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Organ Morgan.
13-06-19, 19:48
The pretext to bomb Iran has been made.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPI2CBBABxk&feature=youtu.be

life on mars
13-06-19, 20:14
As Marvin Gaye famously sang "lets get it on "

Organ Morgan.
13-06-19, 20:17
We are supposed to believe that while the Iranian government was hosting a visit by the Japanese Prime Minister in Tehran it decided to attack a Japanese tanker.

Iran's Foreign Minister is quoted as saying: "suspicious doesn't begin to describe attack on Japanese tanker during Abe's state visit." Even the rabid warmongers at CNN were forced to concede he made "an indisputably obvious good point."

For Pompeo to state publicly the evidence is compelling then the Orange dotard must be in agreement.

life on mars
13-06-19, 20:48
We are supposed to believe that while the Iranian government was hosting a visit by the Japanese Prime Minister in Tehran it decided to attack a Japanese tanker.

Iran's Foreign Minister is quoted as saying: "suspicious doesn't begin to describe attack on Japanese tanker during Abe's state visit." Even the rabid warmongers at CNN were forced to concede he made "an indisputably obvious good point."

For Pompeo to state publicly the evidence is compelling then the Orange dotard must be in agreement.

I'm guessing you know who fired an alledged torpedo , very close too Irans naval base .

I'm sure someone has some sonar readings and they will be released .

Gotta a feeling were heading to the "Russians weren't in Salisbury " white helmets in Syria are naughty chaps, and Isreal/ America are controlling the world ,moment .

Organ Morgan.
13-06-19, 22:45
Outside of Pompeo, Trump and his hardcore slack-jawed hillbilly fanbase it's been difficult finding anyone who doesn't believe this was an amateurish false flag operation.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8-TOKcWsAAdhN4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8-XFR2W4AIHBJy.jpg

Taunton Blue Genie
14-06-19, 06:44
We are supposed to believe that while the Iranian government was hosting a visit by the Japanese Prime Minister in Tehran it decided to attack a Japanese tanker.

Iran's Foreign Minister is quoted as saying: "suspicious doesn't begin to describe attack on Japanese tanker during Abe's state visit." Even the rabid warmongers at CNN were forced to concede he made "an indisputably obvious good point."

For Pompeo to state publicly the evidence is compelling then the Orange dotard must be in agreement.

Instantly disbelieving is as bad as instantly believing. Best wait and see....

Wales-Bales
14-06-19, 07:49
Instantly disbelieving is as bad as instantly believing. Best wait and see....
I made a similar thread a few weeks ago about Saudi ships being attacked. I started it on the main board because I knew the story was going to get bigger. In fact, I knew exactly what was going to come next. This post is actually just an extension of the thread I made, so it's not exactly "instantly disbelieving".

Taunton Blue Genie
14-06-19, 09:09
I made a similar thread a few weeks ago about Saudi ships being attacked. I started it on the main board because I knew the story was going to get bigger. In fact, I knew exactly what was going to come next. This post is actually just an extension of the thread I made, so it's not exactly "instantly disbelieving".

My comment was not aimed at you. I don't find you someone who can debate with any maturity and you know that I don't interact with you on here as a result.

Wales-Bales
14-06-19, 09:29
My comment was not aimed at you. I don't find you someone who can debate with any maturity and you know that I don't interact with you on here as a result.
Is this because I predicted the outcome of the Kavanaugh stitch-up? I seem to recall you were not very receptive to the truth, and it was frustrating to see your preference for the biased media version of events. It was like watching a replay of lardy and his Trump Russia Collusion Delusion saga. The truth is brutal, and sometimes people have to be hit over the head with it. Don't take offence old fruit, I have your best interests at heart, and you are usually a good sport :thumbup:

Taunton Blue Genie
14-06-19, 10:00
Is this because I predicted the outcome of the Kavanaugh stitch-up? I seem to recall you were not very receptive to the truth, and it was frustrating to see your preference for the biased media version of events. It was like watching a replay of lardy and his Trump Russia Collusion Delusion saga. The truth is brutal, and sometimes people have to be hit over the head with it. Don't take offence old fruit, I have your best interests at heart, and you are usually a good sport :thumbup:

Your ego prevented you and continues to prevent you correctly representing others people's views. If you are as clever as you think you are you would realise how often you do it. Don't expect any further replies.

Mrs Steve R
14-06-19, 10:17
The pretext to bomb Iran has been made.


Wesley Clark said it was coming.

Wales-Bales
14-06-19, 10:45
Your ego prevented you and continues to prevent you correctly representing others people's views. If you are as clever as you think you are you would realise how often you do it. Don't expect any further replies.
The moment 18 Democrat senators signed a letter on the strength of Avanatti's new star witness, stating that Kavanaugh was a sexual preditor, is the moment everybody should have called it BS on the entire farce. However, many continued with the hoax, unable to turn away due to long-term media conditioning. Those are the facts whether you like them or not, and nothing you say is going to change that.

And you can forget the ego and being clever nonsense because I used to be just like you, so I know how you feel :biggrin:

Wales-Bales
14-06-19, 10:56
Wesley Clark said it was coming.
Some people said the Trump Russia Collusion was a hoax, but nobody would listen. Instead they responded with ridicule, derogatory comments, and character assignations. And then somebody called out Avenatti, and TBG refuses to talk to them. What a world we live in, hey? It seems that two rights do make a wrong for those wearing blinkers :biggrin:

life on mars
14-06-19, 11:00
oh dear


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-blames-iran-for-attack-on-oil-tankers-releases-video-purporting-to-show-iranians-removing-mine/ar-AACQYNW?ocid=spartanntp

Taunton Blue Genie
14-06-19, 13:33
The moment 18 Democrat senators signed a letter on the strength of Avanatti's new star witness, stating that Kavanaugh was a sexual preditor, is the moment everybody should have called it BS on the entire farce. However, many continued with the hoax, unable to turn away due to long-term media conditioning. Those are the facts whether you like them or not, and nothing you say is going to change that.

And you can forget the ego and being clever nonsense because I used to be just like you, so I know how you feel :biggrin:

QED.

Organ Morgan.
14-06-19, 16:05
oh dear


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-blames-iran-for-attack-on-oil-tankers-releases-video-purporting-to-show-iranians-removing-mine/ar-AACQYNW?ocid=spartanntp

I realise you're always desperate to keep believing that your goodies are not in reality the baddies in spite of the mountains of evidence to the contrary. The image I posted further up the thread lists all the dirty deeds the Yanks have perpetrated over the past 75 years, often with UK support, that have killed and/or ruined the lives of millions.

Jurors would have to stifle laughter if that murky video at your link was presented as smoking gun evidence in a court case. The figures in it are more likely to be recently laid off White Helmets who are now on zero hour contracts.

Tanker owner seems to dispute U.S. account of Gulf of Oman attack - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oil-tanker-attacks-gulf-of-oman-tanker-owner-seems-to-dispute-us-account-of-gulf-of-oman-attack-today-2019-06-14/

Trump said today that the attacks had “Iran written all over it” and dismissed Iran as “a nation of terror.” It would be funny if not so serious.

Veg1960
14-06-19, 17:13
I realise you're always desperate to keep believing that your goodies are not in reality the baddies in spite of the mountains of evidence to the contrary. The image I posted further up the thread lists all the dirty deeds the Yanks have perpetrated over the past 75 years, often with UK support, that have killed and/or ruined the lives of millions.

Jurors would have to stifle laughter if that murky video at your link was presented as smoking gun evidence in a court case. The figures in it are more likely to be recently laid off White Helmets who are now on zero hour contracts.

Tanker owner seems to dispute U.S. account of Gulf of Oman attack - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oil-tanker-attacks-gulf-of-oman-tanker-owner-seems-to-dispute-us-account-of-gulf-of-oman-attack-today-2019-06-14/

Trump said today that the attacks had “Iran written all over it” and dismissed Iran as “a nation of terror.” It would be funny if not so serious.

You aren't always a bundle of laughs, but that did make me chuckle

life on mars
14-06-19, 17:33
Outside of Pompeo, Trump and his hardcore slack-jawed hillbilly fanbase it's been difficult finding anyone who doesn't believe this was an amateurish false flag operation.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8-TOKcWsAAdhN4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8-XFR2W4AIHBJy.jpg

Glad someone is policing the world and delivering freedom and democracy , just imagine that lot managing themselves , a lot of them should say thanks , as they are now thriving economies .

Can' t believe the Iran lean slate ,surely they have killed someone, or paid someone to do it, or bought arms ,or invaded some land or ,sent troops into another country .

You sure they are that clean ???

Organ Morgan.
14-06-19, 19:38
As it happens, I believe Iran along with Russia, China, North Korea and Cuba (the baddies) are controlled at their highest levels by the same interests who run all the goodies. An easy tell with regard to Iran is that any ordinary person involving themselves in Masonic activities would be executed by the state, while their Parliament building which was opened this century is a homage to Freemasonry. All it's missing is the Eye of Horus. I posted an image of it in another thread not so long back, it's a pyramid shape that has 33 windows. A pyramid and the number 33 are the most important Masonic symbols.

I also quite recently made mention of Albert Pike, a 33rd degree Mason, and his 1871 letter in which he envisaged three world wars to accomplish a New World Order, AKA absolute control of the entire planet. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?439079-Two-Saudi-oil-tankers-targeted-in-a-%93sabotage-attack%94-off-UAE&p=4973959&viewfull=1#post4973959

Mrs Steve R
14-06-19, 20:25
Some people said the Trump Russia Collusion was a hoax, but nobody would listen. Instead they responded with ridicule, derogatory comments, and character assignations. And then somebody called out Avenatti, and TBG refuses to talk to them. What a world we live in, hey? It seems that two rights do make a wrong for those wearing blinkers :biggrin:
I used to get the same for slagging off the BBC :biggrin:

Organ Morgan.
14-06-19, 20:36
BBC fanatics with debating skills have removed themselves from this forum. The few that remain sometimes weigh in with an inane comment.

Mrs Steve R
14-06-19, 20:44
BBC fanatics with debating skills have removed themselves from this forum. The few that remain sometimes weigh in with an inane comment.
:hehe:

Wales-Bales
14-06-19, 21:30
BBC fanatics with debating skills have removed themselves from this forum. The few that remain sometimes weigh in with an inane comment.
What are the minimum number of hours required to qualify as a fanatic? 28 hours a week? Or maybe 20 hours + 10 hours on the Guardian website?

the other bob wilson
15-06-19, 05:36
What are the minimum number of hours required to qualify as a fanatic? 28 hours a week? Or maybe 20 hours + 10 hours on the Guardian website?

About ten less than you put in on alt right sites I'd guess.

Wales-Bales
15-06-19, 09:33
About ten less than you put in on alt right sites I'd guess.
I get all my info from Twitter in 5 minutes a day. If I want to double check ,I look at what lardy posts and assume the opposite. It works well :biggrin:

Wales-Bales
15-06-19, 09:44
QED.
I will pray for your sensitive soul.

PS Sincere apologies for shattering the image of your hero Avanatti, although I did try to warn you that anything he is involved in is a big scam.

:biggrin:

Taunton Blue Genie
15-06-19, 11:54
I will pray for your sensitive soul.

PS Sincere apologies for shattering the image of your hero Avanatti, although I did try to warn you that anything he is involved in is a big scam.

:biggrin:

You have proved my point about misrepresenting other people's views yet again. Find a quote that backs up what you just wrote about Avanatti. No fudging, no meandering, no going off at tangents. Find a quote. Or simply admit you are wrong.
We all know how this will go....

Wales-Bales
15-06-19, 13:14
You have proved my point about misrepresenting other people's views yet again. Find a quote that backs up what you just wrote about Avanatti. No fudging, no meandering, no going off at tangents. Find a quote. Or simply admit you are wrong.
We all know how this will go....
I was just seeing if you would reply to me when you said you wouldn't :biggrin:

Taunton Blue Genie
15-06-19, 13:38
I was just seeing if you would reply to me when you said you wouldn't :biggrin:

It was one last and vain attempt to prove to you that you are a liar and a bullsh1tter. I think you just proved it to me and everyone else yet again.

No doubt you will come up with some smarmy reply that you think is clever. However, I'll leave you to fabricating arguments in order for you to think that you win them.

As I previously wrote, you are unable to engage in mature debate.

Wales-Bales
15-06-19, 13:56
It was one last and vain attempt to prove to you that you are a liar and a bullsh1tter. I think you just proved it to me and everyone else yet again.

No doubt you will come up with some smarmy reply that you think is clever. However, I'll leave you to fabricating arguments in order for you to think that you win them.

As I previously wrote, you are unable to engage in mature debate.
How can I be a liar when I was right about Kavanaugh? The whole thing was a scam.

Wales-Bales
15-06-19, 14:43
It was one last and vain attempt to prove to you that you are a liar and a bullsh1tter. I think you just proved it to me and everyone else yet again.

No doubt you will come up with some smarmy reply that you think is clever. However, I'll leave you to fabricating arguments in order for you to think that you win them.

As I previously wrote, you are unable to engage in mature debate.
BTW I set out the scam line by line and you still couldn't see it. And now you are writing all this rubbish, for what purpose? It's not going to change the fact that you couldn't see the truth if it hit you in the face. I tried to help you, and now you treat me like this. I am a bit disappointed, but also used to dealing with people like you, so I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Heathblue
16-06-19, 12:52
It's a removal of an alleged Obama deep state policy (the IRAN nuke deal), unlike Obamacare which was an internal policy and possibly a better solution implemented, this step is a bit alarming in where it could go, although and to the disappointment of political experts at the BBC, we didn't get WWIII over North Korea.

Heathblue
16-06-19, 13:00
It's a removal of an alleged Obama deep state policy (the IRAN nuke deal), unlike Obamacare which was an internal policy and possibly a better solution implemented, this step is a bit alarming in where it could go, although and to the disappointment of political experts at the BBC, we didn't get WWIII over North Korea.

3117

Wales-Bales
16-06-19, 13:06
Speaking hypothetically, if he was behind the coup, wouldn't the birth issue pop up again? I mean he would have to testify under oath, wouldn't he?

Taunton Blue Genie
16-06-19, 14:46
BTW I set out the scam line by line and you still couldn't see it. And now you are writing all this rubbish, for what purpose? It's not going to change the fact that you couldn't see the truth if it hit you in the face. I tried to help you, and now you treat me like this. I am a bit disappointed, but also used to dealing with people like you, so I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Still no evidence to back up your comment then? No surprises there.

Heathblue
16-06-19, 15:17
[QUOTE=Wales-Bales;4980652]Speaking hypothetically, if he was behind the coup, wouldn't the birth issue pop up again? I mean he would have to testify under oath, wouldn't he?[/QUOTE

He sealed his records didn't he? One of if not his first executive order, only on fone at the moment so not arsed in fact checking this TBH I'm not too bothered about him, it's the hilder beast I would like to see in an orange jumpsuit.

Wales-Bales
16-06-19, 15:25
[QUOTE=Wales-Bales;4980652]He sealed his records didn't he? One of if not his first executive order, only on fone at the moment so not arsed in fact checking this TBH I'm not too bothered about him, it's the hilder beast I would like to see in an orange jumpsuit.
All subjects of criminal investigations have their backgrounds probed, so not sure if they would remain hidden?

life on mars
16-06-19, 19:57
Another conspiracy or real mine laying moment a long time ago, suggests Iran it has history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF4r2nYHGIg

This ship was discovered laying mines in the Persian Gulf and disabled by AH-6 helicopters. The vessel crew were rescued and transported to the USS Guadalcanal for medical treatment.

A quote

" Iran's Foreign Affairs Minister Javad Zarif said at an event at the Asia Society here. Zarif warned that if the US takes the "crazy measure" of trying to prevent Iran from continuing to sell its oil "then it should be prepared for the consequences."