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Michael Morris
23-11-17, 21:58
Scored two in the last few mins at the end of the Europa League game v Everton.

FT Everton 1 - 5 Atalanta
G rangetown Blue
23-11-17, 22:02
Another cameo from the "Captain of Wales"!:facepalm:
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 22:04
To be fair it was only against Everton.

Still, I’m sure it will give a certain aUtHor enough ammo to bash Tan for the rest of the week, possibly two.
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 22:05
Another cameo from the "Captain of Wales"!:facepalm:
Rather sadly as soon as he gave the pen I thought of you posting on here tonight 😂
The Bob Banker Spanker
23-11-17, 22:06
Another cameo from the "Captain of Wales"!:facepalm:
:hehe:
I don’t think he’ll be a first teamer for Wales much longer, knocking on a bit and his club form has been awful this season. Bale or Rambo will get the armband hopefully.
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 22:10
:hehe:
I don’t think he’ll be a first teamer for Wales much longer, knocking on a bit and his club form has been awful this season. Bale or Rambo will get the armband hopefully.

Until we have a capable centre half to replace him he will soldier on.

Shame Ginge has turned his back on his country. Again.
G rangetown Blue
23-11-17, 22:15
Rather sadly as soon as he gave the pen I thought of you posting on here tonight ��

Mike started it! :hehe:
ccfc_is_my_life
23-11-17, 22:18
Until we have a capable centre half to replace him he will soldier on.

Shame Ginge has turned his back on his country. Again.

Ampadu possibly.

Ginge is past it at international level.
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 22:19
Ampadu possibly.

Ginge is past it at international level.
He’s got another campaign in him
ccfc_is_my_life
23-11-17, 22:21
He’s got another campaign in him

Ginge? Nah. Williams is in decline, Ginge is further down that road.
G rangetown Blue
23-11-17, 22:22
Until we have a capable centre half to replace him he will soldier on.

Shame Ginge has turned his back on his country. Again.

'Ginge',unfortunately, has a recurring injury problem, which is a shame, as he could have / should have captained HIS country a lot more.

Collins has never "turned his back on his country", so that's quite a pathetic statement really,and should be retracted immediately.
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 22:26
'Ginge',unfortunately, has a recurring injury problem, which is a shame, as he could have / should have captained HIS country a lot more.

Collins has never "turned his back on his country", so that's quite a pathetic statement really,and should be retracted immediately.

Turned his back on his country twice and that’s a fact
G rangetown Blue
23-11-17, 22:29
:hehe:
I don’t think he’ll be a first teamer for Wales much longer, knocking on a bit and his club form has been awful this season. Bale or Rambo will get the armband hopefully.

Williams has been brutally exposed since teams started pressing defenders, and not allowing them to pass it around their full backs and GK, something Williams excelled at with the Jacks. He's a phoney, like some (especially one!) on here.
G rangetown Blue
23-11-17, 22:34
Turned his back on his country twice and that’s a fact

He never, although he should have!
He should have quit all together,for being overlooked for a second rate rejected Englishman, who couldn't lace his boots!
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 22:51
He never, although he should have!
He should have quit all together,for being overlooked for a second rate rejected Englishman, who couldn't lace his boots!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24042840

With that attitude it’s no wonder he had to play second fiddle. That’s not the behaviour of a captain.
Llanedeyrnblue
23-11-17, 23:00
Williams has been brutally exposed since teams started pressing defenders, and not allowing them to pass it around their full backs and GK, something Williams excelled at with the Jacks. He's a phoney, like some (especially one!) on here.

I’m sure we’ll find another English born CB to replace him so cheer up
J R Hartley
23-11-17, 23:11
Ginge? Nah. Williams is in decline, Ginge is further down that road.
I know. I’m just humouring his no.1 fan.
ccfc_is_my_life
23-11-17, 23:12
I know. I’m just humouring his no.1 fan.

Ah. As you were then.
Cleve van Leef
24-11-17, 08:43
So Malky was right, he was one for the future.
Rjk
24-11-17, 09:13
So Malky was right, he was one for the future.

Of course he was, but do you really think malky spent £8 million on him and gave him the number 9 shirt for him to make a few cameos ?
Malky rolled the dice and lost on that one, then tried to cover his arse by saying it was a signing for the future.

If we had played to his strengths and he hadn't have been injured then who knows it could have worked out differently
Cleve van Leef
24-11-17, 09:30
Of course he was, but do you really think malky spent £8 million on him and gave him the number 9 shirt for him to make a few cameos ?
Malky rolled the dice and lost on that one, then tried to cover his arse by saying it was a signing for the future.

If we had played to his strengths and he hadn't have been injured then who knows it could have worked out differently

Tongue in cheek posting.
Badly Ironed Shirt
24-11-17, 09:33
Of course he was, but do you really think malky spent £8 million on him and gave him the number 9 shirt for him to make a few cameos ?
Malky rolled the dice and lost on that one, then tried to cover his arse by saying it was a signing for the future.

If we had played to his strengths and he hadn't have been injured then who knows it could have worked out differently

If Tan had been more supportive instead of using him as the public scapegoat, then it would also have helped.
G rangetown Blue
24-11-17, 09:37
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24042840

With that attitude it’s no wonder he had to play second fiddle. That’s not the behaviour of a captain.

That was after Coleman hadn't even picked him (our most experienced, highest scoring, Premier league defender), in his original squad!

Like I said, I would have told Coleman where to go long before Collins did!
dembethewarrior
24-11-17, 10:27
To be fair it was only against Everton.

Still, I’m sure it will give a certain aUtHor enough ammo to bash Tan for the rest of the week, possibly two.

Same people that said Cornelius couldn't roll the ball into an empty net will all claim Tan is a menace over there. Not so much as clicked on there in weeks. Used to have the occasional nose on a weekly/monthly basis.

Strikers are all about confidence. For whatever reason he visibly had none, big fee, possibility of being responsible for goals for a team new to the league, big move on his own.. whatever the reason..I remember being excited we had him (mind boggled at the price as I'd seen 1m and no more than 5m quoted) he didnt do it for us, hes managed to go to a decent Italian outfit and score goals...good on him.
J R Hartley
24-11-17, 10:32
That was after Coleman hadn't even picked him (our most experienced, highest scoring, Premier league defender), in his original squad!

Like I said, I would have told Coleman where to go long before Collins did!

If you are captain of your country then you cant have the attitude displayed by Ginge. He has every right to be dissapointed by nbot being in the squad of course, but sulking, thats unproffesional. Colemans actions were justified as he was obviously dropped in the first place for his attitude, not his ability.

When you compare that attitude to that of England captains such as David Beckham, and Wayne Rooney, both of whom were dropped and forced their way back into squads admirably, not to mention the dogs abuse they received off some sections of the fans and media, then you cant possibly make a case for Ginge being an international captain.

Ashley Williams, an Englishman, has been far more commited to the Welsh cause than a so-called Welshman, Collins has been over the years.
dembethewarrior
24-11-17, 10:34
'Ginge',unfortunately, has a recurring injury problem, which is a shame, as he could have / should have captained HIS country a lot more.

Collins has never "turned his back on his country", so that's quite a pathetic statement really,and should be retracted immediately.

https://youtu.be/m_9ANmv1fik

Never gonna happen
dembethewarrior
24-11-17, 10:34
If Tan had been more supportive instead of using him as the public scapegoat, then it would also have helped.

How about THE MANAGER THAT BOUGHT HIM PLAYING HIM?
Badly Ironed Shirt
24-11-17, 11:46
How about THE MANAGER THAT BOUGHT HIM PLAYING HIM?

What about him? Cornelius was injured at the time Tan started slating him. Young lad, foreign country, big price tag - getting publicly slated by the owner. Great help that was.
Croesy Blue
24-11-17, 12:01
If you are captain of your country then you cant have the attitude displayed by Ginge. He has every right to be dissapointed by nbot being in the squad of course, but sulking, thats unproffesional. Colemans actions were justified as he was obviously dropped in the first place for his attitude, not his ability.

When you compare that attitude to that of England captains such as David Beckham, and Wayne Rooney, both of whom were dropped and forced their way back into squads admirably, not to mention the dogs abuse they received off some sections of the fans and media, then you cant possibly make a case for Ginge being an international captain.

Ashley Williams, an Englishman, has been far more commited to the Welsh cause than a so-called Welshman, Collins has been over the years.

Agree completely with this.
ccfc_is_my_life
24-11-17, 12:09
Same people that said Cornelius couldn't roll the ball into an empty net will all claim Tan is a menace over there. Not so much as clicked on there in weeks. Used to have the occasional nose on a weekly/monthly basis.

Strikers are all about confidence. For whatever reason he visibly had none, big fee, possibility of being responsible for goals for a team new to the league, big move on his own.. whatever the reason..I remember being excited we had him (mind boggled at the price as I'd seen 1m and no more than 5m quoted) he didnt do it for us, hes managed to go to a decent Italian outfit and score goals...good on him.

Well.. as I showed before, he'd not completed a full game for Atalanta - a few starts only to be subbed off, sub appearances with few goals. That was a week or so ago tho so probably dated by now.

If we'd got him for £1m as a prospect for the future on a far smaller salary, we'd have had time to have developed him.
Vimto
24-11-17, 12:28
Ifs and buts.
I'm sure Corny is a decent prospect these days.

Cheeky bid Neil?!

Whoa! .. not now Kato
dembethewarrior
24-11-17, 12:56
What about him? Cornelius was injured at the time Tan started slating him. Young lad, foreign country, big price tag - getting publicly slated by the owner. Great help that was.

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NYCBlue
24-11-17, 14:44
Can we at least just agree that Cornelius came good and Ashley Williams is ****ing shit? The facts seem to bear it out.
Pedro de la Rosa
24-11-17, 15:24
That was after Coleman hadn't even picked him (our most experienced, highest scoring, Premier league defender), in his original squad!

Like I said, I would have told Coleman where to go long before Collins did!

Collins dropped out of squads constantly.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/james-collins-withdrawal-familiar-story-1794866
G rangetown Blue
25-11-17, 16:43
Obviously Collins, like myself, didn't rate Coleman as a manager, or a man, and that may have been a factor.

The way Collins plays, he was always liable to aggravate his injurys, and some players struggle to play two games in a few days, a bit like Giggs. That said, neither player ever missed an important game for Wales, just friendlies and 'dead rubbers'.

Collins is a proud Welshmen, and obviously wanted to play as much as possible, he said so himself:
"I am obviously gutted to miss out for Wales because I want to play every game if I can.”

Maybe he was just lying?:shrug:
mike downtownabbey
25-11-17, 17:53
Obviously Collins, like myself, didn't rate Coleman as a manager, or a man, and that may have been a factor.

The way Collins plays, he was always liable to aggravate his injurys, and some players struggle to play two games in a few days, a bit like Giggs. That said, neither player ever missed an important game for Wales, just friendlies and 'dead rubbers'.

Collins is a proud Welshmen, and obviously wanted to play as much as possible, he said so himself:
"I am obviously gutted to miss out for Wales because I want to play every game if I can.”

Maybe he was just lying?:shrug:

Cornelius not collins
James fox
25-11-17, 23:25
If Tan had been more supportive instead of using him as the public scapegoat, then it would also have helped.

You did not see him play then.
Out of his depth.
life on mars
26-11-17, 00:02
How about THE MANAGER THAT BOUGHT HIM PLAYING HIM?

How about a manager who could not spot a striker of similar ilk in his own squad
NYCBlue
26-11-17, 00:52
You did not see him play then.
Out of his depth.

His form before and after seems to contradict that. And he's still only 24. Let's see how he does in the World Cup.
BLUETIT
26-11-17, 08:54
His form before and after seems to contradict that. And he's still only 24. Let's see how he does in the World Cup.

Lets hope the lad doesn't suffer with piles. :hehe::hehe: