Guardiola vs Warnock - Different Philosophies, Same Inspiration

[Heathblue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x2AFPXfrBs

[cyril evans awaydays]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x2AFPXfrBs

Even given the dubious equivalence, I'm sure that in 20 years, Guardiola might look old school against the coaches of the day

[life on mars]

There's no doubting eithers inspiration and commitment to the game .

I admire Warnock , he has survived to a ripe old age and manahed through huge changes in the game , probaly more than Pepe is more born into the modern game .

I wonder if Pepe makes it to 70 still mangaing and competing as the game moves on and beyond him .

I hope he has a Sharon to guide him.

[cyril evans awaydays]

There's no doubting eithers inspiration and commitment to the game .

I admire Warnock , he has survived to a ripe old age and manahed through huge changes in the game , probaly more than Pepe is more born into the modern game .

I wonder if Pepe makes it to 70 still mangaing and competing as the game moves on and beyond him .

I hope he has a Sharon to guide him.

If he doesn't have a Sharon I guess all he will have to fall back on is his two storey cabinet of Europe's top trophies

[Heathblue]

If he doesn't have a Sharon I guess all he will have to fall back on is his two storey cabinet of Europe's top trophies

I would guess that a player who say had been with Warnock for 10 years would end his time having had a better laugh, than a player who had done 10 years with Guardiola, wouldn't be so rich in monetary wealth or trophies in the bedside cabinet, but would be far more entertaining in the pub on a Sunday afternoon after a sesh.

[cyril evans awaydays]

I would guess that a player who say had been with Warnock for 10 years would end his time having had a better laugh, than a player who had done 10 years with Guardiola, wouldn't be so rich in monetary wealth or trophies in the bedside cabinet, but would be far more entertaining in the pub on a Sunday afternoon after a sesh.

I guess on the basis of the OP that the argument is that Warnock can bring the equivalent level of inspiration to Pep forthe players that they had at their disposal. Fair enough.

The idea that if you swapped those managers for their teams and Warnock would have made Pep's team better than Pep would have made Warnock's is basically laughable!

[J R Hartley]

There's no doubting eithers inspiration and commitment to the game .

I admire Warnock , he has survived to a ripe old age and manahed through huge changes in the game , probaly more than Pepe is more born into the modern game .

I wonder if Pepe makes it to 70 still mangaing and competing as the game moves on and beyond him .

I hope he has a Sharon to guide him.

Born into the modern game??

His legacy is he, more than any other manager, helped shape and create the modern game.

[life on mars]

Born into the modern game??

His legacy is he, more than any other manager, helped shape and create the modern game.

He didnt invent it though he grew with it alongside like minded experts and managers, along with a shit load of money to buy the very best , so he was on a win win .

Love to see Pepe's output if he was at Bury , bet Warnock would deliver a better result if both were given 6 months each to turn it around .

[J R Hartley]

He didnt invent it though he grew with it alongside like minded experts and managers, along with a shit load of money to buy the very best , so he was on a win win .

Love to see Pepe's output if he was at Bury , bet Warnock would deliver a better result if both were given 6 months each to turn it around .

Name me a manager more responsible for the way the modern game is played.?

He’s the most successful manager of the modern era for a reason and it’s not just down to money. His first job as Barca was to get rid of the 3 big name players.

[dembethewarrior]

He didnt invent it though he grew with it alongside like minded experts and managers, along with a shit load of money to buy the very best , so he was on a win win .

Love to see Pepe's output if he was at Bury , bet Warnock would deliver a better result if both were given 6 months each to turn it around .
https://www.transfermarkt.com/pep-guardiola/spielertransfers/trainer/5672/plus/0?station_id=28649

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

He didnt invent it though he grew with it alongside like minded experts and managers, along with a shit load of money to buy the very best , so he was on a win win .

Love to see Pepe's output if he was at Bury , bet Warnock would deliver a better result if both were given 6 months each to turn it around .

You don’t have to manage teams like Torquay to glory to prove you are the best though.

The same way that Messi or Ronaldo don’t have to win the premier league with Stoke to prove they are the best players in the world.

[goats]

Even given the dubious equivalence, I'm sure that in 20 years, Guardiola might look old school against the coaches of the day

Didn’t pep just take the cruyff idea of total football to a slightly new level? It was the man himself who brought his ideology to the non camp in the 80’s was it not?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

He didnt invent it though he grew with it alongside like minded experts and managers, along with a shit load of money to buy the very best , so he was on a win win .

Love to see Pepe's output if he was at Bury , bet Warnock would deliver a better result if both were given 6 months each to turn it around .

Similarly it would be hilarious to see Warnock at Barcelona or Man City

[the other bob wilson]

He didnt invent it though he grew with it alongside like minded experts and managers, along with a shit load of money to buy the very best , so he was on a win win .

Love to see Pepe's output if he was at Bury , bet Warnock would deliver a better result if both were given 6 months each to turn it around .

I think I'd take the risk and hire Pep if I were in charge of Bury.

[William Treseder]

It is just down to money. Pep couldn’t win the champions league with Glasgow Rangers or Celtic, no more than Neil Lennon or Stevie G could.
He can’t even win it with Man City, and they’ve got billions.
Horses for courses,

[J R Hartley]

It is just down to money. Pep couldn’t win the champions league with Glasgow Rangers or Celtic, no more than Neil Lennon or Stevie G could.
He can’t even win it with Man City, and they’ve got billions.
Horses for courses,

Yes, all down to money, nothing to do with Peps coaching. Thats why Man U are back to the top of the tree because of the money theyve spent.

Oh, wait a minute.....

[J R Hartley]

It is just down to money. Pep couldn’t win the champions league with Glasgow Rangers or Celtic, no more than Neil Lennon or Stevie G could.
He can’t even win it with Man City, and they’ve got billions.
Horses for courses,

You think Neil Lennon could win the league with Man City? With the record number of points and style that Pep has done it?

[dembethewarrior]

The Celtic point is a bit silly really. It’s an achievement for them to get into the groups and an outstanding one to get them out of it.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

You think Neil Lennon could win the league with Man City? With the record number of points and style that Pep has done it?

The way he's going he's struggling to win the SPL with Celtic.

[William Treseder]

You think Neil Lennon could win the league with Man City? With the record number of points and style that Pep has done it?
I’d say Neil Lennon would have a much better chance of winning the premiership with Man City than Pep would have winning the champions league with either Celtic or Rangers.

[William Treseder]

The Celtic point is a bit silly really. It’s an achievement for them to get into the groups and an outstanding one to get them out of it.

Because they’ve not got the money that Man City have.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I’d say Neil Lennon would have a much better chance of winning the premiership with Man City than Pep would have winning the champions league with either Celtic or Rangers.

Leighton James has more chance of winning the Premier League with Citeh than Guardiola has of winning the CL with a Scottish team.

[dembethewarrior]

Because they’ve not got the money that Man City have.

I reckon pep would get them further than they’ve been in the CL before Lennon won the PL with Man City.

I would happily bet everything I’ve got on that.

[William Treseder]

I reckon pep would get them further than they’ve been in the CL before Lennon won the PL with Man City.

I would happily bet everything I’ve got on that.
You can only polish a turd so much.

[William Treseder]

Leighton James has more chance of winning the Premier League with Citeh than Guardiola has of winning the CL with a Scottish team.

As I said above. Horses for courses.

[splott parker]

Leighton James has more chance of winning the Premier League with Citeh than Guardiola has of winning the CL with a Scottish team.
Could Pep get school kids across a road whilst full of drink though?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Could Pep get school kids across a road whilst full of drink though?

He'd get them dribbling around moving cars and nutmegging pedestrians. Perhaps he falls short in the inane, drunken swearing at kids stake.

[dembethewarrior]

You can only polish a turd so much.
KO games v a 38 game slog.


Know who I’ll be siding with.

[J R Hartley]

I’d say Neil Lennon would have a much better chance of winning the premiership with Man City than Pep would have winning the champions league with either Celtic or Rangers.

Then why are Man City paying Pep what they pay him when they could just bring in Neil Lennon or Neil Warnock on a fraction of his wages?

[Tuerto]

Then why are Man City paying Pep what they pay him when they could just bring in Neil Lennon or Neil Warnock on a fraction of his wages?

I'd love to see that, Warnock in charge of Man City for a seasom 'He's a smashing lad is De brooner, Just needs to get the ball up to the big man a bit quicker' I love it me'

[William Treseder]

Then why are Man City paying Pep what they pay him when they could just bring in Neil Lennon or Neil Warnock on a fraction of his wages?

They might if he keeps losing to teams like Norwich and Wolves.

[dembethewarrior]

They might if he keeps losing to teams like Norwich and Wolves.
But they won’t, will they.

[William Treseder]

But they won’t, will they.

Well he can afford to splash out on a few good defenders in January can’t he?
That’s the difference when you’ve got pots of dough.

[dembethewarrior]

Well he can afford to splash out on a few good defenders in January can’t he?
That’s the difference when you’ve got pots of dough.

They won’t replace him with a shite manager...

[J R Hartley]

Well he can afford to splash out on a few good defenders in January can’t he?
That’s the difference when you’ve got pots of dough.
Well answer the question you’ve avoided. If it’s just about spending the cash why ain’t Man U up there with Liverpool and City?

[William Treseder]

Well answer the question you’ve avoided. If it’s just about spending the cash why ain’t Man U up there with Liverpool and City?

That’s obvious. They’ve not spent wisely.
It’s also difficult to attract top class players when you’re not in the champions league.

[dembethewarrior]

That’s obvious. They’ve not spent wisely.
It’s also difficult to attract top class players when you’re not in the champions league.

Would Lennon spend the money Pep has spent at City wisely?

[lardy]

That’s obvious. They’ve not spent wisely.
It’s also difficult to attract top class players when you’re not in the champions league.

Players would rather play for a modern legend like Pep than Ole.

[William Treseder]

At the end of the day, Pep was brought in by Man City, to win the champions league, and so far, with all the money and talent they have, he’s failed miserably.
Then again, he’s not got the likes of Messi or Iniesta etc this time.
This thread is about comparing the likes of Pep against the likes of Warnock.
Neither one could have achieved what the other one has.
Surely we all agree on that?

[the other bob wilson]

At the end of the day, Pep was brought in by Man City, to win the champions league, and so far, with all the money and talent they have, he’s failed miserably.
Then again, he’s not got the likes of Messi or Iniesta etc this time.
This thread is about comparing the likes of Pep against the likes of Warnock.
Neither one could have achieved what the other one has.
Surely we all agree on that?

No, Warnock has only ever managed sides destined to struggle when he's had teams in the top flight, but his record is poor. On the other hand, Guardiola has never had to "slum it" in his managerial career. There may not be any evidence that he would succeed at a club like Bury, or even Cardiff, but there's none that he'd fail either - if he suddenly says in a couple of months time that he's enjoyed his time at Man City, but he really came to the UK to manage Cardiff, I'd risk telling Warnock thank you and goodbye and take a punt on Pep.

[dembethewarrior]

At the end of the day, Pep was brought in by Man City, to win the champions league, and so far, with all the money and talent they have, he’s failed miserably.
Then again, he’s not got the likes of Messi or Iniesta etc this time.
This thread is about comparing the likes of Pep against the likes of Warnock.
Neither one could have achieved what the other one has.
Surely we all agree on that?

No

[J R Hartley]

That’s obvious. They’ve not spent wisely.
It’s also difficult to attract top class players when you’re not in the champions league.

Man U struggle to attract players. :hehe:

They were in the champions league last year, and the year before so that argument is redundant anyway.

They also had world class players and still struggled, so its clearly up to the manager to get the best out of the players.

Do you think if Soljskaer was in charge of City or Liverpool and Pep or Klopp were in charge of United, and had the money United have spent the last 5 years to build something that there would be such a gap? Not a chance.

To just dismiss any managers success as "oh he had the money to spend" is a nonsense. Its not like hes the only manager whos had money to spend. Real Madrid spent more than Barcelona in Peps time in charge of Barcelona for starters.

Also, going back to Pep, he has turned Raheem Sterling into a world class player. NQAT.

[J R Hartley]

At the end of the day, Pep was brought in by Man City, to win the champions league, and so far, with all the money and talent they have, he’s failed miserably.
Then again, he’s not got the likes of Messi or Iniesta etc this time.
This thread is about comparing the likes of Pep against the likes of Warnock.
Neither one could have achieved what the other one has.
Surely we all agree on that?

Why couldnt Pep win promotion from the Championship?

The likes of Phil Brown, Steve Bruce, Alex McCleish, Nigel Pearson.etc can get teams up from the Championship but Pep couldnt? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

[William Treseder]

Why couldnt Pep win promotion from the Championship?

The likes of Phil Brown, Steve Bruce, Alex McCleish, Nigel Pearson.etc can get teams up from the Championship but Pep couldnt? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

I’m talking about a record of 8 promotions.
A lot of posters on this thread seem to be belittling Warnocks achievements.
Peps trophy haul is about as impressive as you can get, But he’s had the luxury of coaching the best players in the world.
He’s so far failed to win the champions league with Bayern, and he’s not won it with Man City.

[J R Hartley]

I’m talking about a record of 8 promotions.
A lot of posters on this thread seem to be belittling Warnocks achievements.
Peps trophy haul is about as impressive as you can get, But he’s had the luxury of coaching the best players in the world.
He’s so far failed to win the champions league with Bayern, and he’s not won it with Man City.

Boo hoo. He hasnt won a certain cup competition in a few years. Fergie only won it twice in 20 years and hes regarded as the best manager to ever mange on these shores. Pep is winning leagues with record amounts of points and won 5 of the last 6 domestic competitions.

You think if Pep was managing in the lower leagues for 40 years he couldnt win 8 promotions? He won a promotion in his one and only season in charge of a side not playing in the top tier.

[William Treseder]

Boo hoo. He hasnt won a certain cup competition in a few years. Fergie only won it twice in 20 years and hes regarded as the best manager to ever mange on these shores. Pep is winning leagues with record amounts of points and won 5 of the last 6 domestic competitions.

You think if Pep was managing in the lower leagues for 40 years he couldnt win 8 promotions? He won a promotion in his one and only season in charge of a side not playing in the top tier.
It’s not just a certain cup completion though is it?
It’s what Man City are paying him big bucks for, and so far he’s failed.

[J R Hartley]

It’s not just a certain cup completion though is it?
It’s what Man City are paying him big bucks for, and so far he’s failed.

They are paying him big bucks to establish themselves as one of the best teams in the world, which he has regardless of the fact he hasnt won the CL with them in just 3 attempts. He has taken them to a different level of his predecessors and the football is of a style and swagger not seen in this country before.

You think the Man City heirachy would say hes failed his remit?

"Sorry Pep, we are going to have to let you go mate. Do you have the number for Neil Lennons agent?"

[lardy]

It’s not just a certain cup completion though is it?
It’s what Man City are paying him big bucks for, and so far he’s failed.

If they wanted a guaranteed champions league win, man city should have got....Who exactly?

[dembethewarrior]

It’s a bit stupid to think you can just throw money at the CL and win it when you’ve got Barca, Real, PSG, Bayern, Juve, Liverpool etc all capable of winning it.

He’s hardly done shit has he because he hasn’t won it.

Look at how much better Man City are on the pitch for starters :hehe:

And it’s not about 8 promotions is it, it was about Lennon and Celtic earlier.
You’ve moved the goal posts about 50 times in this thread and still won’t give up.

[William Treseder]

Fu*k sake it’s like tag bitching on here.
Sorry to be having a pop at Pep guys.
I know some of you hold him in such high regard, but going back to the gist of the post, when it comes to football management, certain jobs suit certain managers. Always has done, always will. Warnocks your man for getting out of the championship, peps your man to introduce scintillating football.
One of the best pieces of football management has to be Jock Stein winning the European cup with 11 players who all bar one, were born within a 30 mile radius of Parkhead, or Clough getting promoted to the old 1st División with Forest and winning it the next season, and the European cup twice,or Shankley and Paisley sweeping all before them with Liverpool, or Fergie and his youngsters sweeping all before them.
For all Peps style and panache, and all the dough at his disposal, he’s 8 points behind his biggest rivals already, and still hasn't won the big one with them.
By the way, some of the football Arsenal played under Wenger was every bit as good as Peps Man City.

[J R Hartley]

If they wanted a guaranteed champions league win, man city should have got....Who exactly?

Neil Lennon?

[J R Hartley]

It’s a bit stupid to think you can just throw money at the CL and win it when you’ve got Barca, Real, PSG, Bayern, Juve, Liverpool etc all capable of winning it.

He’s hardly done shit has he because he hasn’t won it.

Look at how much better Man City are on the pitch for starters :hehe:

And it’s not about 8 promotions is it, it was about Lennon and Celtic earlier.
You’ve moved the goal posts about 50 times in this thread and still won’t give up.

You can always rely on the flower man to throw in some pointless hypothetical comparison.

[William Treseder]

Neil Lennon?
Well obviously not Pep!

[dembethewarrior]

Tag bitching?

I’ve posted on my own accord, I’m hardly in cahoots.

I also don’t care you’ve got a different opinion on Pep, you’ve not bothered me one bit, I’ve countered some points you’ve made that I just don’t think are really good.

I forgot you get all pouty on here.

I’ll be stalking you next.

[William Treseder]

Tag bitching?

I’ve posted on my own accord, I’m hardly in cahoots.

I also don’t care you’ve got a different opinion on Pep, you’ve not bothered me one bit, I’ve countered some points you’ve made that I just don’t think are really good.

I forgot you get all pouty on here.

I’ll be stalking you next.
Have you remembered to tag Lardy and Hartley?
Mind you, Hartleys probably staring at his poster of Pep on his bedroom wall and firing one off at the moment

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I’m talking about a record of 8 promotions.
A lot of posters on this thread seem to be belittling Warnocks achievements.
Peps trophy haul is about as impressive as you can get, But he’s had the luxury of coaching the best players in the world.
He’s so far failed to win the champions league with Bayern, and he’s not won it with Man City.

Do you not think that the reason managers, like Warnock, win 8 promotions and managers, like Pep, Fergie, Mourinho and other successful managers at the top end of the game, haven't won all those promotions is that Warnock isn't quite good enough for the top division? Pep is not going to win 8 promotions as he's not going to spend all that time in lower divisions. Warnock has had to because top flight teams have not fancied giving him a go.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I wouldn't even compare Warnock to Graham Taylor.

[J R Hartley]

Have you remembered to tag Lardy and Hartley?
Mind you, Hartleys probably staring at his poster of Pep on his bedroom wall and firing one off at the moment

Dont cry mate

[J R Hartley]

Do you not think that the reason managers, like Warnock, win 8 promotions and managers, like Pep, Fergie, Mourinho and other successful managers at the top end of the game, haven't won all those promotions is that Warnock isn't quite good enough for the top division? Pep is not going to win 8 promotions as he's not going to spend all that time in lower divisions. Warnock has had to because top flight teams have not fancied giving him a go.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I wouldn't even compare Warnock to Graham Taylor.

Youd swear Warnock only has to manage in the championship and he will get a side promoted. Far from it.

Hes got 8 promotions (Not all to the top tier I may add) in 30+ attempts. A decent strike rate no doubt but Sean Dyche has got 2 in 4. Steve Bruce must have a decent strike rate too.

[the other bob wilson]

Fu*k sake it’s like tag bitching on here.
Sorry to be having a pop at Pep guys.
I know some of you hold him in such high regard, but going back to the gist of the post, when it comes to football management, certain jobs suit certain managers. Always has done, always will. Warnocks your man for getting out of the championship, peps your man to introduce scintillating football.
One of the best pieces of football management has to be Jock Stein winning the European cup with 11 players who all bar one, were born within a 30 mile radius of Parkhead, or Clough getting promoted to the old 1st División with Forest and winning it the next season, and the European cup twice,or Shankley and Paisley sweeping all before them with Liverpool, or Fergie and his youngsters sweeping all before them.
For all Peps style and panache, and all the dough at his disposal, he’s 8 points behind his biggest rivals already, and still hasn't won the big one with them.
By the way, some of the football Arsenal played under Wenger was every bit as good as Peps Man City.

Only a half of Warnock's eight promotions have been from the second tier to the first, so, in essence, he's got a side promoted to the First Division/Premier League once a decade over the period of his time in management - a good record considering that a lot of the seasons he has spent in the job were in the lower divisions, but not as good as suggested by falling back on the eight promotions line.

As I implied in my previous message in this thread, you're making the assumption that Guardiola would not be a success at a lower level then the Premier League or its equivalent in other countries, but there is no evidence out there that this would be the case. In fact, as J R Hartley says, he has a 100 per cent promotion record in the lower divisions in Spain as he guided Barcelona B to the third tier of football in that country to the fourth in his one season with them. So, there is a small amount of evidence that he could manage effectively at a lower level.

[William Treseder]

Only a half of Warnock's eight promotions have been from the second tier to the first, so, in essence, he's got a side promoted to the First Division/Premier League once a decade over the period of his time in management - a good record considering that a lot of the seasons he has spent in the job were in the lower divisions, but not as good as suggested by falling back on the eight promotions line.

As I implied in my previous message in this thread, you're making the assumption that Guardiola would not be a success at a lower level then the Premier League or its equivalent in other countries, but there is no evidence out there that this would be the case. In fact, as J R Hartley says, he has a 100 per cent promotion record in the lower divisions in Spain as he guided Barcelona B to the third tier of football in that country to the fourth in his one season with them. So, there is a small amount of evidence that he could manage effectively at a lower level.
Well soon find out when he comes to us 😂

[dembethewarrior]

Only a half of Warnock's eight promotions have been from the second tier to the first, so, in essence, he's got a side promoted to the First Division/Premier League once a decade over the period of his time in management - a good record considering that a lot of the seasons he has spent in the job were in the lower divisions, but not as good as suggested by falling back on the eight promotions line.

As I implied in my previous message in this thread, you're making the assumption that Guardiola would not be a success at a lower level then the Premier League or its equivalent in other countries, but there is no evidence out there that this would be the case. In fact, as J R Hartley says, he has a 100 per cent promotion record in the lower divisions in Spain as he guided Barcelona B to the third tier of football in that country to the fourth in his one season with them. So, there is a small amount of evidence that he could manage effectively at a lower level.

How many millions did he spend at Barca B to get promoted?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Youd swear Warnock only has to manage in the championship and he will get a side promoted. Far from it.

That was the flawed logic used by many in keeping him on - it was as if he would almost guarantee promotion. :hehe:

[dembethewarrior]

That was the flawed logic used by many in keeping him on - it was as if he would almost guarantee promotion. :hehe:

What’s the chances percentage wise? (I do t know how many seasons he’s managed for his 4 promotions)

[J R Hartley]

How many millions did he spend at Barca B to get promoted?

He promoted players from that B wide with him and got rid of some big name players to accomodate them, but dont let that get in the way of the narrative he bought success at Barcelona.

[William Treseder]

That was the flawed logic used by many in keeping him on - it was as if he would almost guarantee promotion. :hehe:
Now let’s hang on a minute here. I’ve been one of Warnocks biggest critics since our first game back in the Premiership last season.
He’s not cut out for that league, and it showed from day one.
This thread though was a bit of a piss take, showing NW as the rough diamond he is, and Pep getting all cosy with his mob.
It appears that Warnock is past his best now, but he was treated like a god 2 seasons ago when he took over and got us up.
His joint world record of 8 promotions is to be admired, just as much as Pep stepping into an easy job and making Man City even better is.

[J R Hartley]

That was the flawed logic used by many in keeping him on - it was as if he would almost guarantee promotion. :hehe:

Some of our fans hang off his every word so its no surprising they think like that really as theres no-one who likes to talk about Neil Warnocks 8 promotions than Neil Warnock himself. Modest chap as he is.

[J R Hartley]

Now let’s hang on a minute here. I’ve been one of Warnocks biggest critics since our first game back in the Premiership last season.
He’s not cut out for that league, and it showed from day one.
This thread though was a bit of a piss take, showing NW as the rough diamond he is, and Pep getting all cosy with his mob.
It appears that Warnock is past his best now, but he was treated like a god 2 seasons ago when he took over and got us up.
His joint world record of 8 promotions is to be admired, just as much as Pep stepping into an easy job and making Man City even better is.

Easy job :hehe:

They had to get 98 points out of a possible 114 to win the league last season.

Youre making it sound like the Celtic job ffs.

[William Treseder]

Easy job :hehe:

They had to get 98 points out of a possible 114 to win the league last season.

Youre making it sound like the Celtic job ffs.
It is with the squad they’ve got. Don’t kid yourself. Liverpool and Man City are miles ahead of the others and spur each other on.
Not so this season it appears.

[dembethewarrior]

People don’t give up on this board do they.

Rather argue on and on rather than admit they’re wrong :hehe:

[William Treseder]

People don’t give up on this board do they.

Rather argue on and on rather than admit they’re wrong :hehe:

Yes. I’ve noticed that about you 😁

[dembethewarrior]

Yes. I’ve noticed that about you 😁

Aiiii

[J R Hartley]

It is with the squad they’ve got. Don’t kid yourself. Liverpool and Man City are miles ahead of the others and spur each other on.
Not so this season it appears.

They are miles ahead of the others because they have the two best managers in the world.

[dembethewarrior]

They are miles ahead of the others because they have the two best managers in the world.
Don’t be daft put Lennon and Warnock there with a few quid each and they’d both still be as good.

[William Treseder]

Don’t be daft put Lennon and Warnock there with a few quid each and they’d both still be as good.
You 2 are on acid. Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Pep and Clipperty in charge of Norwich and Brighton..

[J R Hartley]

You 2 are on acid. Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Pep and Clipperty in charge of Norwich and Brighton..

Eh?

[dembethewarrior]

You 2 are on acid. Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Pep and Clipperty in charge of Norwich and Brighton..
That wasn’t what was asked was it.

You’re making out he only does well there because of money.

Are you pissed?

[lardy]

You 2 are on acid. Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Pep and Clipperty in charge of Norwich and Brighton..

All the decent players would leave under those managers. That's why Man Utd were shopping at Swansea this summer.

[J R Hartley]

If Warnock was in charge of Man City theyd still have Yaya Toure in midfield and he would probably be on a 5 year contact

[Rjk]

Don’t be daft put Lennon and Warnock there with a few quid each and they’d both still be as good.

Really? There are good examples of clubs spending money badly and ending up a mess, it is no guarantee

[dembethewarrior]

Really? There are good examples of clubs spending money badly and ending up a mess, it is no guarantee

AaaaaaaaWhooooOOOOSSHHH

[William Treseder]

It’s like fishing with dynamite on this thread😁

[dembethewarrior]

It’s like fishing with dynamite on this thread😁

Ah that old classic.

Give over mate.

You’d come out of this better if you just admitted you were being silly, rather than making out it was all a big ruse

[J R Hartley]

It’s like fishing with dynamite on this thread��

Oh dear...........

[William Treseder]

Oh dear...........

What can the matter be.......

[William Treseder]

Ah that old classic.

Give over mate.

You’d come out of this better if you just admitted you were being silly, rather than making out it was all a big ruse

Like a moth to a flame.😁

[Croesy Blue]

It’s like fishing with dynamite on this thread��

Yeah well done mate you've really got every one here by *checks notes* making yourself look clueless for 3 pages.......

[William Treseder]

Yeah well done mate you've really got every one here by *checks notes* making yourself look clueless for 3 pages.......

Fook me. Here’s the other one. A hat trick!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

You 2 are on acid. Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Pep and Clipperty in charge of Norwich and Brighton..

I bet you any money that Pep and Klopp in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool.

I also bet you any money that Pep and Klopp in charge of Cardiff and Celtic would consistently finish above Warnock and Lennon in charge of Cardiff and Celtic.

[Ianto13]

Some of our fans hang off his every word so its no surprising they think like that really as theres no-one who likes to talk about Neil Warnocks 8 promotions than Neil Warnock himself. Modest chap as he is.

But I’ve noticed he never talks about his 7 relegations?

[dembethewarrior]

Yeah well done mate you've really got every one here by *checks notes* making yourself look clueless for 3 pages.......

:hehe:

[dembethewarrior]

I bet you any money that Pep and Klopp in charge of Man City and Liverpool would consistently finish above Warnock and Lennon in charge of Man City and Liverpool.

I also bet you any money that Pep and Klopp in charge of Cardiff and Celtic would consistently finish above Warnock and Lennon in charge of Cardiff and Celtic.

And that, as it should have been pages ago, is the end of that!!

[William Treseder]

And that, as it should have been pages ago, is the end of that!!

Actually Eric would lose his cash, because neither Pep or clipperty could get Celtic to finish higher than Lennon did.
But then again, they do say that a fool and his money are soon parted.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Actually Eric would lose his cash, because neither Pep or clipperty could get Celtic to finish higher than Lennon did.

They could get Celtic to do better in the Champions' League.

[dembethewarrior]

They could get Celtic to do better in the Champions' League.

A point I made pages ago. He just keeps moving the goal posts because he hasn’t got an argument.

Careful, he’s fooled you with his super ruse.

[William Treseder]

A point I made pages ago. He just keeps moving the goal posts because he hasn’t got an argument.

Careful, he’s fooled you with his super ruse.

Ya not still bumping ya gums on this thread are you ya muppet.
Let it go son. Peps ok if he’s got millions to spend. Eric and the fly fisherman would have you believe he’d win the champions league with East Fife!

[dembethewarrior]

Ya not still bumping ya gums on this thread are you ya muppet.
Let it go son. Peps ok if he’s got millions to spend. Eric and the fly fisherman would have you believe he’d win the champions league with East Fife!
Now throwing out shite insults because you’ve got no argument :hehe:

[William Treseder]

Now throwing out shite insults because you’ve got no argument :hehe:

Let it go. Do you really think even Warnocks biggest fans would compare him to Pep and say he was a better manager. Fook me, even DML what’s his face on here wouldn’t. I’m one of his biggest critics if you look back at some of my posts😁
Stop being sooooo serious and lighten up a bit.

[dembethewarrior]

Let it go. Do you really think even Warnocks biggest fans would compare him to Pep and say he was a better manager. Fook me, even DML what’s his face on here wouldn’t. I’m one of his biggest critics if you look back at some of my posts😁
Stop being sooooo serious and lighten up a bit.
William Tressider’s guide to posting like an idiot.

Step 1. Chime in to a debate
Step 2. Have no clue what you’re talking about
Step 3. Get rinsed by multiple posters.
Step 4. Claim it was all a huge joke in a big “Gotcha fools” reveal
Step 5. Ask poster if they are stalking you/ throw out some bad insults.
Step 6. Play the whole thing down, act really calm, when in reality you’re sat there squeezing your keyboard in frustration
Step 7. Find another thread and start all over again.

[J R Hartley]

Do you really think even Warnocks biggest fans would compare him to Pep and say he was a better manager. Fook me, even DML what’s his face on here wouldn’t .

Hmmm. Big call that. Will have to keep disagreeing with you.

[William Treseder]

Hmmm. Big call that. Will have to keep disagreeing with you.

😁

[William Treseder]

William Tressider’s guide to posting like an idiot.

Step 1. Chime in to a debate
Step 2. Have no clue what you’re talking about
Step 3. Get rinsed by multiple posters.
Step 4. Claim it was all a huge joke in a big “Gotcha fools” reveal
Step 5. Ask poster if they are stalking you/ throw out some bad insults.
Step 6. Play the whole thing down, act really calm, when in reality you’re sat there squeezing your keyboard in frustration
Step 7. Find another thread and start all over again.

Oh no. You’ve rumbled me!