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Former Labour leader
22-04-21, 21:45
I wont be going inside a pub for a long time but I guess a few on here will.
First Minister Mark Drakeford said: "It is my assessment that the hospitality sector - bars, pubs, restaurants and cafes - will be able to open indoors from May 17, together with all other tourist accommodation, indoor entertainment and attractions."
Plaid accused him of rule by dictat some time ago and this statement puts collective government decisions straight in the bin.
Thought it was a medical numbers decision, not an individual choice ?
Thought it was a medical numbers decision, not an individual choice ?
I hope you get the irony of what you've just posted.
I hope you get the irony of what you've just posted.
No, but you should :hehe:
No, but you should :hehe:
It's not me who blames one man when he makes a decision i don't like, and when it's a decision i agree with, it must be a joint effort..... :hehe:
It's not me who blames one man when he makes a decision i don't like, and when it's a decision i agree with, it must be a joint effort..... :hehe:
You said Duckford listened to the numbers, when he is clearly just after votes
ManBearPig
23-04-21, 08:38
It could be looked at two ways
1) They are following the numbers. Things are better than expected so they can open more, quicker.
2) Oh sh!t, an election is coming and no one likes us because we are unlocking pubs, gyms, etc slower than England. Lets open them before people vote
You said Duckford listened to the numbers, when he is clearly just after votes
jeez, do you want them open or not?
First Minister Mark Drakeford said: "It is my assessment that the hospitality sector - bars, pubs, restaurants and cafes - will be able to open indoors from May 17, together with all other tourist accommodation, indoor entertainment and attractions."
Plaid accused him of rule by dictat some time ago and this statement puts collective government decisions straight in the bin.
wow you are reading a lot into one word choice there. some people on here seem determined to see anything Drakeford does in a completely negative light, even though he has demonstrably fared better than the lying cheat that is in charge in England
splott parker
23-04-21, 09:26
Wasn’t today the normal three weekly review that the Senedd has done for the past twelve month? So it was the normal time to announce changes whether relaxing or more stringent. Apparently Wales are doing pretty well on things Covid related at the moment compared to others yet some are still complaining that they can’t get a pint when there’s far more needier places that need reopening. It would be interesting if the ones moaning at Mark (well they call their idol Boris) would post a list of things that they would have done completely (not just a little bit) different to the way things have been done by the Senedd. While I’m not in full agreement with all that’s gone on in Wales, I’m happier that I’m living here rather than England.
wow you are reading a lot into one word choice there. some people on here seem determined to see anything Drakeford does in a completely negative light, even though he has demonstrably fared better than the lying cheat that is in charge in England
Quite right.
I wont be going inside a pub for a long time but I guess a few on here will.
Think a lot of people have got used to not going to pubs now, socialising even.....
Wasn’t today the normal three weekly review that the Senedd has done for the past twelve month? So it was the normal time to announce changes whether relaxing or more stringent. Apparently Wales are doing pretty well on things Covid related at the moment compared to others yet some are still complaining that they can’t get a pint when there’s far more needier places that need reopening. It would be interesting if the ones moaning at Mark (well they call their idol Boris) would post a list of things that they would have done completely (not just a little bit) different to the way things have been done by the Senedd. While I’m not in full agreement with all that’s gone on in Wales, I’m happier that I’m living here rather than England.
I don't think the argument is about the relaxation of the rules, it is more about the convention that Ministers do not use ministerial announcements for party political purposes during an election, and they are implying it is an announcement for party political gain because he previously said, (despite good numbers even then) that they would not be allowed to open until the end of may at the earliest. They see that as moving the goal posts to show the labour administration on a good light to would be voters who like to go to the pub. There are one or two such people in Wales surprisingly. :hehe:
Personally I cannot imagine why they would think such a thing. :tumbleweed:
wow you are reading a lot into one word choice there. some people on here seem determined to see anything Drakeford does in a completely negative light, even though he has demonstrably fared better than the lying cheat that is in charge in England
nothing political in your post then. That's a relief I thought for a moment you were going to taint your unblemished middle of the road credentials. :hehe:
I put emphisis on one word because it appears to back up what many members of the Senedd said about they way he was making rules and decisions during the pandemic. The words used were 'rule by dictat' implying that the Senedd were given no opportunity to discuss or approve anything before a decision was made. And clearly as he only ever announces anything every 3 weeks there should have been opportunity. As I mentioned before I know several people who have worked close to him and they all agree that he is a bully an autocrat and a not-very-nice man. So him making all the calls would sit with that.
The other thing is the man himself. He is a pro-communist hard left momentum supported politician who believes that the state should control everything in peoples day to day lives. I said before it would have been better if Carwyn Jones were still 1st Minister.
I accept that he has made some good decisions but there is always the underlying doubt that he has made them for the wrong reasons, often just to be different to England, and he has not had enough consideration for business and the people who's livelihoods depend on them, and the damage every extra day does to the Welsh economy.
But hey, that's just my opinon, just 1 vote!
Taunton Blue Genie
23-04-21, 13:37
Think a lot of people have got used to not going to pubs now, socialising even.....
People are flocking to pub gardens here in Somerset and Devon.
People are flocking to pub gardens here in Somerset and Devon.
Should anyone be surprised? Pubs are a long standing part of traditional British life, part of communities for hundreds of years. People actually enjoy going to the pub.
I know! Mad isn't it!!!
People are flocking to pub gardens here in Somerset and Devon.
Like sheep
People are flocking to pub gardens here in Somerset and Devon.
The weather is helping that, let’s face it, it’s been the longest winter ever known to mankind. I’m all for going to a pub but I can’t be arsed with booking time slots, filling out details on arrival, pre ordering drinks via an app and all that guff....
Should anyone be surprised? Pubs are a long standing part of traditional British life, part of communities for hundreds of years. People actually enjoy going to the pub.
I know! Mad isn't it!!!
Mainly full of old people these days too....
nothing political in your post then. That's a relief I thought for a moment you were going to taint your unblemished middle of the road credentials. :hehe:
I put emphisis on one word because it appears to back up what many members of the Senedd said about they way he was making rules and decisions during the pandemic. The words used were 'rule by dictat' implying that the Senedd were given no opportunity to discuss or approve anything before a decision was made. And clearly as he only ever announces anything every 3 weeks there should have been opportunity. As I mentioned before I know several people who have worked close to him and they all agree that he is a bully an autocrat and a not-very-nice man. So him making all the calls would sit with that.
The other thing is the man himself. He is a pro-communist hard left momentum supported politician who believes that the state should control everything in peoples day to day lives. I said before it would have been better if Carwyn Jones were still 1st Minister.
I accept that he has made some good decisions but there is always the underlying doubt that he has made them for the wrong reasons, often just to be different to England, and he has not had enough consideration for business and the people who's livelihoods depend on them, and the damage every extra day does to the Welsh economy.
But hey, that's just my opinon, just 1 vote!
So how many more people do you think he should have allowed to die so as not to hurt the welsh economy?
Taunton Blue Genie
23-04-21, 15:19
The weather is helping that, let’s face it, it’s been the longest winter ever known to mankind. I’m all for going to a pub but I can’t be arsed with booking time slots, filling out details on arrival, pre ordering drinks via an app and all that guff....
I've been to four different pub gardens after four different walks and:
1. I didn't book a time slot with any of them
2. I didn't fill out any details on arrival
3. I didn't pre-order drinks via an app.
In three of the pub gardens our orders were taken via table service and payment was taken by a remote card reader. Drinks were delivered at the table.
in the remaining case I went to where a till was i.e. a few yards away
It was a far more pleasurable experience in each case than standing indoors at a bar and trying to work out who should be served first - and then transporting the drinks outside without spilling them.
Cheer up you grumpy so-and-so :-)
2 pubs Ive seen ( infact I helped finish the woodwork for a mate on one ) have just setup the pub outside, one has a row of 20 sheds ( with the doors removed ) and about 20 picnic tables with a temp bar ( with all some fridges on a pallet, which gets wheeled in through the main doors at night and 4 drafts ) setup up in the car park ( it literally is the pub just in the car park ) the other down the canal just has maybe 30 picnic tables outside and you just order from the server who comes around occasionally
both look like they are doing a roaring trade
I've been to four different pub gardens after four different walks and:
1. I didn't book a time slot with any of them
2. I didn't fill out any details on arrival
3. I didn't pre-order drinks via an app.
In three of the pub gardens our orders were taken via table service and payment was taken by a remote card reader. Drinks were delivered at the table.
in the remaining case I went to where a till was i.e. a few yards away
It was a far more pleasurable experience in each case than standing indoors at a bar and trying to work out who should be served first - and then transporting the drinks outside without spilling them.
Cheer up you grumpy so-and-so :-)
The last three pubs I went to, the pen and wig, the Heath and the Crwys were all like I stated....bollox to that spending 30 minutes getting in and getting a drink....the discovery was a bit different, we just rocked up sat outside and they came and served us. If they can do that I’m in....city pubs might be slightly different
Ive got 2 bookings for next week and will probably add a 3rd. Cant wait to go.
Not the just drink really miss the social side.
Monster munch
23-04-21, 16:13
I much prefer the table service and I’m all for it going forward after the pandemic. Still have a bar where blokes can just stand/lean against looking around confused (never understood why blokes do that) but places with an app it’s even easier and table service is much convenient. Certainly for the bigger places.
Each to their own I guess but very excited to see the boozers are opening now!
life on mars
23-04-21, 16:18
this is all that matters in life now
So how many more people do you think he should have allowed to die so as not to hurt the welsh economy?
None obviously.
How many people would have died with any one of a myriad of different decisions? You have no idea you just say that and think people will accept it. you have no more idea if more would have died than if less would have died. It's bullshit.
SLUDGE FACTORY
23-04-21, 19:41
I don't mind pubs at lunchtime or early evening for some basic grub like a steak or curry etc with a lady friend or lady boy
But sod going to the boozer at night , full of drunks 🥴
Boring
splott parker
23-04-21, 20:00
None obviously.
How many people would have died with any one of a myriad of different decisions? You have no idea you just say that and think people will accept it. you have no more idea if more would have died than if less would have died. It's bullshit.
I touched on this in an earlier post, someone mentioning the words ‘covid’ and ‘bullshit’ in the same sentence within earshot of somebody who has lost a loved one could have a nasty outcome.
I touched on this in an earlier post, someone mentioning the words ‘covid’ and ‘bullshit’ in the same sentence within earshot of somebody who has lost a loved one could have a nasty outcome.
Clearly, and your point is?
I think the words used here should be taken to mean what they clearly mean.
no one said covid was bullshit, in fact I didn't use the word covid at all.
But what some people spout as fact when it is just conjecture or opinion - - - that's bullshit!
splott parker
23-04-21, 20:40
Clearly, and your point is?
I think the words used here should be taken to mean what they clearly mean.
no one said covid was bullshit, in fact I didn't use the word covid at all.
But what some people spout as fact when it is just conjecture or opinion - - - that's bullshit!
I’ve heard a few say covid is bullshit, haven’t you? I just picked up on your use of the word bullshit, I’m so sorry if I offended you by using it.
I’ve heard a few say covid is bullshit, haven’t you? I just picked up on your use of the word bullshit, I’m so sorry if I offended you by using it.
Stop offending people. Next you'll be opening doors for women and calling them 'love' I'm writing to Mike.
splott parker
23-04-21, 21:04
Stop offending people. Next you'll be opening doors for women and calling them 'love' I'm writing to Mike.
Don’t start me off, I’ve been wolf whistling from the scaffold all day, I’m all warbled out!!!!
Jordi Culé
23-04-21, 21:09
Think a lot of people have got used to not going to pubs now, socialising even.....
Not being able to go to the pub plus message boards on forums such as CCMB (it’s the only one I visit) has made me realise how lucky I’ve been to avoid the unavoidable twats you have to negotiate in pubs usually, during lockdown.
You probably feel the same.:biggrin:
Not being able to go to the pub plus message boards on forums such as CCMB (it’s the only one I visit) has made me realise how lucky I’ve been to avoid the unavoidable twats you have to negotiate in pubs usually, during lockdown.
You probably feel the same.:biggrin:
Yeah, my nearest pub has this bunch of fat, middle aged, i'll fitting shirt wearing bunch of arseholes who stand by the bar drinking, blocking everyone else who wants to get a drink. The landlord has bants with them because they're always there. *****.
Stop offending people. Next you'll be opening doors for women and calling them 'love' I'm writing to Mike.
Stop offending people by telling them to stop offending people. Someone might take offence.
Taunton Blue Genie
23-04-21, 22:21
Yeah, my nearest pub has this bunch of fat, middle aged, i'll fitting shirt wearing bunch of arseholes who stand by the bar drinking, blocking everyone else who wants to get a drink. The landlord has bants with them because they're always there. *****.
I use to make the same observations but eventually realised that there were mirrors behind the bar....
Yeah, my nearest pub has this bunch of fat, middle aged, i'll fitting shirt wearing bunch of arseholes who stand by the bar drinking, blocking everyone else who wants to get a drink. The landlord has bants with them because they're always there. *****.
Is that the birchgrove or the Albany?
So how many more people do you think he should have allowed to die so as not to hurt the welsh economy?
More to the point how many will die between now and the 17th May ?
Nothing radical is going to happen over the next 3-4 weeks so we may as well open now.
More to the point how many will die between now and the 17th May ?
Nothing radical is going to happen over the next 3-4 weeks so we may as well open now.
When are the elections? It’s all timed so Drakeford gets the glory just at the right time isn’t?
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