What is Harris doing right at Cardiff City?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I read some comments from some contributors about giving Harris time, he deserves this and that after last season etc. I have no problems with those opinions.

So here goes. From people who want Harris to keep going at the club, what has he done right this season and what reasons do you have to be optimistic based on what we've seen since September? Keep the answer within the realms of what has gone on this season, so nothing about chopping and changing managers, giving him time, references to last season, unless making a valid comparison with goings on during this campaign, we're lucky to be a Championship club etc....

Basically, what is Harris currently doing that makes you think he's the right man for the future?

[Former Labour leader]

The only thing I can immediately think of, is bringing young players through, albeit Bagan is the only 1 so far. That is something Warnock totally failed on.
Possibly starting to realise Murphy is better in the middle as no10?
Apart from that, not a lot.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

Signed Harry Wilson, Kiefer Moore and Osei-Tutu and has started to eliminate some of Warnock’s deadweights.

We play with the ball much more but we still look shite against teams that play the way we did under Warnock.

I feel like it’s coming but we’re still so inconsistent

[Tuerto]

In my opinion the problem is the way he sets up, it can't evolve or improve when things aren't working out for us, then we see the inevitable change when we go a goal down, it's happening regularly, which tells me that his initial set up isn't working, lacks penetration, stops players making advanced runs and is dependent on fullbacks and wingers as opposed to midfield players. The three in the middle just hold their position, no breaking the lines, no following a pass etc. It's been found out.

I believe that we could play a higher tempo game that worked on pressing as opposed to possession. We have players who are fit and a bit of pace if required, we're not that bad around the box either, we've got alittle bit of quality in Wilson and Ralls can play a bit with the wide men tucking in. Harris is to cautious. It may cost him.

[the other bob wilson]

RJK is the man to talk about "expected goals", so I wonder if he knows whether we're in the top six with that as Neil Harris claimed yesterday? If we are, then I'd say there are grounds for thinking that things will come right if we keep playing as we are in saying that, I find it hard to believe we are as high up as that, because we're so timid in the first half of most games we play.

[Tuerto]

RJK is the man to talk about "expected goals", so I wonder if he knows whether we're in the top six with that as Neil Harris claimed yesterday? If we are, then I'd say there are grounds for thinking that things will come right if we keep playing as we are in saying that, I find it hard to believe we are as high up as that, because we're so timid in the first half of most games we play.

You can tell how it's going to go after 10 minutes.

[Bluebird23]

Here’s an interesting stat.....

We’ve failed to score in the first half, of nine of our last 10 games.

[Bluebird23]

I’d also find it hard to believe any City manager, has drawn as many games in a 12 month period.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

In my opinion the problem is the way he sets up, it can't evolve or improve when things aren't working out for us, then we see the inevitable change when we go a goal down, it's happening regularly, which tells me that his initial set up isn't working, lacks penetration, stops players making advanced runs and is dependent on fullbacks and wingers as opposed to midfield players. The three in the middle just hold their position, no breaking the lines, no following a pass etc. It's been found out.

I believe that we could play a higher tempo game that worked on pressing as opposed to possession. We have players who are fit and a bit of pace if required, we're not that bad around the box either, we've got alittle bit of quality in Wilson and Ralls can play a bit with the wide men tucking in. Harris is to cautious. It may cost him.

Guess you didn’t read the question?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Are we 6 points adrift and a certainty for relegation ?

So whilst the team is clearly misfiring , what on earth are we having a go at the manager for so early in the season ?

[surge]

Part B: Answer why the current Nottingham Forest manager has improved things showing focus on match play from the 80th minute onwards against Barnsley, 21/11/2020.

[Tuerto]

Guess you didn’t read the question?

Correct.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Are we 6 points adrift and a certainty for relegation ?

So whilst the team is clearly misfiring , what on earth are we having a go at the manager for so early in the season ?

That's not an answer to the question. Btw, do you think that's the criteria for getting rid of a manager - being 6 points adrift and a certainty for relegation?

[StraightOuttaCanton]

That's not an answer to the question. Btw, do you think that's the criteria for getting rid of a manager - being 6 points adrift and a certainty for relegation?

I don’t think he was trying to answer the question. It read like he was responding to all those that didn’t answer the question.

Your question was about what he was doing right... it sort of implies that this shouldn’t be a negative thread

[MacAdder]

I wonder if he sees more than us in training and in players unable to respond to his style of play that NH has been a bit negative this season, especially in the first half.

He has tried to change our identity yet he knows, for example, that he is playing Bacuna out of position and that an offensive approach is too risky with the limited midfield unable to hold on to the ball long enough.

We have been less water tight defending this season and in trying to adopt a more attacking line-up with what is essentially a creative midfielder playing at RB.

He has made some good signings and though they are yet to really gel, I haven't given up hope just yet.
I still think he could turn our draws into wins but with the way Dalman had been talking, he needs to do them sooner rather than later.

[surge]

Ignoring the consequence of chopping and changing manager in such a hectic football year, I'd mark Harris as a six and a half out of ten based on what he's done this year.

Pros:

- the use of the transfer market has brought in players who have made a positive impact and removed players who were expensive and not performing as well as we needed them to, or in the case of Etheridge expensive and not getting a chance to perform.
- the greater focus on the academy and bringing in Bagan who did well in his appearance
- we're showing more desire to play with the ball which I think will mean we have a better chance of beating a side down to 10 men (think Fulham at home last year where we didn't show any signs of winning the game) while still showing grit enough that in our 10 men game this year we still picked up a point

Cons:

- there are only a few games where you're pointing to it as a good result
- ditto with perfromances
- despite instruction from above and talk in the media, I think Harris was left with a poor squad so even with improvements made it's probably a top 9 squad only. We're 4 points off that so behind where we should be.

It's very possible that there is a manager out there who can keep the pros and lessen the cons list and I would need to rely on the run to play-offs last year to say Harris is capable of being that person.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Are we 6 points adrift and a certainty for relegation ?

So whilst the team is clearly misfiring , what on earth are we having a go at the manager for so early in the season ?

I think that is pretty obvious.

I’m surprised (but then again maybe I shouldn’t be) that you even have to ask.

Have you seen the team play recently? 🤷*♂️ And why do you think that there is so much debate?

🤦*♂️

[Bobby Dandruff]

I read some comments from some contributors about giving Harris time, he deserves this and that after last season etc. I have no problems with those opinions.

So here goes. From people who want Harris to keep going at the club, what has he done right this season and what reasons do you have to be optimistic based on what we've seen since September? Keep the answer within the realms of what has gone on this season, so nothing about chopping and changing managers, giving him time, references to last season, unless making a valid comparison with goings on during this campaign, we're lucky to be a Championship club etc....

Basically, what is Harris currently doing that makes you think he's the right man for the future?

Signed some decent players.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I’d also find it hard to believe any City manager, has drawn as many games in a 12 month period.

You'll have to find it hard to believe.

Harris has drawn 17 games in the first year he's been in charge. Both Frankie Burrows (1st spell) and Russell Osman managed 19, Len Ashurst and Malky Mackay managed 18 in their first years in charge.

Russell Osman holds the record over a rolling 12 month period with 22 draws. Between them, Osman, Hibbitt and Burrows managed 26 draws between April 1997 and 1998. Eddie May, Jimmy Scoular, Dave Jones and Frankie Burrows from another spell, all managed 18 draws over a rolling 12 month period.

[PontBlue]

It's not the same-old same-old game after game. He's willing to adjust formation and personal in order to find the winning formula. Granted it doesn't always work. 442 worked well against Barnsley who played a back 5 but against Millwall it didn't work but he changed personnel and formation to get us the point which almost could have been 3 although it could have been 1 because we had a midfielder playing right back who went awol late on.

[the other bob wilson]

A thank you to the person who let me know about these figures regarding my query about expected goals- we are seventh best for expected goals scored and sixth best when it comes to conceding. I say that while agreeing that figures like these are hardly conclusive proof that we are in a false position, they do suggest we’re not as bad as some are suggesting.

https://footystats.org/england/championship/xg

[Eric the Half a Bee]

A thank you to the person who let me know about these figures regarding my query about expected goals- we are seventh best for expected goals scored and sixth best when it comes to conceding. I say that while agreeing that figures like these are hardly conclusive proof that we are in a false position, they do suggest we’re not as bad as some are suggesting.

https://footystats.org/england/championship/xg

That suggests we've scored 3 goals fewer at home than would have been expected but conceded 1 goal more. Away from home we've scored roughly what would have been expected and conceded 3 fewer than expected. That all suggests our home form should be better and that we've over achieved away from home.

We've scored 13 this season and conceded 12. Tally up the xG and we should have scored 15-16 and conceded 14. Seems like everything is as it should be. We're not conceding as many as can be expected, which is good, but aren't taking our chances, which is not so good.

7th in the xG goals for equals 15.4 goals over 12 games. The actual 7th top scorers have scored 13.
6th in the xG goals against equals 13.7 goals over 12 games. The actual 6th lowest conceders have let in 11.

Swansea have scored 4 fewer than expected but conceded 5 fewer.

It appears that, overall, Championship sides aren't taking the chances they should.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That's not an answer to the question. Btw, do you think that's the criteria for getting rid of a manager - being 6 points adrift and a certainty for relegation?

Its my answer to the question

Its November, we are not six points adrift and heading for relegation

Harris in

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I don’t think he was trying to answer the question. It read like he was responding to all those that didn’t answer the question.

Your question was about what he was doing right... it sort of implies that this shouldn’t be a negative thread

Eric wanted this to be a negative thread

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think that is pretty obvious.

I’m surprised (but then again maybe I shouldn’t be) that you even have to ask.

Have you seen the team play recently? 🤷*♂️ And why do you think that there is so much debate?

🤦*♂️

Well if its obvious then point it out

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That suggests we've scored 3 goals fewer at home than would have been expected but conceded 1 goal more. Away from home we've scored roughly what would have been expected and conceded 3 fewer than expected. That all suggests our home form should be better and that we've over achieved away from home.

We've scored 13 this season and conceded 12. Tally up the xG and we should have scored 15-16 and conceded 14. Seems like everything is as it should be. We're not conceding as many as can be expected, which is good, but aren't taking our chances, which is not so good.

7th in the xG goals for equals 15.4 goals over 12 games. The actual 7th top scorers have scored 13.
6th in the xG goals against equals 13.7 goals over 12 games. The actual 6th lowest conceders have let in 11.

Swansea have scored 4 fewer than expected but conceded 5 fewer.

It appears that, overall, Championship sides aren't taking the chances they should.

So all the managers are crap then ?

[J R Hartley]

He’s evolving our style of play whilst trying to manage new players into the squad after losing his 2 best players from last season.

Also doing it with one hand tied behind his back.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

He’s evolving our style of play whilst trying to manage new players into the squad after losing his 2 best players from last season.

Also doing it with one hand tied behind his back.

Its not only quality , trusted trout fishing advice you provide

Keep up the good work

[Bobby Dandruff]

He’s evolving our style of play whilst trying to manage new players into the squad after losing his 2 best players from last season.

Also doing it with one hand tied behind his back.

Why do you say that he has one hand tied behind his back out of interest?

[J R Hartley]

Why do you say that he has one hand tied behind his back out of interest?

How much has he been given to spend compared to Warnock? Compared to other clubs in this division?

We are where we are because we are being run like a mid table club. Off the field apart from the loan signing of Wilson we’ve shown no ambition.

We’ve lost a lot of players from last season and they haven’t all been replaced adequately

[Bobby Dandruff]

How much has he been given to spend compared to Warnock?

Ah OK. Thanks for clarify what you meant.

(I disagree with you as Harris has been backed in the transfer window, but thanks for clarifying)

[J R Hartley]

Ah OK. Thanks for clarify what you meant.

(I disagree with you as Harris has been backed in the transfer window, but thanks for clarifying)

Backed :hehe:

You call Moore for 2m, and a few loans backed :hehe:

[Pedro de la Rosa]

We have played really well when we've needed to score. If we could start games as we finish them, we'd be much higher. All of his signings have improved the squad and we've not wasted money like we did under Warnock. Our players aren't looking at the ball like it is an alien object as well.

Of course, the elephant in the room is we are absolutely appalling in the first half. We're bottom of the league if the game ended at half time. We're second if you only count the second half.

https://www.soccerstats.com/halftime.asp?league=england2

[Ianto13]

How much has he been given to spend compared to Warnock? Compared to other clubs in this division?

We are where we are because we are being run like a mid table club. Off the field apart from the loan signing of Wilson we’ve shown no ambition.

We’ve lost a lot of players from last season and they haven’t all been replaced adequately

I would say that Harris has replaced the ones lost by better players? Moore better than Paterson, Ojo better than Mendez, Tutu better than Jazz, Wilson better than Ward and Bogle put together? We haven’t seen Phillips but he looks a promising Young keeper as we had to let Etheridge go or lose him for nothing in the summer?
All the sides that got promoted last season had top loan players and the Jacks always have 5 and they’re not doing bad again? It’s the way to go rather than doing a Warnock by wasting millions on journeymen!

[Bobby Dandruff]

Backed :hehe:

You call Moore for 2m, and a few loans backed :hehe:

I’m sure someone will oblige but I’d be ingested to see how much Warnock and Harris have spent in similar periods during their time at the club (Warnock only went mad with the money I think when we got promoted)

What is more damning is that this is the only thing that Harris has for almost right. And that is pushing it 🤦*♂️

[UNDERHILL1927]

I would say that Harris has replaced the ones lost by better players? Moore better than Paterson, Ojo better than Mendez, Tutu better than Jazz, Wilson better than Ward and Bogle put together? We haven’t seen Phillips but he looks a promising Young keeper as we had to let Etheridge go or lose him for nothing in the summer?
All the sides that got promoted last season had top loan players and the Jacks always have 5 and they’re not doing bad again? It’s the way to go rather than doing a Warnock by wasting millions on journeymen!

Ojo isn't fit to lace Mendez's boots.

[J R Hartley]

I would say that Harris has replaced the ones lost by better players? Moore better than Paterson, Ojo better than Mendez, Tutu better than Jazz, Wilson better than Ward and Bogle put together? We haven’t seen Phillips but he looks a promising Young keeper as we had to let Etheridge go or lose him for nothing in the summer?
All the sides that got promoted last season had top loan players and the Jacks always have 5 and they’re not doing bad again? It’s the way to go rather than doing a Warnock by wasting millions on journeymen!

Stopped reading at Ojo better than Mendez

[J R Hartley]

I’m sure someone will oblige but I’d be ingested to see how much Warnock and Harris have spent in similar periods during their time at the club (Warnock only went mad with the money I think when we got promoted)

What is more damning is that this is the only thing that Harris has for almost right. And that is pushing it 🤦*♂️
Colin spent 4m on Aden Flint ffs. Be off with you.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Ojo isn't fit to lace Mendez's boots.

I think that is a bit harsh. I’d like to see more of Oh no before claiming that he is not as good as NML.

NML was decent on his day, and sound defensively for a winger, but not consistent. Oh no has improved since he has been here but has not played enough games yet surely to make a proper comparison?

[Bobby Dandruff]

Colin spent 4m on Aden Flint ffs. Be off with you.

Well that is a daft thing to say.

Yes, Flint is rubbish as was Madine etc but Warnock bought them at a different point in his time at the club.

Maybe someone can answer my question and we can have a sensible debate. I can’t remember Warnock spending £2m on a player at the start of his first full season here, but maybe he did?

[J R Hartley]

Well that is a daft thing to say.

Yes, Flint is rubbish as was Madine etc but Warnock bought them at a different point in his time at the club.

Maybe someone can answer my question and we can have a sensible debate. I can’t remember Warnock spending £2m on a player at the start of his first full season here, but maybe he did?

Tomlin 3m for starters. Danny Ward 1.7m.

[UNDERHILL1927]

I think that is a bit harsh. I’d like to see more of Oh no before claiming that he is not as good as NML.

NML was decent on his day, and sound defensively for a winger, but not consistent. Oh no has improved since he has been here but has not played enough games yet surely to make a proper comparison?

Don't think it's harsh, when Mendez Laing left the negative impact on the team was a clear one, if Ojo left I'm not sure I'd even notice.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

So all the managers are crap then ?

If that's your analysis, then that's up to you. I'm just presenting the stats.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Eric wanted this to be a negative thread

I wanted some positivity into why Harris is supposed to be doing a decent job. As one of his biggest fans, I find it disappointing that you haven't got a single reason.

[Bluebird23]

I would say that Harris has replaced the ones lost by better players? Moore better than Paterson, Ojo better than Mendez, Tutu better than Jazz, Wilson better than Ward and Bogle put together? We haven’t seen Phillips but he looks a promising Young keeper as we had to let Etheridge go or lose him for nothing in the summer?
All the sides that got promoted last season had top loan players and the Jacks always have 5 and they’re not doing bad again? It’s the way to go rather than doing a Warnock by wasting millions on journeymen!

If he’s improved the squad and it’s better, why haven’t the results improved?

I’ll tell you why, because he can’t get the best out of the players.

Just a reminder, this idiot describe Glatzel as.....’One of the best finishers I’ve ever worked with.’

What’s is it now, no goals in 16/17 games.

The guy’s useless, even Cooper at Swansea is putting him to shame.

The sooner they sack him and his useless back room staff (have the youngsters won a game under Morrison?), the better.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

If he’s improved the squad and it’s better, why haven’t the results improved?

I’ll tell you why, because he can’t get the best out of the players.

Just a reminder, this idiot describe Glatzel as.....’One of the best finishers I’ve ever worked with.’

What’s is it now, no goals in 16/17 games.

The guy’s useless, even Cooper at Swansea is putting him to shame.

The sooner they sack him and his useless back room staff (have the youngsters won a game under Morrison?), the better.

Just thinking we might not have the funds to sack him and his staff, pay them off, then appoint another manager who might want even more.

[J R Hartley]

If we sacked and paid off a manager every time Eric, Bluebirds 23, Bobby Dandruff and their ilk got out of their pram after a few bad results wed be bankrupt in 3 seasons.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

If we sacked and paid off a manager every time Eric, Bluebirds 23, Bobby Dandruff and their ilk got out of their pram after a few bad results wed be bankrupt in 3 seasons.

I'm not calling for him to go, but I do think he's on borrowed time, especially after Dalman's comments last month.

I know a couple of City fans, in their 50s, who have generally given managers plenty of time in the past, who want Harris out. Things went this way under Slade and there are similarities in that neither were seen as positive appoinments by the club, so weren't given time by some fans.

While I'm not calling for him to be sacked, I still want to know what is positive about his management this season as I can't see much.

[Bluebird23]

If we sacked and paid off a manager every time Eric, Bluebirds 23, Bobby Dandruff and their ilk got out of their pram after a few bad results wed be bankrupt in 3 seasons.

The football is absolute dross, the team look clueless.

We’ve failed to score in the first half in 9 of the last 10 games.

We’re all forgiving of boring football if it’s grinding out results, but Harris isn’t.

I’d love to know who thought a bloke who’s achieved nothing at this level, had his team hurtling towards relegation and was shown the door at Millwall, thought this is the guy we need to get us back to the Premier League.

[Tuerto]

I'm not calling for him to go, but I do think he's on borrowed time, especially after Dalman's comments last month.

I know a couple of City fans, in their 50s, who have generally given managers plenty of time in the past, who want Harris out. Things went this way under Slade and there are similarities in that neither were seen as positive appoinments by the club, so weren't given time by some fans.

While I'm not calling for him to be sacked, I still want to know what is positive about his management this season as I can't see much.

His football becomes more positive and intense when we are losing. His initial set up and style has seen us fall behind way to often this season, yet he perseveres with it. I can't for the life of me work out why. If he continues with the conservative approach which puts us in a position where we have to chase a game, then he's in trouble. Harris has some decisions to make over the coming weeks.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

His football becomes more positive and intense when we are losing. His initial set up and style has seen us fall behind way to often this season, yet he perseveres with it. I can't for the life of me work out why. If he continues with the conservative approach which puts us in a position where we have to chase a game, then he's in trouble. Harris has some decisions to make over the coming weeks.

I think it would be fair to say that was his approach during his initial months with us, prior to Covid. We were 8th in a table of that time period, better than we had under Warnock, still frustrating at times and inconsistent. Our post lockdown form was fantastic. We were more positive, better defensively, had a go.

Since September, we've been even less positive than we were during his first few months, until we go behind. Why are we generally so slow getting out of the blocks? That has to come from the manager and his staff.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

The football is absolute dross, the team look clueless.

We’ve failed to score in the first half in 9 of the last 10 games.

We’re all forgiving of boring football if it’s grinding out results, but Harris isn’t.

I’d love to know who thought a bloke who’s achieved nothing at this level, had his team hurtling towards relegation and was shown the door at Millwall, thought this is the guy we need to get us back to the Premier League.

Perhaps you've answered your own question. Perhaps the board considered him a cheap punt, one that would be relatively stable for a few seasons, no promotion aspiration, not going down either. No parachute payments next season, so a dramatic drop in income. A bit like Slade, it's about cost cutting and preparing for being an average Championship side.

[J R Hartley]

Perhaps you've answered your own question. Perhaps the board considered him a cheap punt, one that would be relatively stable for a few seasons, no promotion aspiration, not going down either. No parachute payments next season, so a dramatic drop in income. A bit like Slade, it's about cost cutting and preparing for being an average Championship side.

Unlike Slade, Harris achieved play offs

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Unlike Slade, Harris achieved play offs

Going back to Dalman's comments about expecting a top 6 finish this season, do you believe that is the board's ambition and do you think that is likely?

[jon1959]

Perhaps you've answered your own question. Perhaps the board considered him a cheap punt, one that would be relatively stable for a few seasons, no promotion aspiration, not going down either. No parachute payments next season, so a dramatic drop in income. A bit like Slade, it's about cost cutting and preparing for being an average Championship side.


Going back to Dalman's comments about expecting a top 6 finish this season, do you believe that is the board's ambition and do you think that is likely?

'Perhaps' it would be sensible to take Dalman at his word and accept that the Board do want and expect a top 6 finish with an evolution in the playing style and with a route to the first team for academy players. They may not have made the right choice (for me the jury is out - but Harris still has some credit in the bank) but I don't see a lack of ambition. The summer transfer window was unlike any in recent years - hard to compare with what went before - but the club seem to me to have backed the manager (apart from the RB weakness) whilst getting a grip on the finances and the bloated size of squad.

[surge]

Going back to Dalman's comments about expecting a top 6 finish this season, do you believe that is the board's ambition and do you think that is likely?

Over a season, at least the past couple of years, you can usually separate the top 4 in the Championship from the next 6 sides down to 10th but the difference between that latter group is never that great. However, once those sides are in the play-offs there are 270 minutes from promotion and a limited side like Cardiff can (almost) take Fulham to extra-time who can then comfortably beat Brentford themselves previously extremely unlucky not to finish in the top 2.

Think the board's ambition is to finish 5th-10th and hope we get a bit more luck on our side in the play-offs this year.

[NYCBlue]

It's hard to tell what Harris is really about. He doesn't seem like a very strong character. He doesn't seem to have an obvious footballing philosophy. At times he's had us playing the ball on the floor and looking like we're going to become a decent footballing side. But then we take a couple of steps back. The team fails to impose itself on games. We just seem to let the game come to us. I can't really see us going anywhere with him. But until something obviously better comes along, I'm prepared to stick with him.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

It's hard to tell what Harris is really about. He doesn't seem like a very strong character. He doesn't seem to have an obvious footballing philosophy. At times he's had us playing the ball on the floor and looking like we're going to become a decent footballing side. But then we take a couple of steps back. The team fails to impose itself on games. We just seem to let the game come to us. I can't really see us going anywhere with him. But until something obviously better comes along, I'm prepared to stick with him.

Harris took over from a massive character last season and turned the season around. He deserves credit for that, and I think his character is bigger than most people think. We're definitely playing better football, don't tell the Jacks but we've had more possession than them this season :hehe:. I personally think possession is a tad overrated but if you know what you're doing with it, you'll win most games if you win the possession battle. Problem is a lot of sides (like Derby for example) don't really have a plan when they get the ball. Also, if you can't pass at all, you've got no chance in the PL. Incredibly Newcastle 2020/21 have less possession than we did in 18/19! I'd stick with Harris but things have clearly got to turn around soon, especially with the teams we're playing next!

[Ianto13]

Stopped reading at Ojo better than Mendez

Mendez scored 3 goals last season Ojo already has 2. Ojo signed from Liverpool squad Mendez from Rochdale. Yes Ojo much better than Mendez who was very overrated and sacked by club!

[J R Hartley]

Mendez scored 3 goals last season Ojo already has 2. Ojo signed from Liverpool squad Mendez from Rochdale. Yes Ojo much better than Mendez who was very overrated and sacked by club!

Mendez was injured for a fair part of last season. He still managed 7 goal contributions in 22 starts. Ojo has 3 goal contributions in 10.

Mendez more crosses, more key passes and more dribbles per game.

Also clearly better defensively.

Where they signed from is totally irrelevant so no, no he isn’t much better.

Mendez is proven at this level. Ojo isn’t.

[life on mars]

Good signings.
Defence play out more than before .
Took a correct punt on Smithies being the better all round keeper .
Appeared to get a better platform for Tomlin to apply his skills when fit .
Invested in Nelson .
Gave Bagan game time .
Realised Flint and Paterson were old skool long ball impact players
Got us a decent Centre forward
More interesting less long direct ball .

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Mendez was injured for a fair part of last season. He still managed 7 goal contributions in 22 starts. Ojo has 3 goal contributions in 10.

Mendez more crosses, more key passes and more dribbles per game.

Also clearly better defensively.

Where they signed from is totally irrelevant so no, no he isn’t much better.

Mendez is proven at this level. Ojo isn’t.

We really miss Mendez. He was so direct, when he was good, he was unplayable.

I also think whatever went on really rattled the squad. The day after he got sacked, we got pumped by Northampton. NML would be our best out and out winger. He's also absolutely rapid and we are crying out for pace.

[J R Hartley]

We really miss Mendez. He was so direct, when he was good, he was unplayable.

I also think whatever went on really rattled the squad. The day after he got sacked, we got pumped by Northampton. NML would be our best out and out winger. He's also absolutely rapid and we are crying out for pace.

He gave us something different. A winger completely different to Hoilett and Murphy. Ojo is ok but does he give us anything that Hoilett or Murphy doesn’t? Tends to hold onto the ball and want to beat the man one more time a bit like Hoilett.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

He gave us something different. A winger completely different to Hoilett and Murphy. Ojo is ok but does he give us anything that Hoilett or Murphy doesn’t? Tends to hold onto the ball and want to beat the man one more time a bit like Hoilett.

I don't know if it's me, but is Hoilett more productive when he's being rotated in the squad? Now he's a regular every game, he doesn't have the zip so often.

[J R Hartley]

I don't know if it's me, but is Hoilett more productive when he's being rotated in the squad? Now he's a regular every game, he doesn't have the zip so often.

He’s been poor this season apart from the Barnsley game

[WJ99mobile]

He’s not doing a lot wrong or right. A solid C student that’s had a few D papers the last 2 months

[J R Hartley]

Id still take him and the style he’s trying to play over the turgid tripe Warnock was playing last season.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Enough of this poncing about

This is football

There are no certainties unless you have a shed load of money and even then that is sometimes not enough

Look at Liverpool, took em decades of big spending to win the title

They must have made loads of duds signings

Harris has taken us to the play offs . A couple of wins puts us back in the chase .

Sam Hammam once said we could be bigger than Barcelona

I think some of our fans think this football club is bigger than it actually is

Look how long its taken dirty Leeds to get back to the big time

Harris , like every other manager who has ran this club has made mistakes but why are we crucifying this guy ?

I am afraid to say this is nothing new and this clubs fans turn quicker than a shark

Bluebirds