F1 Grid Girls Binned

[Wales-Bales]

How are they going to eat and pay their rent?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261

[jamieccfc]

The world's gone mad everyone being cautious now

[BlueArmy 86]

They'll be banning the bluebird mascot next for showing too much beak!

[Wales-Bales]

First they came for the Page 3 Girls
Then they came for the Darts Girls
Then they came for the F1 Grid Girls

Who's next?

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

These poor women who’s choice it is to do this work are now jobless.

[jeepster]

These poor women who’s choice it is to do this work are now jobless.

Spot on they are not forced in to doing the job.

[Tuerto]

How are they going to eat and pay their rent?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261

It's a worry, the streets are already lined with homeless and hungry page three girls.

[Wales-Bales]

It's a worry, the streets are already lined with homeless and hungry page three girls.
No they're not, half of them are living at my place :wink:

[jamieccfc]

No they're not, half of them are living at my place :wink:

I was just thinking WTF I haven't seen any

[Mrs Steve R]

No they're not, half of them are living at my place :wink:
You wish :biggrin:

Another one of those lovely spiked stories for you. :thumbup:
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/in-defence-of-the-walk-on-girls/20964#.WnNB-VSFg3g

[Wales-Bales]

You wish :biggrin:

Another one of those lovely spiked stories for you. :thumbup:
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/in-defence-of-the-walk-on-girls/20964#.WnNB-VSFg3g
What about strippers and lap dancers? Should they be flashing their bits in public for money?

[MacAdder]

The world's gone mad everyone being cautious now

The elephant in the room? :shrug:

[Rjk]

I don't get the outrage, it's not as though "the powers that be" have forced F1 into this, they've just made a decision that works for them.

The grid girls are there to attract people to the sport, and make it seem glamorous. the world has changed though, and these days it doesn't have the same effect, to some it seems tacky and it probably puts off as many people as it brings in.

So why should F1 continue paying their wages when they are no longer effective?

Should we force F1 to keep them employed to satisfy the sensitive souls who are struggling to deal with the modern world?

[BLUETIT]

Well these better not be touring anytime soon, or the snowflakes will frigging go into meltdown:

http://www.chippendales.com/
:hehe::hehe:

[Brian]

Listened to a bit of a debate on radio 5 earlier and someone made the point that Little Mix for example are far more sexual and provocative that the F1 girls but no calls to ban these yet.

[Tuerto]

Well these better not be touring anytime soon, or the snowflakes will frigging go into meltdown:

http://www.chippendales.com/
:hehe::hehe:

Did you reserve your tickets?

[Rjk]

Listened to a bit of a debate on radio 5 earlier and someone made the point that Little Mix for example are far more sexual and provocative that the F1 girls but no calls to ban these yet.

I haven't heard anyone calling for the grid girls to be banned? F1 just decided they didn't want them and a bunch of people couldn't cope with it

[MacAdder]

Listened to a bit of a debate on radio 5 earlier and someone made the point that Little Mix for example are far more sexual and provocative that the F1 girls but no calls to ban these yet.

Aye. Listen to many lady's lyrics these days and some are nothing short of pornographic.

Lucky Mike Reid ain't DJ-ing on mainstream radio any more, he wouldn't have a scooby what to play! :hehe:

[Barry Shitpeas]

I haven't heard anyone calling for the grid girls to be banned? F1 just decided they didn't want them and a bunch of people couldn't cope with it

Yeah but you shouldn’t let that get in the way of a “next they’ll be banning .......” “this country’s going to hell in a handcart” , “it’s pc gawn mad” Jeremy Vine show style ill informed rant.

[Tuerto]

Aye. Listen to many lady's lyrics these days and some are nothing short of pornographic.

Lucky Mike Reid ain't DJ-ing on mainstream radio any more, he wouldn't have a scooby what to play! :hehe:

He could play his very own song 'ukip calypso' also sung in a faux Jamaican accent.

[Mrs Steve R]

What about strippers and lap dancers? Should they be flashing their bits in public for money?
They are their bits they can do what they like with them, the feminists don't like that though, F1 say it's their own decision but I bet you they have been bombarding them with complaints like they do with everyone else who does not go along with their weird views.

[Des Parrot]

My wife is an ex grid girl (& beauty queen) that's how I met her when I was pit crew at (motorcycle) race meetings. Many of the grid girls at BSB, WSBK etc. are the riders wives or girlfriends, how are they going to stop them? assuming two wheels will follow suit.

My favourite tweet so far.
https://twitter.com/stuarthiggs/status/958817888307154945

[Tuerto]

They are their bits they can do what they like with them, the feminists don't like that though, F1 say it's their own decision but I bet you they have been bombarding them with complaints like they do with everyone else who does not go along with their weird views.

So, you reckon that the hugely powerful F1 franchise has succumbed to complaints from feminists ( probably not a priority in target audience)

[stevebrickman]

My wife is an ex grid girl (& beauty queen) that's how I met her when I was pit crew at (motorcycle) race meetings. Many of the grid girls at BSB, WSBK etc. are the riders wives or girlfriends, how are they going to stop them? assuming two wheels will follow suit.

My favourite tweet so far.
https://twitter.com/stuarthiggs/status/958817888307154945

Thinly veiled "my mrs is mint" post.

[Des Parrot]

Thinly veiled "my mrs is mint" post.


Maybe 35 years ago ..... :yikes::hide:

[stevebrickman]

Maybe 35 years ago ..... :yikes::hide:

:hehe:

[City123]

Thinly veiled "my mrs is mint" post.
Beat me to it

[City123]

You wish :biggrin:

Another one of those lovely spiked stories for you. :thumbup:
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/in-defence-of-the-walk-on-girls/20964#.WnNB-VSFg3g
Are Spiked still classed as controversial/contrarian even though you know they'll always post the contrary view in their articles?

[Mrs Steve R]

So, you reckon that the hugely powerful F1 franchise has succumbed to complaints from feminists ( probably not a priority in target audience)
These people will happily distort science so I'm sure they would have a go at F1
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-soh-trans-feminism-anti-science-20170210-story.html

I'm not saying that's what happened but it wouldn't surprise me if it had, I follow lots of feminism pages and they are always having a go at someone, they are turning on themselves now by boycotting their own marches. :shrug:

[Wales-Bales]

My wife is an ex grid girl
My ex wife is a grid girl.

I kicked her out today, now that she can no longer pay her way!

[Blooburd]

tbh I can see where hes going with this, any boring old sod who gets his rocks off watching a bunch of paper cars fly around a circular track like 100 times isn't going to be thinking anything more than "get on with it!!" when some tarts walk down the speedway. It's just a waste of money

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

You shouldn't mix sport with masturbation. Mixed doubles can leave a man very confused.

[Wales-Bales]

Is there any truth to the rumour that Churchill Way is going to be renamed Snowflake Way?

[Rjk]

Is there any truth to the rumour that Churchill Way is going to be renamed Snowflake Way?

I think it's quite obvious who the snowflakes are in this instance.

[life on mars]

Spot on they are not forced in to doing the job.

Well as long as the wealthy liberal elite can gaze out of there well
groomed house through rose tinted spectacles,there probaly the same lot who want us to open up our borders as long as they don't live near the Impact on thier communities.

[dembethewarrior]

First they came for the Page 3 Girls
Then they came for the Darts Girls
Then they came for the F1 Grid Girls

Who's next?

The girls that can't pull off the revealing outfits they think they can get away with wearing in South Wales town centres on a weekend. Enough to make a man want to put down his beer and go home sometimes.

[CardiffIrish2]

If a younger lady wishes to take part in such a job then that’s her decision and it seems that people can find fault in anything these days or have some faux outrage.

What I agree with is though is that that the bosses of formula one that multi million if not billion industry probably didn’t go all Germaine Greer, start playing ‘Sisters are doing it for themsleves’ And think yeah they’ve got a point, right on Sisters.

I think they’ve their own reasons probably along the lines of tackiness as stated above as opposed to what a few people write on Twitter.

[The Bloop]

Now that a load of women will no longer be working in F1, the next thing will be a campaign to get more women employed in F1 because of the male imbalance in the industry.

[BLUETIT]

Have Crystal Palarse pulled their's yet ?

[Auntie Andy]

Dirty old men leering at beautiful young women. Nice!

Women are being positioned as an embellishment to a sport. Nice!

The following statement sums the situation up perfectly.

“Sport mirrors and magnifies society. If we depict women in sport in a way that reinforces a narrow stereotype, we add to the pressure young girls in particular feel to look and act a certain way. If we depict women in a central, powerful and sporting role, we create a positive, modern and accurate image to inspire others.”

[BLUETIT]

It'll be back to this soon:----

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-news-photo/526306634?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect#two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-while-on-a-picture-id526306634

[Brian]

It'll be back to this soon:----

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-news-photo/526306634?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect#two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-while-on-a-picture-id526306634

Shame on you. Utter filth, there's children read this board.

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

It'll be back to this soon:----

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-news-photo/526306634?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect#two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-while-on-a-picture-id526306634

It’ll be more like the pot noodle advert
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*Z08nzuji_9uLtBhKJoTvKQ.jpeg

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

It'll be back to this soon:----

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-news-photo/526306634?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect#two-women-pull-up-their-dresses-to-keep-from-getting-wet-while-on-a-picture-id526306634

It’ll be more like the pot noodle advert
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6400605.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Michael-Moran.jpg

[J R Hartley]

Some girls are sporty, some aspire to be models, some like to get glammed up and parade themselves, some get a kick out of being objectified by men. Why should it be up to a certain section of these women, the feminist nazis, that decide what can and cant go for all women?

[J R Hartley]

Dirty old men leering at beautiful young women. Nice!

Women are being positioned as an embellishment to a sport. Nice!

The following statement sums the situation up perfectly.

“Sport mirrors and magnifies society. If we depict women in sport in a way that reinforces a narrow stereotype, we add to the pressure young girls in particular feel to look and act a certain way. If we depict women in a central, powerful and sporting role, we create a positive, modern and accurate image to inspire others.”

Rubbish. None of these girls who have lost their job said they feel pressured in anyway, they are absolutely gutted to lose large parts of their modelling income.

I dont hear any calls to ban David Gandy and David Beckham off the undercrackers adverts to stop women oggling and objectifying them. :rollseyes:

[Auntie Andy]

Where did I say in my post that the girls were being pressured??

Why in today’s day and age in sport do we have to have women wearing next to nothing draped over cars etc.

As a woman who absolutely loves sport, it doesn’t sit comfortable with me.

However I am NOT some kind of looney feminist I just feel that it’s not necessary.

[J R Hartley]

Where did I say in my post that the girls were being pressured??

Why in today’s day and age in sport do we have to have women wearing next to nothing draped over cars etc.

As a woman who absolutely loves sport, it doesn’t sit comfortable with me.

However I am NOT some kind of looney feminist I just feel that it’s not necessary.

Erm, the statement you quoted (which you said "sums it up perfectly") states "we add to the pressure young girls in particular feel to look and act a certain way".

Whatever next? Ban womens beach volleyball because they wear next to nothing?

If it was up to the fat, ugly, jealous, nazi feminists no doubt they would!!

[dembethewarrior]

Where did I say in my post that the girls were being pressured??

Why in today’s day and age in sport do we have to have women wearing next to nothing draped over cars etc.

As a woman who absolutely loves sport, it doesn’t sit comfortable with me.

However I am NOT some kind of looney feminist I just feel that it’s not necessary.

We'd better start putting t-shirts on those male models then in the boxer adverts.

May as well throw a vest on AJ when he boxes too judging by the drooling women over my Instagram (the kind that if it was a bloke to a woman would be reported)

Anyone think of any more?

In fact they ought to have a man stood there fully dressed holding a pair of boxer shorts, after all the majority of men the advert is aimed at don't want to see a man half naked do they..another advert indirectly on t.v. f9rbthe pleasure of oggling women.

[J R Hartley]

We'd better start putting t-shirts on those male models then in the boxer adverts.

May as well throw a vest on AJ when he boxes too judging by the drooling women over my Instagram (the kind that if it was a bloke to a woman would be reported)

Anyone think of any more?

In fact they ought to have a man stood there fully dressed holding a pair of boxer shorts, after all the majority of men the advert is aimed at don't want to see a man half naked do they..another advert indirectly on t.v. f9rbthe pleasure of oggling women.

Boxers should be made to wear black tie attire like snooker players

[Auntie Andy]

Great idea. I’m with you on all the above points. The sooner we stop sexualising people the better.

[dembethewarrior]

Great idea. I’m with you on all the above points. The sooner we stop sexualising people the better.

Except there is nothing really wrong with ring girls. There is no need to see a half naked man selling boxers either, but also nothing really wrong with it.

[J R Hartley]

Great idea. I’m with you on all the above points. The sooner we stop sexualising people the better.

Just go the whole hog and ban sex altogether and in 80 years or so the world can end.

[J R Hartley]

Except there is nothing really wrong with ring girls. There is no need to see a half naked man selling boxers either, but also nothing really wrong with it.

They werent harming anybody. Swear they were walking around naked.

[Rjk]

"Nazi feminists" don't run or have much in the way of influence over formula one.
They've clearly just made this decision because it was no longer worthwhile wasting their money paying models to stand by the cars.
No amount of frothing at the mouth by the hard of thinking on here, means that this is not true.

[Mrs Steve R]

Except there is nothing really wrong with ring girls. There is no need to see a half naked man selling boxers either, but also nothing really wrong with it.
As I said previously..When men being attracted to women is not a societal norm it's time to worry, the idea that men are "dirty" for being attracted to beautiful women is outrageous imo.

[dembethewarrior]

They werent harming anybody. Swear they were walking around naked.

They take them out of darts I'll have no reason to watch that either. Madness.

[dembethewarrior]

As I said previously..When men being attracted to women is not a societal norm it's time to worry, the idea that men are "dirty" for being attracted to beautiful women is outrageous imo.

I agree and vice versa.

It's the people who make out it's "sexualising women/men" that have the issue.

[J R Hartley]

"Nazi feminists" don't run or have much in the way of influence over formula one.
They've clearly just made this decision because it was no longer worthwhile wasting their money paying models to stand by the cars.
No amount of frothing at the mouth by the hard of thinking on here, means that this is not true.

Yes, of course its nothing to do with those making the most noise about it, all just to do with the F1 bosses alll of a sudden deciding to pinch the smallest of pennies in a multi-billion pound industry. I know how we can save a few hundred quid. Lets stop employing the models. LOL.

They made the decision on the back of the outrage caused by the darts girls, and decided its not worth the bad press from the vocal minority.

Nazi feminists win the day. Hooray.

[ian gibson]

How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Twelve:

One to screw it in.

One to excoriate men for creating the need for illumination.

One to blame men for inventing such a faulty means of illumination.

One to suggest the whole "screwing" bit to be too "rape-like".

One to deconstruct the lightbulb itself as being phallic.

One to blame men for not changing the bulb.

One to blame men for trying to change the bulb instead of letting a woman do it.

One to blame men for creating a society that discourages women from changing light bulbs.

One to blame men for creating a society where women change too many light bulbs.

One to advocate that light bulb changers should have wage parity with electricians.

One to alert the media that women are now "out-lightbulbing" men.

One to just sit there taking pictures for her blog for photo-evidence that men are unnecessary.

[Mrs Steve R]

I agree and vice versa.

It's the people who make out it's "sexualising women/men" that have the issue.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055978_934302743383832_7816851959071593254_n.jpg ?oh=184f813b57320a40c096190e369ba46b&oe=5ADF018C

[J R Hartley]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055978_934302743383832_7816851959071593254_n.jpg ?oh=184f813b57320a40c096190e369ba46b&oe=5ADF018C

Whos the 2nd from the right, in the pink dress?

[J R Hartley]

The NF's will be after the game show girls next. They better leave Rachel Riley alone or ill lose my shit.

2109

[Mrs Steve R]

Whos the 2nd from the right, in the pink dress?
No idea, sorry :hehe:


The NF's will be after the game show girls next. They better leave Rachel Riley alone or ill lose my shit.

2109
:hehe:

[dembethewarrior]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055978_934302743383832_7816851959071593254_n.jpg ?oh=184f813b57320a40c096190e369ba46b&oe=5ADF018C

My niece had Geordie shore on here after school Monday afternoon, one of them had a "feminist" tshirt on....is she ****.

Another woman who's picture I'd have to find was saying the same about sexualising women..there's a picture of her on an expensive boat lying down showing off her arse in a small bikini.

[joecity]

If a women wants to stand holding an umbrella by s stationery car that you couldn't drive down a street with speed bumps and couldn't fill up in your local petrol station then why not jump on board and make a few quid out the make believe.

If a women had yo stand with an umbrella over my crappy old car when I'm off out then yes ban it.

[ian gibson]

Yesterday a bloke on the train had a t-shirt on that read "This is what a feminist looks like",
and sure enough he had a flat chest and facial hair.

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

Whos the 2nd from the right, in the pink dress?
Katharine McPhee

[jamieccfc]

Yesterday a bloke on the train had a t-shirt on that read "This is what a feminist looks like",
and sure enough he had a flat chest and facial hair.

:hehe:

[J R Hartley]

Katharine McPhee

Very Noice!

[Auntie Andy]

Very Noice!

Dirty old man :biggrin:

[J R Hartley]

Dirty old man :biggrin:

Oi! Less of the old! :hehe:

[Auntie Andy]

Oi! Less of the old! :hehe:

:hehe:

Thinking about the sexual exploitation of women in sport. Can you name a female sport where they use scantily clad men to promote their sport :sherlock:

[ian gibson]

:hehe:

Thinking about the sexual exploitation of women in sport. Can you name a female sport where they use scantily clad men to promote their sport :sherlock:

Bingo?
Sewing?
Rabbiting?

[Des Parrot]

Great to see that MotoGP have stated that they will not follow F1s lead and that they will retain their grid girls.

:biggrin: The Spanish & Italian biased governing body have a different view on the subject.

[Auntie Andy]

Bingo?
Sewing?
Rabbiting?

Got me in stitches here :biggrin:

[J R Hartley]

:hehe:

Thinking about the sexual exploitation of women in sport. Can you name a female sport where they use scantily clad men to promote their sport :sherlock:

Foxy Boxing

[ian gibson]

Got me in stitches here :biggrin:

That'll be the sewing.

[Blooburd]

Some girls are sporty, some aspire to be models, some like to get glammed up and parade themselves, some get a kick out of being objectified by men. Why should it be up to a certain section of these women, the feminist nazis, that decide what can and cant go for all women?

dirty old man...

[Auntie Andy]

That'll be the sewing.

Stop trying to needle me :wave:

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

If women want to choose a career that is created by men to titillate other men and unavailable to most women we should let them have that choice.

[Croesy Blue]

"Nazi feminists" don't run or have much in the way of influence over formula one.
They've clearly just made this decision because it was no longer worthwhile wasting their money paying models to stand by the cars.
No amount of frothing at the mouth by the hard of thinking on here, means that this is not true.

Dont waste your breath, ccmb is now full of the thickest people on the internet who’ve had their brains warped by the absolute bollocks they’ve come across on the Internet. The irony of them calling people offended and snowflakes is also lost on them while they spend every second of their pathetic lives posting on here.

[dembethewarrior]

:hehe:

Thinking about the sexual exploitation of women in sport. Can you name a female sport where they use scantily clad men to promote their sport :sherlock:

No.

Cos sexy women promote tennis/beach volley ball etc..

[dembethewarrior]

Dont waste your breath, ccmb is now full of the thickest people on the internet who’ve had their brains warped by the absolute bollocks they’ve come across on the Internet. The irony of them calling people offended and snowflakes is also lost on them while they spend every second of their pathetic lives posting on here.

Says the keyboard warrior.

[Croesy Blue]

Says the keyboard warrior.
What does that even mean in this context?

[dembethewarrior]

What does that even mean in this context?

Well, it means that you are a keyboard warrior. Looking at your Post, anyone would assume it means you are comfortable saying these things with a keyboard, and wouldn't be as likely to repeat them in different circumstances.

Hope this helps.

[Rjk]

If women want to choose a career that is created by men to titillate other men and unavailable to most women we should let them have that choice.

Correct, but also if F1 decide they don't want to waste money paying models to hold umbrellas, because they aren't bringing in the crowds any more, then we should respect that choice

[Wales-Bales]

Gallery denies censorship after removing Victorian painting

A gallery has temporarily removed a Victorian painting of naked adolescent girls in a move to "encourage debate" about how such images should be displayed in the modern age.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42904024

[joecity]

Gallery denies censorship after removing Victorian painting

A gallery has temporarily removed a Victorian painting of naked adolescent girls in a move to "encourage debate" about how such images should be displayed in the modern age.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42904024

Saw that. Its not Razzle.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Correct, but also if F1 decide they don't want to waste money paying models to hold umbrellas, because they aren't bringing in the crowds any more, then we should respect that choice

Sorry, Rjk, I was trying to be a clever-arse by suggesting that it isn't much of a career choice for women if 1. It's based on the basic desires of others, and 2. It's determined by how she looks and how old she is.

[jamieccfc]

Correct, but also if F1 decide they don't want to waste money paying models to hold umbrellas, because they aren't bringing in the crowds any more, then we should respect that choice

What makes you believe this though? Everything that's been going on lately points to the fact people are getting scared imo

[dembethewarrior]

What makes you believe this though? Everything that's been going on lately points to the fact people are getting scared imo

Not that I'm saying it should happen (some men ARE ****ing nuisance pest types) but it's got to the point where in a busy pub you won't even point out a decent looking girl anymore for fear of a blackcurrant vodka down ya white top...

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Sorry, Rjk, I was trying to be a clever-arse by suggesting that it isn't much of a career choice for women if 1. It's based on the basic desires of others, and 2. It's determined by how she looks and how old she is.

Football isn't much of a career for men given it's determined by physical acts and how old the players are...

Basic desires? Vast majority of F1 viewers are petrol heads. Think you'll find most creaming themselves over the excellent technical features Sky have rather than a fleeting glimpse of a young woman for all of a second.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Football isn't much of a career for men given it's determined by physical acts and how old the players are...

Basic desires? Vast majority of F1 viewers are petrol heads. Think you'll find most creaming themselves over the excellent technical features Sky have rather than a fleeting glimpse of a young woman for all of a second.

Are footballers chosen by how good they look?

And if F1 viewers aren't interested in the women then why have them?

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Are footballers chosen by how good they look?

And if F1 viewers aren't interested in the women then why have them?

If you can point out any footballers who don't match the fotballer prototype these days... those overweight tend to be loaned out in the hope other clubs can get them fit.

They are there, afaik not employed directly by F1 but by local promoters to bring a bit of glamour.

The cars and drivers are the stars, the grid girls are just something that's there. No viewer tunes in to watch the grid girls ( except sludge ), no viewer tunes in to watch the ring girls in boxing or ufc ( except Sludge ) etc.

What we're seeing these days is a culture espoused that women can truly do anything they want to - except things a vocal minority don't want them to do. Which seems to me to be as anti-feminist as you can get.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

If you can point out any footballers who don't match the fotballer prototype these days... those overweight tend to be loaned out in the hope other clubs can get them fit.

They are there, afaik not employed directly by F1 but by local promoters to bring a bit of glamour.

The cars and drivers are the stars, the grid girls are just something that's there. No viewer tunes in to watch the grid girls ( except sludge ), no viewer tunes in to watch the ring girls in boxing or ufc ( except Sludge ) etc.

What we're seeing these days is a culture espoused that women can truly do anything they want to - except things a vocal minority don't want them to do. Which seems to me to be as anti-feminist as you can get.

You ask me to name a player who doesn't meet the footballer prototype then you name one. :shrug: But it's a poor analogy anyway - a footballer's skill is nurtured over many years and not just a genetic gift and a hour in hair and make-up.

Then you suggest they're there to bring a bit of glamour but no-one's taking any notice. Then why have them if no-one is bothered about the glamour?

I don't think what is being espoused has changed. Feminism wants women to be judged equally and fairly like anyone else and not just as eye candy and 'glamour'.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

You ask me to name a player who doesn't meet the footballer prototype then you name one. :shrug: But it's a poor analogy anyway - a footballer's skill is nurtured over many years and not just a genetic gift and a hour in hair and make-up.

Then you suggest they're there to bring a bit of glamour but no-one's taking any notice. Then why have them if no-one is bothered about the glamour?

I don't think what is being espoused has changed. Feminism wants women to be judged equally and fairly like anyone else and not just as eye candy and 'glamour'.

That's bs though. Feminists can claim that all they like but women themselves are highly judgmental on looks et al - probably moreso than men. Feminists would rail against NFL cheerleaders, I'm sure. Ok, they are highly trained, demonstrating skill in their routines and indeed virtually all are educated to degree level but damn, they aren't wearing suits.

Would you say NFL cheerleaders are just "a genetic gift and an hour in hair and make-up"? That's quite judgemental if you agree with that view.

End of the day, if a model ( part time or other ) wants to hold a sign at a grand prix event ( and they aren't hardly just stood there wearing bikinis ) then imo they are prefectly free to do so without being judged by anyone, especially "feminists".

PS,

I didn't say nobody was taking notice. What I said was that the overwhelming majority of F1 viewers are petrolheads. Do they add a bit of glamour to a sport that is testosterone on speed? Yes. Do people tune in specifically to watch them ( apart from Sludge )? Behave...

[Eric Cartman]

What makes you believe this though? Everything that's been going on lately points to the fact people are getting scared imo

Scared of what?

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

That's bs though. Feminists can claim that all they like but women themselves are highly judgmental on looks et al - probably moreso than men. Feminists would rail against NFL cheerleaders, I'm sure. Ok, they are highly trained, demonstrating skill in their routines and indeed virtually all are educated to degree level but damn, they aren't wearing suits.

Would you say NFL cheerleaders are just "a genetic gift and an hour in hair and make-up"? That's quite judgemental if you agree with that view.

End of the day, if a model ( part time or other ) wants to hold a sign at a grand prix event ( and they aren't hardly just stood there wearing bikinis ) then imo they are prefectly free to do so without being judged by anyone, especially "feminists".

PS,

I didn't say nobody was taking notice. What I said was that the overwhelming majority of F1 viewers are petrolheads. Do they add a bit of glamour to a sport that is testosterone on speed? Yes. Do people tune in specifically to watch them ( apart from Sludge )? Behave...



You've already explained the difference between cheerleaders and someone holding a sign, so no, I wouldn't make that judgment (not that I mentioned cheerleaders).

"End of the day, if a model wants to hold a sign..." Do they though? Or do they think it's just a job because that's all we can offer them? This is the worth we bestow on them which becomes their self worth - 'just stand there, don't think, don't offer any ideas, you're here just to be the sugar on the event, until we think you're not attractive enough anymore.'

And what if someone applies to be a grid girl and they're not qualified i.e. not hot enough? Maybe (some) women are judgmental about each other because this is how society values them. Also, everyone can be quite snooty about each other in particular ways; it doesn't mean they want that in a societal framework.

Glamour is shallow and a facade; I think it's good we're moving away from such a mindset.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

You've already explained the difference between cheerleaders and someone holding a sign, so no, I wouldn't make that judgment (not that I mentioned cheerleaders).

"End of the day, if a model wants to hold a sign..." Do they though? Or do they think it's just a job because that's all we can offer them? This is the worth we bestow on them which becomes their self worth - 'just stand there, don't think, don't offer any ideas, you're here just to be the sugar on the event, until we think you're not attractive enough anymore.'

And what if someone applies to be a grid girl and they're not qualified i.e. not hot enough? Maybe (some) women are judgmental about each other because this is how society values them. Also, everyone can be quite snooty about each other in particular ways; it doesn't mean they want that in a societal framework.

Glamour is shallow and a facade; I think it's good we're moving away from such a mindset.

That's all we can offer them? Good grief - it's one days work. One day. Models are self-employed after all...

Shallow, facade are terms that can be used at the faux outrage on behalf of such downtrodden women...

[Mrs Steve R]

My niece had Geordie shore on here after school Monday afternoon, one of them had a "feminist" tshirt on....is she ****.

Another woman who's picture I'd have to find was saying the same about sexualising women..there's a picture of her on an expensive boat lying down showing off her arse in a small bikini.
Half of them don't even know what it means, not doing your fair share of the washing up according to this girl..

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16864492_760322437448531_7115603885244368328_n.jpg ?oh=4fce18178e5204126083171b56d6fcb2&oe=5ADAF139

:hehe:

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

That's all we can offer them? Good grief - it's one days work. One day. Models are self-employed after all...

Shallow, facade are terms that can be used at the faux outrage on behalf of such downtrodden women...

It's actually not the women, but the job. I'm not outraged, I'm trying to suggest the job exists because of particular social norms. You've said few people are interested in grid girls but we should keep them anyway because it's an opportunity for particular (i.e. nubile) women. It sounds like you're the one speaking on their behalf.

[James fox]

Women & Croesy Blue campaigning for other professional women to get sacked and lose a good source of income - wow

How about letting them make up their own FECKING minds for a change

FYP.

[dembethewarrior]

Football isn't much of a career for men given it's determined by physical acts and how old the players are...

Basic desires? Vast majority of F1 viewers are petrol heads. Think you'll find most creaming themselves over the excellent technical features Sky have rather than a fleeting glimpse of a young woman for all of a second.

Yeah cos a 40 year old singleton who loves engines can't leer over a woman on t.v can he...

[Croesy Blue]

Well, it means that you are a keyboard warrior. Looking at your Post, anyone would assume it means you are comfortable saying these things with a keyboard, and wouldn't be as likely to repeat them in different circumstances.

Hope this helps.

Jesus Christ what a c*nt.

[dembethewarrior]

Jesus Christ what a c*nt.
Do I need to start tagging posts for sarcasm?

It's the internet for **** sake lighten up you stupid tory ****.

[Croesy Blue]

FYP.
As a feminist I think women should be allowed to do whatever job they want, i don’t see anything wrong with someone choosing to be a grid girl at all.

Likewise I don’t see a problem with F1 making a decision that they think a certain position isn’t required any more.

[xsnaggle]

Do I need to start tagging posts for sarcasm?

It's the internet for **** sake lighten up you stupid tory ****.

Why do you use the word tory as an insult? Just asking?

[dembethewarrior]

Why do you use the word tory as an insult? Just asking?

My gramp used to.

Only time I recall me doing it anyway!