View Full Version : Our biggest rivals. Bristol City or Swansea.
William Treseder
20-12-20, 14:51
This topic had been discussed on here on many occasions. Some say BC, some say SC.
I was talking to someone about it yesterday, and it got me thinking.
If Bristol City played Swansea in the FA cup final, who would you rather win?
I’d want the carrot crunchers to do it, as i like telling outsiders that we are the only team to take the FA cup out of England. I think somehow, there in lies my answer 😀
Anyone else?
StraightOuttaCanton
20-12-20, 14:56
I honestly couldn’t give a toss any more. The Swansea game used to mean a lot to me... just another game now.
If I had to pick Swansea or Stoke in a one off game, I’d pick Swansea
Eric the Half a Bee
20-12-20, 15:04
This topic had been discussed on here on many occasions. Some say BC, some say SC.
I was talking to someone about it yesterday, and it got me thinking.
If Bristol City played Swansea in the FA cup final, who would you rather win?
I’d want the carrot crunchers to do it, as i like telling outsiders that we are the only team to take the FA cup out of England. I think somehow, there in lies my answer ��
Anyone else?
If Swansea won it, we'd never hear the end of it. If Bristol City won it, we'd hardly hear a peep. Jursset apart, we've rarely had a Brizzle fan on here.
UNDERHILL1927
20-12-20, 15:07
People that say Bristol are our main rivals say so after losing to Swansea. Any other time they'd say Swansea.
SLUDGE FACTORY
20-12-20, 15:11
Swansea City have always hated us but in terms of rivalry they have been number 1 since they rose up the divisions to the top flight under toshack
People who regard bristol city as our main rivals are generally very old or dead
The other day I was driving to Bridgend hospital and saw a Swansea City sticker on the car in front . That is down to the year Swansea spent in the top flight and the recent six seasons they were in the Premier league because I can assure you Bridgend is on the whole cardiff city territory and when Swansea fans start creeping around in Bridgend then its clear they are our direct rivals and the team we need to be getting the better of , not Bristol city .
Pedro de la Rosa
20-12-20, 15:19
People that say Bristol are our main rivals say so after losing to Swansea. Any other time they'd say Swansea.
Lots of people grew up in an era where we never played the Jacks. We didn't play them in a single league game from 1965 to 1980. They'd class Bristol City as bigger rivals.
I want Cardiff to win and then any Welsh team after that. Football brings such a financial boost to an area now and if you want that taken away just because it's a different part of Wales it seem very strange. We're also more likely to get a positive rub from Swansea having success and nothing from Bristol advancing.
Can't say I hate any team, but if a rival is one is one you frequently find disagreeable and they appear to want to prevent your success then I'd argue Cardiff City is Cardiff City's biggest rival.
UNDERHILL1927
20-12-20, 15:45
Lots of people grew up in an era where we never played the Jacks. We didn't play them in a single league game from 1965 to 1980. They'd class Bristol City as bigger rivals.
Very true.
Splott-light...
20-12-20, 15:50
I dont even like Cardiff sometimes :hehe:
Bristolians have this unwarranted arrogance, and Swans fans are generally very bitter about the perception that we get everything, perhaps justifiably, i've become apathetic to both rivalries as i've gotten older
I can remember before the Jacks were big rivals. That's over 40 years ago now. It's clearly the Jacks. Especially as they've enjoyed some success over the last 10 years. Obviously, there are some that feel otherwise. But I'm sure the majority of the fans that would normally show up at the CCS would say Swansea.
LeningradCowboy
20-12-20, 16:28
Lots of people grew up in an era where we never played the Jacks. We didn't play them in a single league game from 1965 to 1980. They'd class Bristol City as bigger rivals.
We only played the Wurzels 10 times between 1974 and 2000, but we've played them more often than Swansea since then. I still think that the Jacks are currently our biggest rivals. I'm certainly in a worse mood after we lose to them.
Mr Soul '68
20-12-20, 16:30
Swansea for me. I'll always pick a Welsh team over English rivals.
Also, I see Brizzle City as our main rivals. it's been that way since I saw my first derby match against them in 68/69 season. Having lived and worked in Bristol, deep down they hate us more than they hate Roverzzzz
Moodybluebird
20-12-20, 17:20
Swansea for me. I'll always pick a Welsh team over English rivals.
Also, I see Brizzle City as our main rivals. it's been that way since I saw my first derby match against them in 68/69 season. Having lived and worked in Bristol, deep down they hate us more than they hate Roverzzzz
Bristol City for me, Swansea for my son, which would indicate that it is most definitely an age thing. Nothing has wound me up at a football ground more than the Scott Murray celebration when he scored against us at Ninian in 2001, a game that the Wurzels won 3-1.
Luckily the 6-0 trouncing we gave them at their place more than makes up for it.
splott parker
20-12-20, 17:27
As I’ve got older I’ve more disdain for clubs like Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, classing die hard Bristol and Swansea fans the same as us, fans who’ve stuck by their local clubs.
We only played the Wurzels 10 times between 1974 and 2000, but we've played them more often than Swansea since then. I still think that the Jacks are currently our biggest rivals. I'm certainly in a worse mood after we lose to them.
This is a good indicator.
I'm the same, this from a man who is not only old enough to remember the "old" Severnside rivalry but used to look for Swansea's results hoping they won, mainly because we'd never played them (that I can remember) as Swansea Town were in inferior division.
I see nothing wrong with disliking both equally as much.
Optimistic Nick
20-12-20, 19:11
Swansea
Nobody cares that Peter Thorne didn't sign for Bristol. There are no Bristol slums. We never ask if bristol are watching.
It's swansea
SLUDGE FACTORY
20-12-20, 19:33
Swansea
Nobody cares that Peter Thorne didn't sign for Bristol. There are no Bristol slums. We never ask if bristol are watching.
It's swansea
Is the right answer
I can't stand Bristol City, Leeds , Wolves etc
I fecking hate Swansea even more
I know plenty of jacks and plenty of my friends are jacks but I want cardiff city to win every game and Swansea to lose every game
When was the last time a song about Bristol City was sung in a game when we were not playing them ?
30 years ago ? Maybe more
splott parker
20-12-20, 19:41
[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5148067]Is the right answer
I can't stand Bristol City, Leeds , Wolves etc
I fecking hate Swansea even more
I know plenty of jacks and plenty of my friends are jacks but I want cardiff city to win every game and Swansea to lose every game
When was the last time a song about Bristol City was sung in a game when we were not playing them ?
30 years ago ? Maybe more[/QUOTE
Defecation and the Bridge is mentioned quite often :hehe:
Swansea or course, no debate required.
Kind of Blue
20-12-20, 20:02
If I had to choose, then I’d rather the wurzels win in that hypothetical by a hair’s breadth. Mainly due to what the rivalry means to the jacks we’d never hear the end of it. With the wurzels it’d be crap but it would be like pulling a plaster off - it would hurt but it would be over with.
Those early 00s encounters with the wurzels felt like feisty affairs but I think the fixture has cooled since playing the jacks more regularly and, perhaps, moving from Ninian and the old grange end.
The rivalry with the jacks remains a bit of a baffling curiosity to me still. I was around 24 when we played them again with some regularity in the late 00s after tens years without a meaningful fixture. I know it’s a rivalry cliche to say it means more to the other side but I do honestly believe it’s something more pathological for them almost, in a way that feels detrimental to us on the pitch when we play them.
As a few have said above, the older I’ve gotten the more apathetic I am about both derbies.
[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5148067]Is the right answer
I can't stand Bristol City, Leeds , Wolves etc
I fecking hate Swansea even more
I know plenty of jacks and plenty of my friends are jacks but I want cardiff city to win every game and Swansea to lose every game
When was the last time a song about Bristol City was sung in a game when we were not playing them ?
30 years ago ? Maybe more[/QUOTE
Defecation and the Bridge is mentioned quite often :hehe:
Yeah but thats sung even when we play in the Midlands or up north when we travel up the M50, nowhere near "the bridge" :hehe:
light up the darkness
20-12-20, 20:22
[QUOTE=splott parker;5148073]
Yeah but thats sung even when we play in the Midlands or up north when we travel up the M50, nowhere near "the bridge" :hehe:
The bridge of sighs
splott parker
20-12-20, 21:59
[QUOTE=splott parker;5148073]
Yeah but thats sung even when we play in the Midlands or up north when we travel up the M50, nowhere near "the bridge" :hehe:
I know, that’s how geographically daft a lot of our lot are :xmashehe:
Gofer Blue
20-12-20, 22:34
Swansea, no question.
This topic had been discussed on here on many occasions. Some say BC, some say SC.
I was talking to someone about it yesterday, and it got me thinking.
If Bristol City played Swansea in the FA cup final, who would you rather win?
I’d want the carrot crunchers to do it, as i like telling outsiders that we are the only team to take the FA cup out of England. I think somehow, there in lies my answer ��
Anyone else?
Each other reading the Christmas thread :hehe:
As rivalries both are a bit meh. Both a similar distance from cardiff and having lived in Cardiff most of my life I've met few (that I know of) of either and know personally only a single fan of either, who is a Bristol City fan.
I was very young during any sort of rivalry in the 90s and don't remember much if anything about it, my memories of a few Bristol City matches were probably my first taste of a rivalry.
Funnily enough it was living in London when met the Bristol City supporting mate. We have good banter around results, so for me, based on the matches I saw growing up and speaking to my mate it would be them.
Their rivalry is very much with Rovers first though, that inter City rivalry is something we just don't have. When you know a number of people who give you shit daily, that would be both annoying but also something far more than we have.
I have more conversations with plastic United fans day to day which says a lot, I'd probably rather they were proper swans fans.
That's me personally though. I'm very much aware as a club due to the Welsh links, some fans living far closer to each other etc that our rivalry is mainly with Swansea.
When I was working in Bridgend it was Swansea, as I came into contact with Swansea fans, they are very gobby and hate us more than Bristol fans. When I was working in Bristol it was Bristol, I think it's both, but Swansea would edge it because they're fans are definitely more gobby and jealous of us, where Bristol fans have much less of a chip on their shoulder.
When I was working in Bridgend it was Swansea, as I came into contact with Swansea fans, they are very gobby and hate us more than Bristol fans. When I was working in Bristol it was Bristol, I think it's both, but Swansea would edge it because they're fans are definitely more gobby and jealous of us, where Bristol fans have much less of a chip on their shoulder.
Jealous of what ?
Jealous of what ?
That we only got 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand :xmashehe::xmaswave:
Jealous of what ?
Everything
That we only got 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand :xmashehe::xmaswave:
And teeth :hehe:
Cyncoed Slumdog
21-12-20, 12:24
Lots of people grew up in an era where we never played the Jacks. We didn't play them in a single league game from 1965 to 1980. They'd class Bristol City as bigger rivals.
I don't agree because I'm so ancient that I saw my first game in 1957 and whether we were playing them in the league or not, I always looked for Swansea's result in the hope that they had lost (still do). However, we did meet them fairly regularly in the Welsh Cup and it was a different competition in those days and was always competitive, even before Europe came into the equation. I don't like losing to the Wurzels but it feels nothing like losing to the peg sellers.
I'd say most of my ancient mates feel the same way.
splott parker
21-12-20, 13:11
Jealous of what ?
Have you been to Swansea or do you just pop in on a match day?:xmashehe:
Des Parrot
21-12-20, 13:36
It's never been & will never be Swansea for me. Always has been & will be Bristol City, this was the rivalry of my youth, which was further compounded by spending 3 years in the my Uni days living close to Eastville and becoming a honorary Gashead. Rovers, the greyhounds and the speedway, an easy way to avoid studying!
If anything the Welsh rivalry of my yuff was with Cewnty and being in Somerton Park, losing 2-0 to goals by Tynan & Aldridge was educational!
Kind of Blue
21-12-20, 15:13
My old man comes down unequivocally on the side of the carrot crunchers. His formative years would have been between the 60s and 70s and then he moved away from South Wales so didn’t witness Toshack’s Swansea years at closer quarters.
I remember I was round my parents during the Swansea / Reading playoff final, so we had it on in the background. Support is maybe too strong a word but he was definitely far more comfortable than I with how it went, maybe a more modern comparison is with how some city fans (although not all by all means) have some amount of good will towards the cewnty? A few years earlier we both watched the wurzels playoff game and there was no such ambiguity from him when Windass’ strike went in and the result.
But we’re talking very different eras and experiences though. It’s the jacks for the majority now without question but neither derbies are particularly deep rooted I’d say.
Optimistic Nick
21-12-20, 16:31
Is the right answer
I can't stand Bristol City, Leeds , Wolves etc
I fecking hate Swansea even more
I know plenty of jacks and plenty of my friends are jacks but I want cardiff city to win every game and Swansea to lose every game
When was the last time a song about Bristol City was sung in a game when we were not playing them ?
30 years ago ? Maybe more
I think what you are saying is: you are either Cardiff; or you are a dick and we hate you. Leeds, Bristol, Milwall, Forest, Derby, whatever: we've got a way to justify bearing a grudge against you and if it was somehow possible that all other 91 teams could lose every week, that would be great. But more than any, we want to see Swansea lose, just because.
And I'd agree with that.
No point in over-analysing it because the whole notion of rivalry is pretty juvenile really and there is no rational explanation for any of this stuff that actually stands up to even the merest scrutiny. After all, we are ultimately watching grown men play a game. But for whatever reason, I enjoyed (for example) seeing Leeds get battered by Man Utd after their fans were getting all cocky about expecting to win etc. That will have really pissed on their strawberries, which is great. But it would have been even better if it had been Swansea. That is all.
In real life, I couldn't actually give a toss. I work with plenty of people who support Swansea, Millwall, endless Chelsea and Spurs; and even a West Ham fan who can read and write by himself. Makes no odds at all - it doesn't really register with me now that I'm no longer a teenager. The only ones I ever talk to about football to be honest are the ones that go to games, and even then it is only rarely. Because to be honest I don't really care about what is happening at their club, and vice versa.
That we only got 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand :xmashehe::xmaswave:
:ohwell:
Have you been to Swansea or do you just pop in on a match day?:xmashehe:
I went once on a school trip.:xmasthumbup:
splott parker
21-12-20, 17:45
I went once on a school trip.:xmasthumbup:
Now you are taking the piss.....school, indeed!!!!!:xmashehe:
It's been about 5 weeks since our defeat by Bristol City and I'm struggling to remember anything about the game.
3 weeks on and the Swansea game still annoys the hell out of me and I still have the desire to lock myself in the dressing room with the players & manager and pelt them with rotten tomatoes.
I think that just about answers the OP's question for me.
It's been about 5 weeks since our defeat by Bristol City and I'm struggling to remember anything about the game.
3 weeks on and the Swansea game still annoys the hell out of me and I still have the desire to lock myself in the dressing room with the players & manager and pelt them with ROTTEN TOMATOES
I think that just about answers the OP's question for me.
Bought too much food at Christmas again, I take it
UNDERHILL1927
29-12-20, 15:48
It's been about 5 weeks since our defeat by Bristol City and I'm struggling to remember anything about the game.
3 weeks on and the Swansea game still annoys the hell out of me and I still have the desire to lock myself in the dressing room with the players & manager and pelt them with rotten tomatoes.
I think that just about answers the OP's question for me.
Haha good way of putting it.
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