who have fought in wars for their country? You suggest that they should be denied a vote in the referendum?
Or be driving , or reading the Daily Mail
I faced a hysterical barrage of abuse from some of ccmb's resident elderly folk for taking this position about a year ago. In fact just a couple of days ago one of them accused me of wanting to 'kill all of the people who vote differently to me'
And I voted to remain as well.
If it wasn't you, someone said they thought everyone over the age of 75 should be euthanised. Im sure I apologised in that post if I was confusing you with someone else as well.
Stop acting like a hysterical housewife, you oestrogen filled lady man.
And I voted to remain as well.
If it wasn't you, someone said they thought everyone over the age of 75 should be euthanised. Im sure I apologised in that post if I was confusing you with someone else as well.
Stop acting like a hysterical housewife, you oestrogen filled lady man.
Although I now think you may have a point.
This may be a bit controversial, but I personally wouldn't allow anyone over a certain age to vote, on the basis that they won't be around to have to deal with the outcome.
It was the wrinklies wot flecked it.:hehe::thumbup:
It's a pity that the older generations have ****ed us young people again. Our world is different to your's, we find it hard to get opportunities such as housing, jobs, education
Little England keeps ****ing us over...
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