Ed Sheeran .....

[CardiffIrish2]

I know he’s a nice guy, he can play the guitar and can sing.

But to me his tunes are instantly bland and forgettable. I just don’t get the phenomena of him and how he’s sold out so many stadiums.

‘Hi Cardiff, lets get ready to rock to my latest bland ditty about Suffolk’ 😃😃

[lardy]

Not a fan, but he can play on his own to tens of thousands every night. There's actually fairly few solo artists over the years who can claim that. So respect is due for that.

[elytillidie]

Went to see Elvis Costello and the Imposters in Blenheim Palace last night, now there's a singer songwriter, brilliant show. Off to see him in Wales Millennium Centre tonight, think it'll be even better indoors.

[life on mars]

I know he’s a nice guy, he can play the guitar and can sing.

But to me his tunes are instantly bland and forgettable. I just don’t get the phenomena of him and how he’s sold out so many stadiums.

‘Hi Cardiff, lets get ready to rock to my latest bland ditty about Suffolk’ 😃😃

Yep it does now to be a very underwhelmed music world ,where good artist like Ed become superstars, its a dumb down musical would that has left me cold .

Give these a listen much cheaper and fun :

Goats Girl
The Blossoms
Shady Nasty
Shame.

[Peajay]

Yep it does now to be a very underwhelmed music world ,where good artist like Ed become superstars, its a dumb down musical would that has left me cold .

Give these a listen much cheaper and fun :

Goats Girl
The Blossoms
Shady Nasty
Shame.

Saw the Blossoms supporting Noel G in Luxembourg. Very good, but I was a fan before, they remind me of another great band 'The Delays'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbIddy1G_OY&list=PLxKD9DpziFWRrKyOixQW2-iw1e89q-9Es

[Mr Soul '68]

Went to see Elvis Costello and the Imposters in Blenheim Palace last night, now there's a singer songwriter, brilliant show. Off to see him in Wales Millennium Centre tonight, think it'll be even better indoors.

Elvis Costello, surely one of the most over-rated performers to come out of the punk/new wave movement? And my goodness, there are plenty to choose from there!

Saw him back in the day three times, Top Rank in '77 & '78 and Sophia Gardens Pavilion in '79. Each time he was nothing more than mundane to put it mildly. The only remotely interesting part of those three gigs was when Dave Edmunds joined him and the Attractions onstage for the encore of 'Mystery Dance' at the pavilion. I only went, if you are asking why I actually went three times, because a couple of my mates at the time thought he was the bees-knees. Also do I have a propensity to go and see live bands. Sadly Costello did not live up to the hype that Sounds, NME, Melody Maker et al. were bestowing him with

[elytillidie]

Elvis Costello, surely one of the most over-rated performers to come out of the punk/new wave movement? And my goodness, there are plenty to choose from there!

Saw him back in the day three times, Top Rank in '77 & '78 and Sophia Gardens Pavilion in '79. Each time he was nothing more than mundane to put it mildly. The only remotely interesting part of those three gigs was when Dave Edmunds joined him and the Attractions onstage for the encore of 'Mystery Dance' at the pavilion. I only went, if you are asking why I actually went three times, because a couple of my mates at the time thought he was the bees-knees. Also do I have a propensity to go and see live bands. Sadly Costello did not live up to the hype that Sounds, NME, Melody Maker et al. were bestowing him with
Each to their own, I enjoyed both concerts. When Gary Numan wrote Our Friends Eclectic, he could have had me in mind, went to see Billy Bragg the other week, but was so impressed by the support act, Nadine Shah that I bought two of her albums. Best gig I've been to this year though was Belle and Sebastian in Aberystwyth. PiL next, Thursday at the Tramshed, better live than their recent recorded output.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I know he’s a nice guy, he can play the guitar and can sing.

But to me his tunes are instantly bland and forgettable. I just don’t get the phenomena of him and how he’s sold out so many stadiums.

‘Hi Cardiff, lets get ready to rock to my latest bland ditty about Suffolk’ ����

He's not my cup of tea but if artists get people to shell out their hard-earned cash and in big numbers there is something to be understood. His lyrics and songs obviously mean things to a lot of people. Deriding other people's taste in music is a constant theme on here.
For my part, original artists are more preferable to the endless plethora of tribute bands these days.

[MacAdder]

I don't get the Sheeron phenomena either but no doubt many said the same about Bob Dillon initially.

I consider myself very lucky that bands ruled when I were a lad and it was easy, and cheap, to watch live music any night of the week anywhere in Cardiff. Not so these days.

Whatever genre a youngster gets into, he/she does because others do too and with there being relatively few bands and decent music atm, IMO, Sheeron seems to have arrived at just the right time.... for him!

As for Elvis Costello, seen him a number of times at different stages in his career and is a top writer and performer.

[AfricanBluebird]

I know he’s a nice guy, he can play the guitar and can sing.

But to me his tunes are instantly bland and forgettable. I just don’t get the phenomena of him and how he’s sold out so many stadiums.

‘Hi Cardiff, lets get ready to rock to my latest bland ditty about Suffolk’ 😃😃

There is a frequent discussion I have with my brother about how much someone would have to pay you to go to an Ed Sheeran concert. Current rate is about $500, which is still $250 less than it would cost someone to send me to see Adele.

Nice guy, talented but utterly mind numbing.

[lardy]

I don't get the Sheeron phenomena either but no doubt many said the same about Bob Dillon initially.

I consider myself very lucky that bands ruled when I were a lad and it was easy, and cheap, to watch live music any night of the week anywhere in Cardiff. Not so these days.

Whatever genre a youngster gets into, he/she does because others do too and with there being relatively few bands and decent music atm, IMO, Sheeron seems to have arrived at just the right time.... for him!

As for Elvis Costello, seen him a number of times at different stages in his career and is a top writer and performer.

I think the opposite, there are many good bands because it's cheaper and easier to record music and it's a lot easier to find them than it was (even five years ago). Plus it's very hard to actually sell people music.

So if anything, he has become huge at a time when it's very difficult to become huge. It's the same principle as Only Fools And Horses getting 20m viewers when nothing nowadays gets those kind of figures. There's a lot more to compete with.

[Skinny Pete]

A glorified busker who got lucky.

[G rangetown Blue]

A glorified busker who got lucky.

Singing nursery rhymes to grown ups.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Singing nursery rhymes to grown ups.

We all buy into nursery rhymes. Identity, nationality, football club affiliation, romance, religion, familial history and many other things.

[Wales-Bales]

Saw the Blossoms supporting Noel G in Luxembourg. Very good, but I was a fan before, they remind me of another great band 'The Delays'.
I've had the chance to see them live on three occasions, but I keep putting it off.

[Wales-Bales]

We all buy into nursery rhymes. Identity, nationality, football club affiliation, romance, religion, familial history and many other things.
Why do you waste your time travelling the world if you think all of these things are BS! :biggrin:

[Mr Soul '68]

Each to their own, I enjoyed both concerts. When Gary Numan wrote Our Friends Eclectic, he could have had me in mind, went to see Billy Bragg the other week, but was so impressed by the support act, Nadine Shah that I bought two of her albums. Best gig I've been to this year though was Belle and Sebastian in Aberystwyth. PiL next, Thursday at the Tramshed, better live than their recent recorded output.

Good reply matey!

Just as well we don't all like the same half a dozen bands innit?

You would probably shudder at me mentioning the best two live bands around between '76/79 were Hawkwind and Thin Lizzy lol

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Why do you waste your time travelling the world if you think all of these things are BS! :biggrin:

I travel as an observer of the human condition, old fruit :-)

[blue matt]

Well i am looking forward to the Ed gig, taking the girls ( the 1st gig they have been to ) as they love a bit of Ed Sheeran

He is pretty inoffensive and can sing a catchy tune, whats to dislike about that

[Peajay]

I cant stick him, but each to their own. My girls are fans and are going.

I do think he's scored somewhat of an own goal with the ticket resale thingy, as it seems he is not only hurting the scummy touts but in turn penalising his own fans too, somewhat closing the gate after the horse has bolted.

What I do find highly amusing is the shed loads of tickets available on Twickets, most of which would have been bought by parasites hoping to sell tickets on the likes of Viagogo at hugely inflated prices.

[Peajay]

I've had the chance to see them live on three occasions, but I keep putting it off.

I saw them in the coal exchange, years ago. I must admit I thought they had finished due to the lead singers serious illness ?

[lardy]

I saw them in the coal exchange, years ago. I must admit I thought they had finished due to the lead singers serious illness ?

I think it was a joke.

I saw them in the barfly. Pretty good.

[Peajay]

I think it was a joke.



Oh, yeh, missed that one. Comedy Gold.

[jamieccfc]

Like most on here I just don’t get it popular music these days is shit in my opinion I remember recording the top 40 every Sunday but it just seems like a waste of time now you have multiple radio stations with different charts and when you think 50 cent had more singles in the top 10 than the Beatles and I think jay z has more us number 1 than the Beatles Just seems ridiculous to me

[severncity]

...is a plagiarist. Thinking Out Loud, Photograph and Shape Of You to name but three.


https://youtu.be/4Gd1I3DmEd4

[MacAdder]

...is a plagiarist. Thinking Out Loud, Photograph and Shape Of You to name but three.


https://youtu.be/4Gd1I3DmEd4

I'm afraid that this has been going on since time immemorial.

Most youngsters these days have never even heard of Marvin Gaye and even if they have, Marv's an old fogey and Ed's cool.

[lardy]

...is a plagiarist. Thinking Out Loud, Photograph and Shape Of You to name but three.


https://youtu.be/4Gd1I3DmEd4

Never been convinced on the Thinking Out Loud/Let's Get It On ripoff. It's the same bassline but it's such an incredibly simple progression. It wasn't first used by Gaye.

But yes, Sheeran has ripped other stuff off more clearly.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

I'm afraid that this has been going on since time immemorial.

Most youngsters these days have never even heard of Marvin Gaye and even if they have, Marv's an old fogey and Ed's cool.

No ginge can ever be cool.

[NYCBlue]

I know he’s a nice guy, he can play the guitar and can sing.

But to me his tunes are instantly bland and forgettable. I just don’t get the phenomena of him and how he’s sold out so many stadiums.

‘Hi Cardiff, lets get ready to rock to my latest bland ditty about Suffolk’ ����

He's bland. Most people don't like to be challenged or have to think too much. Makes sense to me.

[NYCBlue]

He's bland. Most people don't like to be challenged or have to think too much. Makes sense to me.

The only plus is that he's not what would be considered conventionally attractive. So I suppose that's something positive.

[elytillidie]

Good reply matey!

Just as well we don't all like the same half a dozen bands innit?

You would probably shudder at me mentioning the best two live bands around between '76/79 were Hawkwind and Thin Lizzy lol

Not at all, fairly certain I saw Hawkwind in Cardiff Castle with Curved Air, Status Quo maybe. Memory not great. Been listening to Townes Van Zandt lately which I find quite shocking, The Fall, anybody really. With live bands in the seventies I'd always give Slade a mention. Next live music for me probably Trojan Soundsystem at the Globe and hopefully the Downs Festival in Bristol, I'll get to see Nadine Shah again. :thumbup:

[Wales-Bales]

Been listening to Townes Van Zandt lately which I find quite shocking
Why shocking?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zprRZ2wFQD4

[elytillidie]

Why shocking?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zprRZ2wFQD4
Can't watch the video clip, I'm on a ship offshore. Not really shocking, but not a type of music I'd have ever thought I'd enjoy. Surprised myself. Reading a book about him at the moment, bit of a hellraiser, who could, and should have had more recognition during his lifetime.
ps What was the video clip?

[Wales-Bales]

Can't watch the video clip, I'm on a ship offshore. Not really shocking, but not a type of music I'd have ever thought I'd enjoy. Surprised myself. Reading a book about him at the moment, bit of a hellraiser, who could, and should have had more recognition during his lifetime.
ps What was the video clip?
A song from the documentary Heartworn Highways

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartworn_Highways

[Mr Soul '68]

Not at all, fairly certain I saw Hawkwind in Cardiff Castle with Curved Air, Status Quo maybe. Memory not great. Been listening to Townes Van Zandt lately which I find quite shocking, The Fall, anybody really. With live bands in the seventies I'd always give Slade a mention. Next live music for me probably Trojan Soundsystem at the Globe and hopefully the Downs Festival in Bristol, I'll get to see Nadine Shah again. :thumbup:

I was there for that gig at Cardiff Castle (July '76), line up that day was Budgie, Curved Air, Hawkwind, Strawbs and Status Quo. Yes, I'll probably be there at the Globe for the Trojan Soundsystem too

[life on mars]

I was there for that gig at Cardiff Castle (July '76), line up that day was Budgie, Curved Air, Hawkwind, Strawbs and Status Quo. Yes, I'll probably be there at the Globe for the Trojan Soundsystem too

Yep I was at that one bit worse forces though I remeber thousands ironically singing along with Dave Couzens of the Strawbs "you want get me I'm part of the union "

Budge were a class act.

[City123]

...is a plagiarist. Thinking Out Loud, Photograph and Shape Of You to name but three.


https://youtu.be/4Gd1I3DmEd4
Reminds me of this :hehe:


https://youtu.be/NN75im_us4k

[Mr Soul '68]

Yep I was at that one bit worse forces though I remeber thousands ironically singing along with Dave Couzens of the Strawbs "you want get me I'm part of the union "

Budge were a class act.

Budgie are the best band to come out of Wales. Full stop

[Wales-Bales]

Never been convinced on the Thinking Out Loud/Let's Get It On ripoff. It's the same bassline but it's such an incredibly simple progression. It wasn't first used by Gaye.

But yes, Sheeran has ripped other stuff off more clearly.
T'was written by a lady from Pontypridd ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUr61TYs_hE

[elytillidie]

I was there for that gig at Cardiff Castle (July '76), line up that day was Budgie, Curved Air, Hawkwind, Strawbs and Status Quo. Yes, I'll probably be there at the Globe for the Trojan Soundsystem too
The Mod and Ska night at the Tramshed on 29th September should be good too, was fun last year. In aid of Teenage Cancer Trust too.

[noodles]

The only time i enjoyed listening to Ed Sheeran was when he sang in Game of Thrones. But Hawkwind and their Silver Machine was brilliant and brings back so many great memories.

[Gofer Blue]

A glorified busker who got lucky.

Spot on. A classic case of the Emperor's clothes scenario methinks.

[Since64]

Can't watch the video clip, I'm on a ship offshore. Not really shocking, but not a type of music I'd have ever thought I'd enjoy. Surprised myself. Reading a book about him at the moment, bit of a hellraiser, who could, and should have had more recognition during his lifetime.
ps What was the video clip?
Great story teller and a great song writer who Influenced so many,but yes he had a lot of issues

[severncity]

Never been convinced on the Thinking Out Loud/Let's Get It On ripoff. It's the same bassline but it's such an incredibly simple progression. It wasn't first used by Gaye.

But yes, Sheeran has ripped other stuff off more clearly.

I couldn’t be bothered to argue when you originally posted your reply, or when the news below broke. But im at a loose end now so here it is.
https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/ed-sheeran-sued-again-over-thinking-out-loud-this-time-for-100-million-1202861137/

The first time I heard “Thinking Out Loud” I was certain that it was a ripoff of “Let’s Get It On”. You, with your superior knowledge and wisdom on every conceivable subject, will naturally disagree. It must be a real bind for you being correct 100% of the time.

[cantonboy]

A glorified busker who got lucky.

He was shit in Game of Thrones too...

[lardy]

I couldn’t be bothered to argue when you originally posted your reply, or when the news below broke. But im at a loose end now so here it is.
https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/ed-sheeran-sued-again-over-thinking-out-loud-this-time-for-100-million-1202861137/

The first time I heard “Thinking Out Loud” I was certain that it was a ripoff of “Let’s Get It On”. You, with your superior knowledge and wisdom on every conceivable subject, will naturally disagree. It must be a real bind for you being correct 100% of the time.

:hehe:

[elytillidie]

Great story teller and a great song writer who Influenced so many,but yes he had a lot of issues
:thumbup:

[life on mars]

Budgie are the best band to come out of Wales. Full stop

Amen to that, followed by Man and Sassafras, I saw all 3 on one bill down Rover way club many moons ago

[life on mars]

The Mod and Ska night at the Tramshed on 29th September should be good too, was fun last year. In aid of Teenage Cancer Trust too.

Can I bring my zimmer frame ska dance to the floor

[lardy]

I've done a bit of googling and found these songs that have the same chord progression in the same key (not necessarily the same feel*) as Let's Get It On and Thinking Out Loud. I'm not saying anyone's ripped anyone else off, just thought it was interesting. Like I said, it's a common chord sequence.

Ricky van Shelton - It Wouldn't Kill Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_4-cma8n0

Third Time Out - Across The Miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzBJOUTiwZs

Kenny Chesney - Touchdown Tennessee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHlqq8dvNA

Cowboys seem to love it

Mott The Hoople - No Wheels To Ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOdVsLZ4Vlw

Hannah Montana - Rockstar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKpG7BkcLY

Yeah, even Hannah Montana is getting involved.

Kip Moore - Girls Like You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7H-bSlLoqI

The Carpenters - I Won't Last A Day Without You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt5huMICEwU

That's page 9 of Google, I'm done.


*and certainly not necessarily good

[Wales-Bales]

I've done a bit of googling and found these songs that have the same chord progression in the same key (not necessarily the same feel*) as Let's Get It On and Thinking Out Loud. I'm not saying anyone's ripped anyone else off, just thought it was interesting. Like I said, it's a common chord sequence.

Ricky van Shelton - It Wouldn't Kill Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_4-cma8n0

Third Time Out - Across The Miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzBJOUTiwZs

Kenny Chesney - Touchdown Tennessee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHlqq8dvNA

Cowboys seem to love it

Mott The Hoople - No Wheels To Ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOdVsLZ4Vlw

Hannah Montana - Rockstar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKpG7BkcLY

Yeah, even Hannah Montana is getting involved.

Kip Moore - Girls Like You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7H-bSlLoqI

The Carpenters - I Won't Last A Day Without You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt5huMICEwU

That's page 9 of Google, I'm done.


*and certainly not necessarily good
Having the same chord progression and key doesn't have anything to do with plagiarism!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

[lardy]

Having the same chord progression and key doesn't have anything to do with plagiarism!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

That's my point.