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alan_corneli
09-03-17, 20:40
Andreas Cornelius scored the winner against Ajax.

Guido Burgstaller has just scored for FC Schalke 04 against Borussia Monchengladbach. He joined Schalke in the January transfer window.

Of course, neither of them were good enough for us....

The Bloop
09-03-17, 21:15
Andreas Cornelius scored the winner against Ajax.

Guido Burgstaller has just scored for FC Schalke 04 against Borussia Monchengladbach. He joined Schalke in the January transfer window.

Of course, neither of them were good enough for us....

Burgstaller was good - we should have kept him.

Ainsley Harriott
09-03-17, 21:41
Burgstaller just hit the bar too (great shot deflected onto the woodwork by a Mönchengladbach defender). Could've made it 2-1 there. Schalke on top here.

Burgstaller is playing as the one up top with a man behind him according to my scores apps. Not quite the position Solskjær put him in...

Taunton Blue Genie
09-03-17, 22:00
Burgstaller just hit the bar too (great shot deflected onto the woodwork by a Mönchengladbach defender). Could've made it 2-1 there. Schalke on top here.

Burgstaller is playing as the one up top with a man behind him according to my scores apps. Not quite the position Solskjær put him in...

You know your umlauts and your dipthongs, young man....

life on mars
09-03-17, 22:04
Different world ,and pace, they struggle with the vigour and physicality of the championship ,if they were that good they would be earning serious bucks in the premiership which is the next skill step from where we apply our trade.

thehumblegringo
09-03-17, 22:14
No matter how much people bring it up Cornelius looked dreadful in his time here and he even run like Charlie Chaplin!
Charlie Nicholas said on Soccer Saturday about his chance vs West Ham that he heads the ball like he's got a crash helmet on!
Malky paid £10 million on one for the future for Cardiff ****ing City!

Burgstaller is a different matter altogether. Ole signed for a reasonable fee but then never gave him a chance to prove himself and he hardly kicked a ball for us. Then Russell came in and thought Alex Revell was a good player so i rest my case.

A Quiet Monkfish
09-03-17, 22:19
No matter how much people bring it up Cornelius looked dreadful in his time here and he even run like Charlie Chaplin!
Charlie Nicholas said on Soccer Saturday about his chance vs West Ham that he heads the ball like he's got a crash helmet on!
Malky paid £10 million on one for the future for Cardiff ****ing City!

Burgstaller is a different matter altogether. Ole signed for a reasonable fee but then never gave him a chance to prove himself and he hardly kicked a ball for us. Then Russell came in and thought Alex Revell was a good player so i rest my case.

I spoke with Cornelius outside the Boleyn Ground after the West Ham opener, asked him if he was going to be fit for the Man. City game. When he walked away I noticed he was knock-kneed. Looked really odd, especially a professional footballer ...

Rjk
09-03-17, 22:56
Different world ,and pace, they struggle with the vigour and physicality of the championship ,if they were that good they would be earning serious bucks in the premiership which is the next skill step from where we apply our trade.

The bundesliga is not played at a slower pace than the championship.

surge
09-03-17, 23:03
No matter how much people bring it up Cornelius looked dreadful in his time here and he even run like Charlie Chaplin!
Charlie Nicholas said on Soccer Saturday about his chance vs West Ham that he heads the ball like he's got a crash helmet on!
Malky paid £10 million on one for the future for Cardiff ****ing City!

Burgstaller is a different matter altogether. Ole signed for a reasonable fee but then never gave him a chance to prove himself and he hardly kicked a ball for us. Then Russell came in and thought Alex Revell was a good player so i rest my case.

A few years later and teams are paying 10 million (more than Cornelius) for championship players.

Pedro de la Rosa
10-03-17, 08:33
No matter how much people bring it up Cornelius looked dreadful in his time here and he even run like Charlie Chaplin!
Charlie Nicholas said on Soccer Saturday about his chance vs West Ham that he heads the ball like he's got a crash helmet on!
Malky paid £10 million on one for the future for Cardiff ****ing City!

Burgstaller is a different matter altogether. Ole signed for a reasonable fee but then never gave him a chance to prove himself and he hardly kicked a ball for us. Then Russell came in and thought Alex Revell was a good player so i rest my case.

A lot of the foreign lads didn't want to be here from day one and definitely didn't want to be here after Ole left. He'd have been on a wedge and we had to cut costs. The fact is, if Ole had played him and he played well, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Solksjaer is the worst manager we've had in a generation.

TH63
10-03-17, 08:35
A lot of the foreign lads didn't want to be here from day one and definitely didn't want to be here after Ole left. He'd have been on a wedge and we had to cut costs. The fact is, if Ole had played him and he played well, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Solksjaer is the worst manager we've had in a generation.

Trollope? Durban???

Jimmy the Jock
10-03-17, 08:44
Trollope? Durban???

You appear to have a thing about Trollope. Agree wasnt a great manager but a very good coach I reckon.
If he had got it right we would have been playing with more style.

Had some of the best laughs at Burton away when the fans were singing "you're getting sacked in the morning" at him

That was the Cardiff fans and "we had a shot" in the 85th minute. Black humour.

thehumblegringo
10-03-17, 09:17
A few years later and teams are paying 10 million (more than Cornelius) for championship players.


That's besides the point.

A) Three years seems to be a long time these days and i think the continual waste of money on Mccormack and Rhodes is ridiculous too.
B) We could have and should have signed someone like Danny Ings if we wanted to sign someone for the future for about 2 million.
C) Nobody in their right mind would spend near enough 1/3 of their budget on a striker for the future when we were in desperate need for a striker there and then. (However i don't believe for a minute malky signed Cornelius for the future, but just realised the error he had made)

Pedro de la Rosa
10-03-17, 09:20
Trollope? Durban???

Trollope didn't piss £20m up the wall on players that didn't want to be here. Durban was sacked 31 years ago, which is why I said generation. OGS is half the reason why we're in this FFP mess and left us with the likes of Adeyemi and Macheda on long term, big money deals.

Pedro de la Rosa
10-03-17, 09:23
That's besides the point.

A) Three years seems to be a long time these days and i think the continual waste of money on Mccormack and Rhodes is ridiculous too.
B) We could have and should have signed someone like Danny Ings if we wanted to sign someone for the future for about 2 million.
C) Nobody in their right mind would spend near enough 1/3 of their budget on a striker for the future when we were in desperate need for a striker there and then. (However i don't believe for a minute malky signed Cornelius for the future, but just realised the error he had made)

We needed a striker for Malky's style of play and he gambled. It was naive and wrong, and I really hope it was above board. Having said that, whatever scout watched him play should have been sacked on the spot. I have never, ever seen a player look so out of his depth. It was embarrassing. Maybe he couldn't give a toss, but everything looked off. His running style, first touch, that "header", his shooting. Abysmal.

Also, £8m then, as you said was like £20m now. It was (and is) serious money.

Rjk
10-03-17, 09:48
Just saw burgstallers finish against monchengladbach, he looked a real handful.

TH63
10-03-17, 09:50
You appear to have a thing about Trollope. Agree wasnt a great manager but a very good coach I reckon.
If he had got it right we would have been playing with more style.

Had some of the best laughs at Burton away when the fans were singing "you're getting sacked in the morning" at him

That was the Cardiff fans and "we had a shot" in the 85th minute. Black humour.

Yeah, I think he probably was a good coach, certainly there was a noticeable improvement when he joined our Russ on the touchline, and even as manager, with his experience with Wales, I had high hopes. Maybe too high, but he inherited a team that finished eighth the previous season and won two out of twelve matches.

Jimmy the Jock
10-03-17, 10:06
Yeah, I think he probably was a good coach, certainly there was a noticeable improvement when he joined our Russ on the touchline, and even as manager, with his experience with Wales, I had high hopes. Maybe too high, but he inherited a team that finished eighth the previous season and won two out of twelve matches.

Makes him look like Pep compared to Zola.

*** G L O V E S ***
10-03-17, 11:41
We needed a striker for Malky's style of play and he gambled. It was naive and wrong, and I really hope it was above board. Having said that, whatever scout watched him play should have been sacked on the spot. I have never, ever seen a player look so out of his depth. It was embarrassing. Maybe he couldn't give a toss, but everything looked off. His running style, first touch, that "header", his shooting. Abysmal.

Also, £8m then, as you said was like £20m now. It was (and is) serious money.


A weekly reminder that Cornelius was given 107 minutes' playing time in the league while at Cardiff. One hundred and seven minutes - a little over a game of football, while carrying an injury.

Rjk
10-03-17, 13:05
A weekly reminder that Cornelius was given 107 minutes' playing time in the league while at Cardiff. One hundred and seven minutes - a little over a game of football, while carrying an injury.

107 minutes playing for a team that was in free fall, who were trying to use him to hold the ball up which isn't his game.

alan_corneli
10-03-17, 13:11
I spoke with Cornelius outside the Boleyn Ground after the West Ham opener, asked him if he was going to be fit for the Man. City game. When he walked away I noticed he was knock-kneed. Looked really odd, especially a professional footballer ...

Garrincha was like that - knock-kneed.

Llanedeyrnblue
10-03-17, 13:22
Andreas Cornelius scored the winner against Ajax.

Guido Burgstaller has just scored for FC Schalke 04 against Borussia Monchengladbach. He joined Schalke in the January transfer window.

Of course, neither of them were good enough for us....

I watched Cornelius in a kick in once he was absolute shite I wouldn't have paid him in washers, at the time getting rid of him was the correct decision

WJ99mobile
10-03-17, 13:38
You appear to have a thing about Trollope. Agree wasnt a great manager but a very good coach I reckon.
If he had got it right we would have been playing with more style.

Had some of the best laughs at Burton away when the fans were singing "you're getting sacked in the morning" at him

That was the Cardiff fans and "we had a shot" in the 85th minute. Black humour.

But Trollope was our manager and probably the worst of my time supporter City.

Pedro de la Rosa
10-03-17, 13:55
A weekly reminder that Cornelius was given 107 minutes' playing time in the league while at Cardiff. One hundred and seven minutes - a little over a game of football, while carrying an injury.

You can watch a player and think, OK, he's not up to full speed etc. Cornelius looked like he had no idea what he was doing. His touch was horrible (that is a good sign of a player) and his shooting in drills etc was hideous. Bellamy also called him a disgrace regarding his professionalism. I think I'm a half decent judge of a player and he didn't have it. His 1 in 4 record in Denmark for by far the best team in the country is testament to the fact he's not all that either.

Pedro de la Rosa
10-03-17, 13:56
But Trollope was our manager and probably the worst of my time supporter City.

Worse than OGS?

BlueArmy 86
10-03-17, 18:43
You can watch a player and think, OK, he's not up to full speed etc. Cornelius looked like he had no idea what he was doing. His touch was horrible (that is a good sign of a player) and his shooting in drills etc was hideous. Bellamy also called him a disgrace regarding his professionalism. I think I'm a half decent judge of a player and he didn't have it. His 1 in 4 record in Denmark for by far the best team in the country is testament to the fact he's not all that either.

He's suffered a few bad injuries as well, so you can guarantee that the 1 in 4 games has a whole lot of sub appearances..

The guy is scoring in the latter stages of the Europa league and people still think he can't play. All from 107 bit part minutes, and him shooting in a warm up. Its probably the same people who said Zohore is not a footballer a few months ago.

Rjk
10-03-17, 21:42
He's suffered a few bad injuries as well, so you can guarantee that the 1 in 4 games has a whole lot of sub appearances..

The guy is scoring in the latter stages of the Europa league and people still think he can't play. All from 107 bit part minutes, and him shooting in a warm up. Its probably the same people who said Zohore is not a footballer a few months ago.

And his record is not 1 in 4, it is 1 in 3 and this season 1 in 2