View Full Version : FT: CARDIFF CITY 2 - 0 LEEDS UNITED. Match thread
Michael Morris
17-06-20, 20:40
Sunday June 21st, 12 noon. Live on Sky
Was going to be a massive game back in March. And is a massive game now we start up again in June.
Former Labour leader
17-06-20, 21:09
Will define the rest of the season for both clubs.
Freitag 4.17
17-06-20, 21:30
If Tomlin is fit and plays - honestly think we'll win.
Taunton Blue Genie
17-06-20, 21:31
Will define the rest of the season for both clubs.
Even if it's a draw?
Freitag 4.17
17-06-20, 21:33
Even if it's a draw?
Hmmm.. It's been so long I forgot games can end in a draw - draw it is.
2-1 to City, followed by a total loss of form by Leeeds.
Tradition
Der Kaiser
18-06-20, 12:32
Smithies
Sanderson
Nelson
Morrison
Bennett
Ralls
Vaulks
Murphy
Tomlin
NML
Paterson
1-0 City.
Michael Morris
18-06-20, 12:53
Match officials:
Referee: ANDY WOOLMER
Assistants: Daniel Leach and Andrew Fox
Fourth Official : Lee Swabey
Pablo Hernandez is injured as is Augustin (though I doubt he'd have played anyway)
dembethewarrior
18-06-20, 18:02
Pablo Hernandez is injured as is Augustin (though I doubt he'd have played anyway)
Leeds fans I know say he's shite. I hope he plays.
We'll be lucky to get a throw in
Does anybody know how / when the Leeds team will travel down to Cardiff?
Arsenal got on a plane in London at 5pm for an 8pm kick-off at the Etihad on Wednesday, which I thought that was madness. But Leeds need to get down here for a midday kick-off on a Sunday... that can’t be doing them any favours...
Former Labour leader
19-06-20, 10:27
Does anybody know how / when the Leeds team will travel down to Cardiff?
Arsenal got on a plane in London at 5pm for an 8pm kick-off at the Etihad on Wednesday, which I thought that was madness. But Leeds need to get down here for a midday kick-off on a Sunday... that can’t be doing them any favours...
They are allowed to stay overnight.
If they can find somewhere!
They are allowed to stay overnight.
If they can find somewhere!
Are the camp sites open?
Former Labour leader
19-06-20, 13:20
Interestingly Leeds havent had any preseason friendly. Whether ours did any good we will soon find out. Will be a strange game, at least to start.
As mentioned above Hernandez def out which is good news. Just about as important to Leeds as Tomlin has become to us.
Dublinblue
19-06-20, 19:16
We're 9/2 to beat Leeds on Betfair Exchange, and I reckon (in my ignorance / optimism) that's a pretty good price, given the uncertainty. Fingers crossed :)
Former Labour leader
19-06-20, 19:43
Smithies
Sanderson
Nelson
Morrison
Bennett
Ralls
Vaulks
Murphy (Bacuna)
Tomlin (Adomah)
NML
Paterson
1-0 City.
I have a feeling Tomlin will be on bench due to fitness. Bacuna to play in his place.
Wingers are a problem too. Adomah deserves a start based on his earlier performances, but NML is at his best when the sun is on his back so i think Murphy will be the one to miss out
Michael Morris
20-06-20, 13:09
Opta stats
This is the first league meeting between Cardiff and Leeds at the Cardiff City Stadium since September 2017, a 3-1 win for the Bluebirds under Neil Warnock.
Leeds have taken just one point from their last four league games against Cardiff (D1 L3), drawing 3-3 having been 3-0 up in the reverse fixture this season.
This will be the first time Cardiff have hosted Leeds for a match on a Sunday since winning 2-1 in an FA Cup tie at Ninian Park in January 2002 when Leeds were top of the Premier League.
Leeds have won each of their last five league games without conceding a single goal. The Whites have achieved this feat on four other previous occasions, most recently in December 2009 - they have never won six straight league games without conceding.
Cardiff have picked up six draws in their last eight league games on home soil (W1 D1) - no side has drawn more home games in the Championship this season (8).
Leeds have won more points from their last six games (16) than any other Championship team.
Former Labour leader
20-06-20, 13:47
3 away wins in the Championship so far.
Not looking good for us tomorrow
🤨
ccfcwelshlad
20-06-20, 16:45
Does anybody know how / when the Leeds team will travel down to Cardiff?
Arsenal got on a plane in London at 5pm for an 8pm kick-off at the Etihad on Wednesday, which I thought that was madness. But Leeds need to get down here for a midday kick-off on a Sunday... that can’t be doing them any favours...
They flew down this afternoon I believe.
2-1 to City, followed by a total loss of form by Leeeds.
Tradition
That would be great but I can’t see it......
Where are Leeds staying? Hotels are shut aren’t they?
Former Labour leader
21-06-20, 09:00
That would be great but I can’t see it......
Where are Leeds staying? Hotels are shut aren’t they?
Guess considered key workers and some hotels open for them.
Cardiff City XI (4-5-1): Smithies; Sanderson, Nelson, Morrison, Bennett; Adomah, Vaulks, Bacuna, Ralls, Hoilett; Paterson
Subs: Etheridge, Flint, Smith, Pack, Whyte, Tomlin, Mendez-Laing, Ward, Glatzel
Leeds United XI (4-1-4-1): Meslier; Ayling, White, Cooper, Dallas; Phillips; Costa, Klich, Roberts, Harrison; Bamford
Subs: Miazek, Berardi, Alioski, Struijk, Davis, Gotts, Poveda, Shackleton, Stevens
StraightOuttaCanton
21-06-20, 10:15
Cardiff City XI (4-5-1): Smithies; Sanderson, Nelson, Morrison, Bennett; Adomah, Vaulks, Bacuna, Ralls, Hoilett; Paterson
Subs: Etheridge, Flint, Smith, Pack, Whyte, Tomlin, Mendez-Laing, Ward, Glatzel
Leeds United XI (4-1-4-1): Meslier; Ayling, White, Cooper, Dallas; Phillips; Costa, Klich, Roberts, Harrison; Bamford
Subs: Miazek, Berardi, Alioski, Struijk, Davis, Gotts, Poveda, Shackleton, Stevens
No Murphy. Must be injured
Freitag 4.17
21-06-20, 10:15
Cardiff City XI (4-5-1): Smithies; Sanderson, Nelson, Morrison, Bennett; Adomah, Vaulks, Bacuna, Ralls, Hoilett; Paterson
Subs: Etheridge, Flint, Smith, Pack, Whyte, Tomlin, Mendez-Laing, Ward, Glatzel
Leeds United XI (4-1-4-1): Meslier; Ayling, White, Cooper, Dallas; Phillips; Costa, Klich, Roberts, Harrison; Bamford
Subs: Miazek, Berardi, Alioski, Struijk, Davis, Gotts, Poveda, Shackleton, Stevens
Good god, our striker options really are sub-par. :frown:
Any links for the match today?::thumbup:
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 10:45
hesgoal.com........oyu may have to set VPN to netherlands.
Not sure if it is on club TV.
Try these mate https://reddit.soccerstreams.net/event/cardiff-city-leeds-united-live-stream/193907
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 10:48
Will we lose out over fitness
Bielsa a stickler for fitness which is my worry
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 11:01
IT IS on club TV......interesting......sky has loud rowd noise.......Club Tv has virtually no noise....just hollow shouts.
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 11:03
So sad that we’re not able to be there for the tributes
Crowd making great noise; best atmosphere in the ground all season
Why can't they make up their mind which commentary we are getting
Why can't they make up their mind which commentary we are getting
Can hear both all the time. Guess we're trying to keep a bit of the crowd noise under our own commentary.
It doesn't work.
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 11:16
Don't like to say this...but we are the better side so far....hopefully no sucker punch.....
Swiss Peter
21-06-20, 11:20
Crowd making great noise; best atmosphere in the ground all season
:hehe:
The artificial crowd noise does my head in. Doesn't seem to be a non-crowd noise option? I've had to turn volume right down.
Dublinblue
21-06-20, 11:21
Why can't they make up their mind which commentary we are getting
Thanks goodness that's fixed now. Hope it doesn't recur. However the artificial crown noise is weird, isn't it?
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 11:24
:hehe:
The artificial crowd noise does my head in. Doesn't seem to be a non-crowd noise option? I've had to turn volume right down.
Club tv don't have crowd noise.....oh well there wasn't at the start...there is now...
BlueArmy 86
21-06-20, 11:29
Any streams that work
Yet again, Club TV is not working for me.
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 11:31
Second to every ball at the moment. Can’t see us winning this one
:hehe:
The artificial crowd noise does my head in. Doesn't seem to be a non-crowd noise option? I've had to turn volume right down.
I think it works really well. I cannot watch a game in silence, and I barely recognise it as "artificial" (except fr the delayed crowd reactions).
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 11:34
one way traffic noq....a goal feels coming...and not at the right end....
Yet again, Club TV is not working for me.
I was having problems, said I wasn’t entitled, got on eventually through persistence and banging keys :hehe:
StraightOuttaCanton
21-06-20, 11:34
Leeds well on top now after quite a bright start from us
Bennett makes poor choices
Paterson just isn't a striker
one way traffic noq....a goal feels coming...and not at the right end....
I'm not sure, they haven't done much despite the possession.
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 11:36
Paterson just isn't a striker
Probably the better option at the moment as you can’t fault his fitness generally
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 11:37
Morrison just looks a yard of the pace for me
Dublinblue
21-06-20, 11:39
Yessssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 11:39
GOAL!!! Hoilett a beauty.
Freitag 4.17
21-06-20, 11:40
:wales::wales::wales::wales::wales::wales::wales:: wales::wales::wales::wales:
I'm not sure, they haven't done much despite the possession.
Great goal! I had a feeling we'd get them with a suckerpunch. They haven't offered much.
I could hear the Leeds fans screaming 'close him down, close him down ' from here.
Shame
That was some awful defending against someone who is notorious for whacking em in from a distance
StraightOuttaCanton
21-06-20, 11:42
7
❤️
Timely goal too. We've been under pressure for quite a while.
Great goal by Junior
I'm greedy, but would love another before HT.
Timely goal too. We've been under pressure for quite a while.
Great goal by Junior
Well so far so good score line wise but I wish we would at least try to keep hold of the ball. It would relieve pressure if nothing else.
Paterson just isn't a striker
Christ, that old chestnut - give it a rest for gods sake.
Paterson is an embarrassment
Swiss Peter
21-06-20, 12:15
I think it works really well. I cannot watch a game in silence, and I barely recognise it as "artificial" (except fr the delayed crowd reactions).
Where's '1-0 to the sheepshaggers' and 'always shit on the English side of the bridge'? Poor effort in my view. :hehe:
SLUDGE FACTORY
21-06-20, 12:16
Paterson can be as big an embarrassment as he wants as long as he keeps scoring goals
Where's '1-0 to the sheepshaggers' and 'always shit on the English side of the bridge'? Poor effort in my view. :hehe:
:hehe:
A lovely rendition of "We all hate Leeds Scum" should be due about now.
Id get Tomlin and Mendez on.
I see lockdown hasn’t reduced all the negativity and doom n gloom on here ��
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 12:23
great save Smithies...
splott parker
21-06-20, 12:24
Bit of a dilemma for Harris at the moment, stick or twist? Excellent by Smithies there.
Bit of a dilemma for Harris at the moment, stick or twist? Excellent by Smithies there.
Outstanding by Smithies, especially as he hasn’t had much to do so far
Michael Morris
21-06-20, 12:26
NM-L and Glatzel coming on.
Adoma and Paterson off.
Hungry Blue
21-06-20, 12:27
Is that all you take away?
Smithies playing really well.
"Staying Down Staying Down Staying Down".
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 12:28
two good subs...immediately Glatzel good hold up play.
If we go any deeper, we’ll find coal !!!!
two good subs...immediately Glatzel good hold up play.
So far, this has almost been like the perfect away performance (I know we are at home, but you know what I mean).
Michael Morris
21-06-20, 12:34
2 -0 What a finish by Glatzel
Dublinblue
21-06-20, 12:34
2-0 Glatzel
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 12:34
GLATZEL!!!!! 2-0 tremendous goal!!!
What a goal that was.
One more to get into the top 6?
What a class strike. Showed his quality there.
Altogether now..."Leeds,Leeds are....."
Midfield three are doing well against tough opposition. I'd prefer Tomlin in the 10 role against weaker opposition though.
Elwood Blues
21-06-20, 12:38
So far, this has almost been like the perfect away performance (I know we are at home, but you know what I mean).
Home is the new away!
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 12:39
What a class strike. Showed his quality there.
Shows what he can do when he’s not spending his time chasing aimless balls from the back
Glatzel should have had a go there.
What a class strike. Showed his quality there.
Should always get the nod over Paterson who is not a striker all day long
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 12:40
So far, this has almost been like the perfect away performance (I know we are at home, but you know what I mean).
I got a feeling having no crowd has actually helped us in this game. No way the crowd would have allowed us to play on the break as we have done.
But let’s not do this every week, Leeds have been really unlucky
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 12:41
If we get a free kick outside their area.....do we bring Tonlin on?....
Michael Morris
21-06-20, 12:45
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Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 12:46
Glatzel should have had a go there.
yes he shoulkd...but he's made a huge difference......also good defending by Sanderson
Freitag 4.17
21-06-20, 12:46
Who is Brad Smith?
Michael Morris
21-06-20, 12:47
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Leeds have run out of subs. Used their three sub slots.
Michael Morris
21-06-20, 12:48
Who is Brad Smith?
signed him on loan from Bournemouth
I got a feeling having no crowd has actually helped us in this game. No way the crowd would have allowed us to play on the break as we have done.
But let’s not do this every week, Leeds have been really unlucky
What a stupid post. The crowd don't decide the team tactics.
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 12:48
Is that brad smiths first league game for us
yes he shoulkd...but he's made a huge difference......also good defending by Sanderson
He's a handful.
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 12:51
What a stupid post. The crowd don't decide the team tactics.
Don’t talk shit. The crowd pressure the team into certain decisions, long shots, pushing up at corners when not needed.
If you don’t think the crowd alter anything why is there a home advantage?
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 12:53
still have the jitters...6 mins more..
2 more goals an we're in the playoff spot?
Freitag 4.17
21-06-20, 12:57
Preston next, in our own hands for the first time this season?
This result is one firmly in the eye for all the negatives on this board - especially the former labour leader.
Don’t talk shit. The crowd pressure the team into certain decisions, long shots, pushing up at corners when not needed.
If you don’t think the crowd alter anything why is there a home advantage?
Absolute bollocks, as usual. The crowd pressures the team into playing a different way - priceless 😄😄😄😄
Preston next, in our own hands for the first time this season?
From being the bogey side to now playing our bogey side.
Perhaps now the doom mongers amongst you will realise what has been true all season. You have a cracking chance of the play offs. Preston are bang average. Your biggest threat? Swansea imo
One thing that does go in your favour. Strength in depth. That bench today was very strong for this level. Hope you make top six.
AlwaysAway2
21-06-20, 13:03
What a brilliant performance from them all. Hard to imagine a better performance against Leeds.
I think the new sub rules will benefit us. We had loads of options on the bench but I hardly recognise many of the Leeds 9 subs.
Should always get the nod over Paterson who is not a striker all day long
Can you honestly not see the bigger picture when it comes to what Patterson does? Start glatzel over him today and we do not win the game
The commentators were very complimentary of Leeds yet again!
Der Kaiser
21-06-20, 13:10
Fantastic win, and more to come performance wise. NML (or Murphy) should start every game if fit enough, Hoilett and Adomah don't have enough pace between them. Great win, happy sunday!
This football lark's pretty easy
Perhaps now the doom mongers amongst you will realise what has been true all season. You have a cracking chance of the play offs. Preston are bang average. Your biggest threat? Swansea imo
One thing that does go in your favour. Strength in depth. That bench today was very strong for this level. Hope you make top six.
You keep saying that as if other clubs don't have fans that mentality in their own fan base.
You keep saying that as if other clubs don't have fans that mentality in their own fan base.
I can only talk of Reading fans who would have definitely been more optimistic.
This result is one firmly in the eye for all the negatives on this board - especially the former labour leader.
Got to be honest, I thought they would do us today with no crowd, but fairplay that’s only 2 in 23 they have won against us now....they must hate us beyond belief
Lets get this is perspective, it's the first game we have won for months!!!! :hehe:
31% Possession - 2 shots on goal.
31% Possession - 2 shots on goal.
Leeds can count themselves lucky we didn`t have more possession then.
Former Labour leader
21-06-20, 13:50
This result is one firmly in the eye for all the negatives on this board - especially the former labour leader.
✌
Former Labour leader
21-06-20, 13:55
Massively impressed with City. High work rate and well organized. Having no fans didn't seem to make any difference.
I am, like so many City fans, a glass half empty man, (as DML 1954 can testify) but after that performance and having an almost injury free squad we must have a chance of sneaking into the play offs.
Massively impressed with City. High work rate and well organized. Having no fans didn't seem to make any difference.
I am, like so many City fans, a glass half empty man, (as DML 1954 can testify) but after that performance and having an almost injury free squad we must have a chance of sneaking into the play offs.
I do not expect promotion but the break has suited us more than most of our rivals.
Having less quality in depth, NML and Tomlin would have missed the run in.
We do have a chance of sneaking into the playoffs and we would be as fresh as any other side.
If we do succeed I fear for us with the current attitude of our owner not investing in players.
Enjoying the current situation.
Slept through most of it. Started watching at the 79th minute. City seemed pretty well organised, but terrible ball retention. The one weird thing that I noticed was the crowd noise. It was spot on. Best I've seen so far.
LeningradCowboy
21-06-20, 14:23
Decent performance with two excellent goals and a clean sheet. The only negative was Adomah looking off the pace.
life on mars
21-06-20, 14:26
Though the City look better prepared , fitness looked very good , great substitutions just a the right time ,well done City and Neil Harris.
Leeds on this form will not go up , they looked off the pace , with no real determination .in front of goal they were poor .
If City maintain and build on today they have a great chance of play offs with a full squad and even Cunningham is back in training , who knows an empty Wembley beckons ??
life on mars
21-06-20, 14:27
Slept through most of it. Started watching at the 79th minute. City seemed pretty well organised, but terrible ball retention. The one weird thing that I noticed was the crowd noise. It was spot on. Best I've seen so far.
I think the crowd noise is nicked from Sky ??
Whoever put it together did a good job. City fans singing City songs.
Whoever put it together did a good job. City fans singing City songs.
Only thing missing was "Leeds, Leeds are falling apart again..." :hehe:
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 14:40
Though the City look better prepared , fitness looked very good , great substitutions just a the right time ,well done City and Neil Harris.
Leeds on this form will not go up , they looked off the pace , with no real determination .in front of goal they were poor .
If City maintain and build on today they have a great chance of play offs with a full squad and even Cunningham is back in training , who knows an empty Wembley beckons ??
Absolutely agree...fitness was really good. Great subs....and clever to put Smith on to help Bennett towards the end.
Still think Leeds have too much of a cushion to miss out.. Annoying also that as we are Leeds' bogey team...so Preston are to us.....
There was more in the stadium today then the Paul Trollope days. :hehe:
Great win and 3pts today for the Bluebirds.
Enoch Mort
21-06-20, 15:26
Decent performance with two excellent goals and a clean sheet. The only negative was Adomah looking off the pace.
Agree that Adomah is off the pace but he does not look any more off the pace than when he arrived. Reading the Forest Forum when he signed on loan the general opinion of Forest fans was that his legs had gone and they were quite happy to see him off the payroll albeit for a short time.
Bobby Dandruff
21-06-20, 15:53
This result is one firmly in the eye for all the negatives on this board - especially the former labour leader.
A superb result with 2 excellent goals hides the fact that we had 31% possession and two shots all game.
Clinical with superb defending? Maybe. But I think that the next few games may show us otherwise.
Hopefully I’m wrong. 👍
WJ99mobile
21-06-20, 16:25
Absolute bollocks, as usual. The crowd pressures the team into playing a different way - priceless 😄😄😄😄
You’re more likely to miss a penalty at home because of pressure. If you’re saying fans don’t influence a players performance I can show you plenty of scientific studies that prove otherwise.
It could mean that a player rushes upfield when the best option isn’t to.
“The effect of the crowd may also extend to affecting the players/ athletes behaviour in their particular event. Thirer & Rampey (1979) discovered that during normal crowd behaviour the visiting teams committed more infractions, however during crowd antisocial behaviour the home teams committed more infractions. The authors concluded that “anti-social behaviour from the crowd had a detrimental effect on the home team”.”
Now. Stop talking shit.
Great win and 3pts today for the Bluebirds.
Yes a great win from a hardworking performance.
I understand the difficulty with retaining the ball but am disappointed at how often we make bad short passes, particularly when not under pressure.
Don Corleone
21-06-20, 16:46
Can you honestly not see the bigger picture when it comes to what Patterson does? Start glatzel over him today and we do not win the game
Absolutely agree, Paterson ran himself into the ground and was often the only blue shirt in the Leeds half. It was good to see he was looking lean and fit!
Don Corleone
21-06-20, 16:48
Yes a great win from a hardworking performance.
I understand the difficulty with retaining the ball but am disappointed at how often we make bad short passes, particularly when not under pressure.
Morrison defended well again today but he can’t pass , even over a short distance forward, to a blue shirt. Still, he did his main job very effectively today
good win today as i predicted back in march 2018.
Absolutely agree, Paterson ran himself into the ground and was often the only blue shirt in the Leeds half. It was good to see he was looking lean and fit!
Its astonishing how much stick Paterson gets
2 centre forwards out there today - if Leeds had our one they may have got a result.
Leeds like to play it out from the back and the mad bstard Scots man was all over them like a rash never giving them a break - we scored twice from 2 incidents of Leeds giving the ball away cheaply in a dangerous area - Paterson beat them up today leaving others to exploit - Again.
Enjoy him while he's here - he'll have legend like status when he leaves.
We gotta thank Bamford for that cracking save on the goal-line :hehe:
If he’s not there, it’s 1-1
You’re more likely to miss a penalty at home because of pressure. If you’re saying fans don’t influence a players performance I can show you plenty of scientific studies that prove otherwise.
It could mean that a player rushes upfield when the best option isn’t to.
“The effect of the crowd may also extend to affecting the players/ athletes behaviour in their particular event. Thirer & Rampey (1979) discovered that during normal crowd behaviour the visiting teams committed more infractions, however during crowd antisocial behaviour the home teams committed more infractions. The authors concluded that “anti-social behaviour from the crowd had a detrimental effect on the home team”.”
Now. Stop talking shit.
The crowd can influence a performance in relation to passion, commitment and energy, to keep a team going when its late in the game and the chips are down but to make out, as you did, that they influence tactics during a game is ridiculous. As is quoting a 41 year old legal case about something totally different like hooliganism. What has tactics or the way the team plays got to do with taking a penalty either - you hit the ball and either score or don’t score.
A Quiet Monkfish
21-06-20, 17:51
A couple of things for me. First, QPR fans who reckoned we'd bought the best keeper in the Championship, look to be good judges. Bacuna worked really hard throughout, which made up for a rather stale-looking Joe Ralls. A midfield of Ralls, Bacuna and Vaulks could play together for eternity and still not be anything other than a holding, spoiling trio.
That said, we lacked home advantage against the top side in the division and beat them 2-0. Signs are good if we can keep relatively injury-free..
A Quiet Monkfish
21-06-20, 17:57
The crowd can influence a performance in relation to passion, commitment and energy, to keep a team going when its late in the game and the chips are down but to make out, as you did, that they influence tactics during a game is ridiculous. As is quoting a 41 year old legal case about something totally different like hooliganism. What has tactics or the way the team plays got to do with taking a penalty either - you hit the ball and either score or don’t score.
One evening I was chatting with the late Jimmy Andrews when he was City manager . I asked him why were teams' home performances better at home than away as surely professional sportsmen should be able to play to their best in any environment. He said the crowd and their noise/reactions had a big influence on the home side and also the away side however much the players tried to switch off. Makes perfect sense.
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 18:24
Interesting that Everton v Liverpool on SKY has NO crowd noise.... lack of intensity in this game.
Interesting that Everton v Liverpool on SKY has NO crowd noise.... lack of intensity in this game.
Noise on 401 :shrug:
Maurice Swan
21-06-20, 18:38
Noise on 401 :shrug:
I am watching on SKY via hesgoal.com....just hollow shouting from bench etc......terrible game.
Bald Barry Bastad
21-06-20, 19:09
Though the City look better prepared , fitness looked very good , great substitutions just a the right time ,well done City and Neil Harris.
Leeds on this form will not go up , they looked off the pace , with no real determination .in front of goal they were poor .
If City maintain and build on today they have a great chance of play offs with a full squad and even Cunningham is back in training , who knows an empty Wembley beckons ??
Just our luck to have a Cardiff Swans playoff final this year.
Just our luck to have a Cardiff Swans playoff final this year.
Perfect season for it
Did anyone think their manager was deluded,and not very complentry to the city in his interveiw
Gofer Blue
21-06-20, 19:59
Did anyone think their manager was deluded,and not very complentry to the city in his interveiw
Classic case of sour grapes I thought. OK City had two chances, both from Leeds mistakes and scored two goals. Sorry butt, but that's the way it often goes! To be fair Leeds were far the better side in terms of possession, had City chasing shadows very often, or giving the ball away frequently because they were so quick to close them down. What is it about Leeds and CCFC - both teams have obviously changed players over the years yet there is always the feeling that City will turn them over. Is there some kind of residual psychological trauma at work here?! Having said that we have Preston next - dare I mention the 6 goal thing.....:hide:
Did anyone think their manager was deluded,and not very complentry to the city in his interveiw
Totally.
Did anyone think their manager was deluded,and not very complentry to the city in his interveiw
Either that or the interpreter did his own thing :hehe:
Seriously though, Bielsa obviously believes all the hype that is all around him and his team. No doubt he knows his stuff and is well respected judging by all the tributes paid to him at half time but he lacks class.
I'm glad he had that attitude as it makes people dislike Leeds even more.
The commentator also had a backhanded swipe at Warnock in the game too but fair play to Mick McCarthy, he said that Warnock's way had got his side promoted, that there is more than one way of gaining success.
Without wishing to go over old ground regarding the virtues of playing good football, getting the best out of what you have at your disposal is all one can ask and NH has only added a couple to the squad. He is doing better than okay.
Harris and his team deserved some praise today for the way he went about tackling the best side in the.division and to his credit, Jimmy Floyd was complimentary in his summing up.
Michael Morris
21-06-20, 22:22
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hat's off to the Sky commentator for this line when Glatzel scored his goal <br><br>'This is Cardiff City's office, this is where they take care of business' <a href="https://t.co/kKFGByITPI">pic.twitter.com/kKFGByITPI</a></p>— Cardiff City Mad (@cardiffcitymad) <a href="https://twitter.com/cardiffcitymad/status/1274810568193556486?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
One evening I was chatting with the late Jimmy Andrews when he was City manager . I asked him why were teams' home performances better at home than away as surely professional sportsmen should be able to play to their best in any environment. He said the crowd and their noise/reactions had a big influence on the home side and also the away side however much the players tried to switch off. Makes perfect sense.
The crowd and their noise/reactions has a big influence on the officials.
WJ99mobile
22-06-20, 08:48
The crowd can influence a performance in relation to passion, commitment and energy, to keep a team going when its late in the game and the chips are down but to make out, as you did, that they influence tactics during a game is ridiculous. As is quoting a 41 year old legal case about something totally different like hooliganism. What has tactics or the way the team plays got to do with taking a penalty either - you hit the ball and either score or don’t score.
John Barnes reaction to Everton vs Liverpool
Liverpool struggled because at Goodison the crowd will push the team forward allowing Liverpool to exploit the space.
I thought the crowd doesn’t influence the way a team plays?
https://youtu.be/PeBx9G6SHSY
dembethewarrior
22-06-20, 11:44
Glatzel held the ball up well, they didn't pump it at his head or aimlessly up the pitch.. he found options and brought other players into the game as a result.
Great finish.
Not bothered by the possession as it was expected, would like us to TRY and retain the ball though as it takes pressure off the back 4.
Should play an actual striker up top..unless he's missing sitters.
Bobby Dandruff
22-06-20, 12:08
Classic case of sour grapes I thought. OK City had two chances, both from Leeds mistakes and scored two goals. Sorry butt, but that's the way it often goes! To be fair Leeds were far the better side in terms of possession, had City chasing shadows very often, or giving the ball away frequently because they were so quick to close them down. What is it about Leeds and CCFC - both teams have obviously changed players over the years yet there is always the feeling that City will turn them over. Is there some kind of residual psychological trauma at work here?! Having said that we have Preston next - dare I mention the 6 goal thing.....:hide:
Quite - a good assessment. 2 shots and 2 goals with 31% possession either means clinical or lucky - time will tell, but I suspect that I can guess which it is.
But complaining about the result afterwards is just poor form and unsporting. So very much to be expected from Leeds! :biggrin:
Your comment about Preston is noted.... :yikes:
Did anyone think their manager was deluded,and not very complentry to the city in his interveiw
Yes.
Michael Morris
22-06-20, 12:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqaQ7fvInVQ
Pedro de la Rosa
22-06-20, 12:44
Did anyone think their manager was deluded,and not very complentry to the city in his interveiw
Yes, I live in Leeds (unfortunately) and most of my mates agreed we deserved to win. They were very poor 20 yards from their goal and 20 yards from ours. Apart from that, they did well :hehe:
Also, Bielsa said we had 2 shots and scored both. Their massive 3 shots on target seemed to get forgotten about. Nice to see Hasselbaink giving us some well deserved praise.
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