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Do have more of them than other similar teams? We seem to have a load of feckless little scumbags who travel away and behaving appallingly at every opportunity. The coin throwing yesterday is just one example. Older fans around them seem to tolerate it as well, puts me off travelling away to be honest:frown:
AlwaysAway2
12-08-18, 11:37
Do have more of them than other similar teams? We seem to have a load of feckless little scumbags who travel away and behaving appallingly at every opportunity. The coin throwing yesterday is just one example. Older fans around them seem to tolerate it as well, puts me off travelling away to be honest:frown:
There are cameras everywhere these days they can be identified and should be.
We certainly have a younger fanbase than some other clubs, especially away. The main advantage of this is it leads to a great atmosphere in the away end, the downside is they can go too far at times
We certainly have a younger fanbase than some other clubs, especially away. The main advantage of this is it leads to a great atmosphere in the away end, the downside is they can go too far at times
How many coins were thrown , two ?
A shame one or two individuals spoil it though .....
If you see something, say something.
Do have more of them than other similar teams? We seem to have a load of feckless little scumbags who travel away and behaving appallingly at every opportunity. The coin throwing yesterday is just one example. Older fans around them seem to tolerate it as well, puts me off travelling away to be honest:frown:
How many incidents did we have last season? The season before? It seems to be at the bigger games - tickets sold on to non-regulars? - but doesn't usually happen.
Are you sure it was youngsters ?
We have quite a few travel with us and in general they are pretty well behaved.
Sometimes the problems we have are from people old enough to know better
Croesy Blue
12-08-18, 12:57
Our away support definitely has a problem, but then so do most football clubs. It’s embarrassing the way grown men and kids think it’s ok to act.
It seems being in a football ground lets you get away with acting like a compete twat with zero punishment.
Those who travel must know who the culprits are. Why don't they report them for the sake of the club's reputation? Is there anything our coach operators can do to ensure those who have tickets are entitled to receive them and thereby travel to away games.? It only takes one idiot to undo all the good work the club has done to deal with the juvenile behaviour of grown adults.
Those who travel must know who the culprits are. Why don't they report them for the sake of the club's reputation? Is there anything our coach operators can do to ensure those who have tickets are entitled to receive them and thereby travel to away games.? It only takes one idiot to undo all the good work the club has done to deal with the juvenile behaviour of grown adults.
The last sentence is spot on.
How many coins were thrown , two ?
A shame one or two individuals spoil it though .....
There was a scuffle at the end of the game as well, although they looked like older fans, I'm 18 so I'm always with guys who are 16-25 and they're all well behaved.
Those who travel must know who the culprits are. Why don't they report them for the sake of the club's reputation? Is there anything our coach operators can do to ensure those who have tickets are entitled to receive them and thereby travel to away games.? It only takes one idiot to undo all the good work the club has done to deal with the juvenile behaviour of grown adults.
Unless you were stood next to them I doubt you'd know who they were, I didn't even notice the coin until Fraser walked onto the pitch and picked it up
Our away support definitely has a problem, but then so do most football clubs. It’s embarrassing the way grown men and kids think it’s ok to act.
It seems being in a football ground lets you get away with acting like a compete twat with zero punishment.
It’s like a ladies tea party compared to the 80’s, soon breaking wind will result in a 30 day ban
Croesy Blue
12-08-18, 14:01
It’s like a ladies tea party compared to the 80’s, soon breaking wind will result in a 30 day ban
What does that matter though? It used to be worse so don’t worry about it ?
You can get away with being a complete c*nt inside a football ground at the moment. No one gets arrested despite there always being a police presence too.
The thing is it’s become normalised too much, I’m all for a good atmosphere but that can be kept without people behaving like simpletons.
As someone who can barley class myself as a younger fan at least for 1 more year (25), I find the only trouble I have ever seen following Cardiff for the last 10 years is from pissed up 50 year olds who still think they are in the 80's
What does that matter though? It used to be worse so don’t worry about it ?
You can get away with being a complete c*nt inside a football ground at the moment. No one gets arrested despite there always being a police presence too.
The thing is it’s become normalised too much, I’m all for a good atmosphere but that can be kept without people behaving like simpletons.
Yep I agree, no place for it. Ban them
There were some right bellends in the pre-season friendly at Torquay as well. They made us look really bad.
The worst of them was the end nearest the gate.
What does that matter though? It used to be worse so don’t worry about it ?
You can get away with being a complete c*nt inside a football ground at the moment. No one gets arrested despite there always being a police presence too.
The thing is it’s become normalised too much, I’m all for a good atmosphere but that can be kept without people behaving like simpletons.
People are probably going to hang me for this, but I think that it's a south wales thing. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen with other clubs, because it does, but we seem to have an unfeasible amount of retards, especially for the big games. I can't understand why people have to drink so much, I've seen people asleep at games or who can't even stand up, add in the aggression both verbally and physically, it makes for a shit day when you're surrounded by these people. South Wales has a serious problem with Alcohol, it seems that some people can't function without being pissed up at an event, and that's not just youngsters. I've worked all over the UK, and apart from one or two places, I've not experienced the drinking culture that exists here, or the importance put on boozing. Have a drink, by all means, enjoy yourself, but don't think it acceptable to be pissed up and aggressive in public. It is a problem in South Wales, every event seems to begin and end with a drink.
sneggyblubird
12-08-18, 14:34
It’s like a ladies tea party compared to the 80’s, soon breaking wind will result in a 30 day ban
A fart is at best unpleasant but throwing coins can seriously hurt someone.The only people that are bigger arseholes than these people are the ones that think its proper not to grass on them.Cowardly pieces of shit,the lot of them.
Croesy Blue
12-08-18, 15:37
People are probably going to hang me for this, but I think that it's a south wales thing. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen with other clubs, because it does, but we seem to have an unfeasible amount of retards, especially for the big games. I can't understand why people have to drink so much, I've seen people asleep at games or who can't even stand up, add in the aggression both verbally and physically, it makes for a shit day when you're surrounded by these people. South Wales has a serious problem with Alcohol, it seems that some people can't function without being pissed up at an event, and that's not just youngsters. I've worked all over the UK, and apart from one or two places, I've not experienced the drinking culture that exists here, or the importance put on boozing. Have a drink, by all means, enjoy yourself, but don't think it acceptable to be pissed up and aggressive in public. It is a problem in South Wales, every event seems to begin and end with a drink.
Agree 100%, maybe a young working class thing rather than a South Wales thing. Growing up all my mates ever wanted to do was drink.
Agree 100%, maybe a young working class thing rather than a South Wales thing. Growing up all my mates ever wanted to do was drink.
Yup, don't know how old you are, i'm mid forties, and there was no other option than to get pissed up, atleast that's how it felt. Not one person told me that drinking was optional, it was the way it was. I think that there is a marked difference with the younger generation, they seem more confident in themselves and don't seem to be as pressured into drinking as my generation was. Things have changed and they have more choice and more education, sadly, it seems like the ones that are left behind or stuck in poorer environments with less choice are still victims to that kind of culture.
Croesy Blue
12-08-18, 15:56
Yup, don't know how old you are, i'm mid forties, and there was no other option than to get pissed up, atleast that's how it felt. Not one person told me that drinking was optional, it was the way it was. I think that there is a marked difference with the younger generation, they seem more confident in themselves and don't seem to be as pressured into drinking as my generation was. Things have changed and they have more choice and more education, sadly, it seems like the ones that are left behind or stuck in poorer environments with less choice are still victims to that kind of culture.
Early 30s I was shocked when I moved away that there were other options. I grew up in the valleys and there probably wasn’t a lot else to do other than play football or drink.
Der Kaiser
12-08-18, 16:07
People are probably going to hang me for this, but I think that it's a south wales thing. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen with other clubs, because it does, but we seem to have an unfeasible amount of retards, especially for the big games. I can't understand why people have to drink so much, I've seen people asleep at games or who can't even stand up, add in the aggression both verbally and physically, it makes for a shit day when you're surrounded by these people. South Wales has a serious problem with Alcohol, it seems that some people can't function without being pissed up at an event, and that's not just youngsters. I've worked all over the UK, and apart from one or two places, I've not experienced the drinking culture that exists here, or the importance put on boozing. Have a drink, by all means, enjoy yourself, but don't think it acceptable to be pissed up and aggressive in public. It is a problem in South Wales, every event seems to begin and end with a drink.
Agree. Having just graduated from Cardiff Uni, people in Cathays who weren't welsh couldn't believe the amount the welsh lot would put away on a night out, or just at the pub, which obviously then just rubs off on people. Think Cardiff Uni is one of the biggest drinking uni's there is. I also work for a supermarket, and our cardiff stores sell by far more than stores in other UK cities. South Wales has a massive drinking problem.
Agree. Having just graduated from Cardiff Uni, people in Cathays who weren't welsh couldn't believe the amount the welsh lot would put away on a night out, or just at the pub, which obviously then just rubs off on people. Think Cardiff Uni is one of the biggest drinking uni's there is. I also work for a supermarket, and our cardiff stores sell by far more than stores in other UK cities. South Wales has a massive drinking problem.
I was contracting all over the country, so i'd meet lads from all over the place, we'd all be in digs, so the evenings were a bit boring, something to eat and maybe a beer or two, that would be it-killing time. The English lads couldn't believe how much the Welsh lads would drink, Tuesday night and five or six pints-no problem, then up at 6 to start on site for 7.30-Right as Rain! I'm not saying it was exclusive, but there is a problem in my opinion.
Our away support definitely has a problem, but then so do most football clubs. It’s embarrassing the way grown men and kids think it’s ok to act.
It seems being in a football ground lets you get away with acting like a compete twat with zero punishment.
you’re certainly not wrong there.
Agree 100%, maybe a young working class thing rather than a South Wales thing. Growing up all my mates ever wanted to do was drink.
I find this bizarre, I’ve never enjoyed drinking a lot at football, I go out on the lash plenty but not with football. I must be in the minority and back in the day it certainly felt like it.
Don't mind having a few pints before the match but you'll never see me get absolutely steaming at the game ...... what's the fcuking point?
Would rather be sober enjoying the footy :thumbup:
Too much booze never leads to anything good, and I'd also rather be sober watching the game.
I've been very conscious of my own drinking lately as I was drinking some sort of alcohol almost every day, whether it be a few pints after work/weekend or a bottle or two of wine throughout the week. I was bought a nice bottle of whiskey from the gang in work and I'd finished it off within a week.
I'm having a little break from it all now though and haven't had any alcohol since 28th July. I feel better for it.
Mr Soul '68
13-08-18, 13:34
Here is an article from the BBC website regarding the coin throwing at Bournemouth.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45172771
Let's hope the cameras at the ground pick out the chav scummers. Although from experience it's just as likely to be grampy chavs as it is these wild feral scum teenage chavvies that I think you are alluding to. A life ban from ALL football grounds would be the answer once they are caught
Harry Monk
13-08-18, 14:17
People are probably going to hang me for this, but I think that it's a south wales thing. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen with other clubs, because it does, but we seem to have an unfeasible amount of retards, especially for the big games. I can't understand why people have to drink so much, I've seen people asleep at games or who can't even stand up, add in the aggression both verbally and physically, it makes for a shit day when you're surrounded by these people. South Wales has a serious problem with Alcohol, it seems that some people can't function without being pissed up at an event, and that's not just youngsters. I've worked all over the UK, and apart from one or two places, I've not experienced the drinking culture that exists here, or the importance put on boozing. Have a drink, by all means, enjoy yourself, but don't think it acceptable to be pissed up and aggressive in public. It is a problem in South Wales, every event seems to begin and end with a drink.
It's not just alcohol though. Go into the toilets at any away game and try to get in a cubicle for a s4it. They're usually doubled up with a load of coke heads snorting like there's no tomorrow.
Auntie Andy
13-08-18, 15:12
It's not just alcohol though. Go into the toilets at any away game and try to get in a cubicle for a s4it. They're usually doubled up with a load of coke heads snorting like there's no tomorrow.
GREAT I wonder if those who threw the coins are really pleased with themselves or will they be ashamed of their actions. All the hard work done by the club and it’s fans to try and rid us of the bad name we had, all gone in one throw of a coin. Bloody dickheads.
the other bob wilson
13-08-18, 15:22
I find this bizarre, I’ve never enjoyed drinking a lot at football, I go out on the lash plenty but not with football. I must be in the minority and back in the day it certainly felt like it.
Same here, I don't drink any more, but my Saturday ritual always used to be stay sober for the game, then have a skinful later - as for evening games, it'd just be a case of perhaps a pint or two afterwards, but most of the time I didn't even bother with that.
Agree with Tuerto about South Wales' drinking culture.
Auntie Andy
13-08-18, 17:18
Perhaps it’s time to breathalyse and drug test every Cardiff City fan that goes away. That should stop all the pissheads and druggies dragging our club through the mud.
Perhaps it’s time to breathalyse and drug test every Cardiff City fan that goes away. That should stop all the pissheads and druggies dragging our club through the mud.
I don't think that would be the answer. I know lads who behave like bellends after 4-5 pints, and other lads who can drink a brewery dry and still behave themselves.
Former Labour leader
13-08-18, 17:52
I must be the most boring bugger going.
Just a pissed up Friday night when I was a teenager, got married and hardly touched a drop since. Never drink before or after a City game, even as a youngster it would just be one or two.
Never done drugs either.
Wish I had a vice!
valley boy
13-08-18, 17:55
Do have more of them than other similar teams? We seem to have a load of feckless little scumbags who travel away and behaving appallingly at every opportunity. The coin throwing yesterday is just one example. Older fans around them seem to tolerate it as well, puts me off travelling away to be honest:frown:
My view exactly. Thats why I stopped going away to be honest. I just dont want to be connected with them makes you ashamed..
Auntie Andy
13-08-18, 18:04
I don't think that would be the answer. I know lads who behave like bellends after 4-5 pints, and other lads who can drink a brewery dry and still behave themselves.
But everyone would know that they can’t drink more than say two pints before a game. Plus I’d definitely stop selling alcohol inside grounds. Also get the drug dogs back and drug test randomly.
Is this thread fair? We have gone from no posts about issues with drinking at our games to comments suggesting toilets are full of coke-heads and South Wales has an alcohol problem after one away game. We should remember that our away fans make a terrific atmosphere and even if there are those who shouldn't represent our club/City or some behaviour that needs to be left in the 90's that most of the away fans are normal and well behaved people. I think we have an issue that many clubs have that big games (first away game in premier league is) attract fans who demonstrate the worst in football fan behaviour. We may have more knobs than most but I believe that in Fever Pitch Nick Hornby talks about not liking Arsenal Spurs games anymore because of the type of fan that bigged up match attracts.
What can we do? In the short term I think it would be fair for either the club to take a slightly reduced allocation to the big 6 clubs and/or pay to have an increased number of stewards. We can also enforce stricter checks against big 6 at home games but that means getting fans to the ground earlier. It might not be popular but these knobs turn up for Aston Villa away whereas they don't to QPR. In the long term maybe getting more kids interested in sport/looking after their body and working with rugby clubs to ensure that binge drinking isn't so much a part of partaking in sport?
For the record, I don't like drinking at football games as it means I a) don't have a clear eye for detail and b) I don't want to leave my seat to go to the toilet because my bladder is full. I also don't need a drink to be able to make noise, as long as I am part of a crowd and not expected to start it, so there are really no positives about downing several pints for me.
splott parker
13-08-18, 18:53
I love a few pints before & after games, always been part of football for me, even when playing ( only have 4 or 5 before the game in those days though😂). Hard one to sort out, some are a nuisance stone cold sober while some are quite mellow after a beer or two. There's being a nuisance on the one hand and being dangerous on the other, the coin thrower is a dangerous person. Perhaps it’s up to us to blow the whistle on them, not confrontational, just discreetly point them out to a steward, could be your eye they’re taking out next time. Don’t know if we’ve got more dicks than other clubs, s’pose you’d have to go away with them to find out.
Don't mind having a few pints before the match but you'll never see me get absolutely steaming at the game ...... what's the fcuking point?
Would rather be sober enjoying the footy :thumbup:
Can remember seeing fans passed out 10 minutes into the FA Cup semi and FA Cup final.
It's not just alcohol though. Go into the toilets at any away game and try to get in a cubicle for a s4it. They're usually doubled up with a load of coke heads snorting like there's no tomorrow.
Wasn’t that purely down to Russel slades brand of football??
OurManFlint II
13-08-18, 21:40
Is this thread fair?
Well the straight answer is obviously no.
Its an opinion articulated without any facts and is purely anecdotal, It's much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum, hence the current political scenarios we are in.
OurManFlint II
13-08-18, 21:44
Well the straight answer is obviously no.
Its an opinion articulated without any facts and is purely anecdotal, It's much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum, hence the current political scenarios we are in.
And before anybody gets clever, riddle me this...england away :facepalm:
Well the straight answer is obviously no.
Its an opinion articulated without any facts and is purely anecdotal, It's much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum, hence the current political scenarios we are in.
The evidence is empirical.
Croesy Blue
14-08-18, 00:16
Well the straight answer is obviously no.
Its an opinion articulated without any facts and is purely anecdotal, It's much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum, hence the current political scenarios we are in.
Have you never been away? The only time I’ve been away (100s of times) and not seen a group of complete dick heads is when there’s only a tiny number there.
Fulham traveller
14-08-18, 00:36
You gets idiots who have a drink and do stupid things, I think Cardiff fans are the most improved fans, 15+ years ago met a few away fans on there travels and not pleasant, so tnis is minor and should be stamped out, this could be any idiot from any club
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