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https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=733153164061283&ref=watch_permalink
it/s mental there tonight
anarchy in the Uk .......
valleys caveman
21-03-21, 20:59
There's a rave going on in the middle of the protest!
Feel like the country's going to be a powder keg this summer
There's a rave going on in the middle of the protest!
Bizarre....
This country is becoming increasingly and worryingly right-wing.
SLUDGE FACTORY
21-03-21, 22:47
This country is becoming increasingly and worryingly right-wing.
Its been heading that way for years
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=733153164061283&ref=watch_permalink
For about 44 minutes it's just people standing around looking at a police station. Some reports of pepper spray being used and graffiti on a police van but otherwise just a crowd of people. Then a police van gets set on fire but even after that it appears that the vast majority just want to witness the event.
Gofer Blue
21-03-21, 23:14
Surprisingly, no looting reported as yet. With non-essential shops shut there must be a large pent-up demand for expensive trainers surely.
Bluebird23
22-03-21, 00:02
Surprisingly, no looting reported as yet. With non-essential shops shut there must be a large pent-up demand for expensive trainers surely.
Wrong protest.
William Treseder
22-03-21, 06:34
So lets get this right. They were protesting about having the right to peacefully protest 😀
SLUDGE FACTORY
22-03-21, 06:47
So lets get this right. They were protesting about having the right to peacefully protest 😀
There are suggestions this new police and crime bill are not going to give people as much right to do that
Look more like a load of lefty student crusty types don’t they?
SLUDGE FACTORY
22-03-21, 07:01
So lets get this right. They were protesting about having the right to peacefully protest 😀
BBC News - What is the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill and how will it change protests?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56400751
There are suggestions this new police and crime bill are not going to give people as much right to do that
If we lose the right to protest then this country has become a joke, a police state. They love to try and sneak these things through. It reminds me of the criminal justice bill back in the day.
SLUDGE FACTORY
22-03-21, 07:52
If we lose the right to protest then this country has become a joke, a police state. They love to try and sneak these things through. It reminds me of the criminal justice bill back in the day.
Thatcher stopping picketing
But letting the police charge horses into miners at Orgreave
Then the BBC showing miners fighting with police and throwing missiles , then being dispersed by police
When it was the miners who were attacked by the police on horseback and then the miners fought back
The Battle Of Orgreave is a very interesting watch
stan butler
22-03-21, 07:54
Look more like a load of lefty student crusty types don’t they?
Always the same. Scruffy student types that protest about anything thinking it's cool.
Shame the police can't use rubber bullets on them and anyone caught get any benefits or grants they claim stopped.
WJ99mobile
22-03-21, 07:55
If we lose the right to protest then this country has become a joke, a police state. They love to try and sneak these things through. It reminds me of the criminal justice bill back in the day.
After the way extinction rebellion acted last year I’m not surprised this has come in
Harry Paget Flashman
22-03-21, 08:04
Always the same. Scruffy student types that protest about anything thinking it's cool.
Shame the police can't use rubber bullets on them and anyone caught get any benefits or grants they claim stopped.
Always the same. Scruffy, ignorant types that hate people protesting because they think its cool. Shame the police can't use rubber bullets on them and anyone caught get any benefits or pensions they claim stopped.
stan butler
22-03-21, 08:08
Always the same. Scruffy, ignorant types that hate people protesting because they think its cool. Shame the police can't use rubber bullets on them and anyone caught get any benefits or pensions they claim stopped.
Knob.
SLUDGE FACTORY
22-03-21, 08:19
After the way extinction rebellion acted last year I’m not surprised this has come in
Well thats a fair point and any protests at this time of lockdown are being questioned but I think the tories are just using this as an excuse to put the boot in
Well thats a fair point and any protests at this time of lockdown are being questioned but I think the tories are just using this as an excuse to put the boot in
the legislation seems very rushed and Ill thought through.
potentially 10 years in prison for damaging a statue?
police can decide when protests begin and end and can arrest and fine people if they are too noisy.
there an a real danger that these new powers will be completely abused.
Eric Cartman
22-03-21, 09:53
After the way extinction rebellion acted last year I’m not surprised this has come in
Sitting on top of a couple of trains might look quite tame in a few years compared to the effects of climate change.
Eric Cartman
22-03-21, 09:56
the legislation seems very rushed and Ill thought through.
potentially 10 years in prison for damaging a statue?
police can decide when protests begin and end and can arrest and fine people if they are too noisy.
there an a real danger that these new powers will be completely abused.
They are designed to be abused, it won't be an accident.
we should embrace our right to protest, like the French do
we should embrace our right to protest, like the French do
Thats always popular on here.
Thats always popular on here.
it works for them
Elwood Blues
22-03-21, 11:30
Well thats a fair point and any protests at this time of lockdown are being questioned but I think the tories are just using this as an excuse to put the boot in
I have mixed views about the new bill.
However this sort of protest will only help the Government in putting its proposals through. Any Tory MP's who are lukewearm towards the new proposals are likely to look on them more favourably if this sort of nonsense goes on.
The country is to a degree getting more polarised towards left or right, but the vast majority of the country are still more moderate I believe.
Knob.
Harry Paget's right
Interesting how the police are happy to release cctv for this, but that guy that died in custody in Cardiff they won't release the cctc as it "might prejudice enquiries"
stan butler
22-03-21, 12:36
Harry Paget's right
No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.
No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
So, just to be clear, you have an in depth knowledge of every protest, and the case isn't that you've seen this and maybe one or two others that you don't like the aims of (gonna take a wild punt at...ooooh...maybe Extinction Rebellion and BLM) and now you're making sweeping angry generalisations as is fairly common with men of a certain vintage
Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.
William Treseder
22-03-21, 13:17
When i see footage like that knob battering the police van windscreen, and the ones setting it on fire, i’d love to see the cops steam in and smash the ****ers.
Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.
But we are in the middle of a bloody pandemic man. People that protest have already been proven to be unable to social distance or wear masks and not to give a hoot about their own or other peoples safety. I would support the Government in locking people in their houses to stop them going out or prison if they gather unlawfully, if it meant getting rid of the virus and ending lockdown.
William Treseder
22-03-21, 13:19
Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.
The right to peacefully protest, and the right to destroy public property and intentionally hospitalise police whilst protesting, are 2 different things.
Croesy Blue
22-03-21, 13:47
The right to peacefully protest, and the right to destroy public property and intentionally hospitalise police whilst protesting, are 2 different things.
Obviously, but the right to peacefully protest is being attacked.
Croesy Blue
22-03-21, 13:47
No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.
You have to have a pretty loose understanding of history to think like this.
Croesy Blue
22-03-21, 13:49
Always the same. Scruffy, ignorant types that hate people protesting because they think its cool. Shame the police can't use rubber bullets on them and anyone caught get any benefits or pensions they claim stopped.
Spot on.
This minority in Bristol acting like this will be used by the media to make the short sighted believe in the new bill.
It’s depressing how predictable the response on here is.
SLUDGE FACTORY
22-03-21, 13:53
Interesting how the police are happy to release cctv for this, but that guy that died in custody in Cardiff they won't release the cctc as it "might prejudice enquiries"
Very fair point
I note that several officers have been cautioned regarding that mans death . Over what I don't know .
The wurzels have always been revolting
William Treseder
22-03-21, 16:55
Obviously, but the right to peacefully protest is being attacked.
It’s being attacked, because of incidents like yesterday. These protests are the same as the football hooliganism. Probably 95% of participants in these protests, want to do it peacefully, whilst the other 5% want to cause chaos and anarchy.
95% of City fans in the 70’s and 80’s just wanted to go to games to support the City, but the 5% that made up the soul crew, wanted the aggro.
It’s the minorities, that always get their way, and the majorities get tarred with the same brush.
Imo, in a protest you'll always have those there because they want to be part of an event, those there because they're angry and want to physically express that regardless of their opinion on protest subject and those there who really believe in the cause and want to show that peacefully or otherwise.
I found in the reports this morning that Avon and Somerset Police Chief Constable was claiming there were 400-500 criminals in the protest, but does anyone buy that it was such a high number?
Two officers were injured and treated in hospital, with one suffering a punctured lung and broken ribs, and the other a fractured arm. Both have since been discharged. Twelve police vehicles were also damaged, with two set on fire. It is understood the police operation cost around £1m. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-56461796
If there were 400-500 criminals wouldn't they do much more damage than that? Or our criminals some of the worst idlers in the world too.
Regarding the protest itself, I have sympathy with those protesting what appears to be part of creeping (mostly right wing) authoritarianism in the UK and the police who had to deal with the violent group. Not an either or situation.
Harry Paget Flashman
22-03-21, 17:47
No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.
Those scruffy suffragettes. Scum of the earth.
At least Farage had the decency to wear his Sunday best when patrolling Dover.
Eric Cartman
22-03-21, 19:28
Just to recap where we are:
- 5 year fixed term parliament unless the governing party decides they want an election
- Police(/politicians) given the power to severely limit and even criminalise non-violent protest if they wish to
- No mechanism to hold politicians to account for blatant lies or failure to deliver on policy pledges.
If this sounds good to you then I would urge you to engage your brain and stop thinking about protests as 'something the other team does'.
Thankfully the press can still say whatever the handful of billionaires who own them want them to say.
LeningradCowboy
22-03-21, 19:46
Very fair point
I note that several officers have been cautioned regarding that mans death . Over what I don't know .
Four police officers have been served misconduct notices, which does not necessarily mean that they have committed any wrongdoing. It is to notify them that their conduct is being investigated.
Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.
This sums it up for me. The bill hasn’t been thought through.
It’s being attacked, because of incidents like yesterday. These protests are the same as the football hooliganism. Probably 95% of participants in these protests, want to do it peacefully, whilst the other 5% want to cause chaos and anarchy.
95% of City fans in the 70’s and 80’s just wanted to go to games to support the City, but the 5% that made up the soul crew, wanted the aggro.
It’s the minorities, that always get their way, and the majorities get tarred with the same brush.
5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters
5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters
That's about right :hehe:
5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters
Harsh, maybe 30/70?
William Treseder
22-03-21, 20:17
5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters
I’ve followed City home and away pal on and off since 75. I’ve seen it all. I was more referring to home games. It’s a given that all the nutters went to away games. Mind you, half of the firms in those days had large elements that didn’t really want to do it, but were sucked in, enjoyed the feeling of belonging, and relied on safety in numbers.
Just like the arseholes causing bother yesterday, they’d have shit yellow if they’d found themselves all alone.
SLUDGE FACTORY
22-03-21, 21:10
I’ve followed City home and away pal on and off since 75. I’ve seen it all. I was more referring to home games. It’s a given that all the nutters went to away games. Mind you, half of the firms in those days had large elements that didn’t really want to do it, but were sucked in, enjoyed the feeling of belonging, and relied on safety in numbers.
Just like the arseholes causing bother yesterday, they’d have shit yellow if they’d found themselves all alone.
80s , 90s and through much of hammams time , a lot of nutters
Nowadays less so due to cctv but before covid there was still a sizeable hard core of city fans who liked a row
Football violence is now dead following covid
5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters
even them 10% normal fans would have a drink and enjoy the day out
life on mars
23-03-21, 00:53
Surprisingly, no looting reported as yet. With non-essential shops shut there must be a large pent-up demand for expensive trainers surely.
Sports Direct well boarded up otherwise it could have got ugly ,bloody right wing protests.
Gofer Blue
23-03-21, 10:30
Sports Direct well boarded up otherwise it could have got ugly ,bloody right wing protests.
Ah, that explains it. An opportunity for a new pair of trainers for free thwarted there then. Maybe no TV shops in the vicinity either, otherwise a great opportunity to possess the latest 55" TV.
even them 10% normal fans would have a drink and enjoy the day out
Sometimes it was the ones who weren’t dressed in the casual clobber who appeared to be the most insane.....just a normal looking person in a city top ( which was actually a rare sight back in the day)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jf11ovvww
saw this earlier this evening
Chief Constable of Avon and Somerset Police, Andy Marsh, now says there were not broken bones or punctured lungs.
"Regarding last night's operation to disperse protestors on College Green he said the use of force was "appropriate" (there is footage of officers punching and dragging protestors)."
https://twitter.com/SimsonPete/status/1374695796541640704 and https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bristol-protests-police-take-back-23798401
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