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dembethewarrior
09-07-21, 11:25
"Cardiff City boss 'keen on a reunion' with APOEL's Jack Byrne - The 72" https://the72.co.uk/241709/cardiff-city-boss-keen-on-a-reunion-with-apoels-jack-byrne/amp/
He might be a gem. We won't know until he's hit the grass
BUT what is it with managers and favourites? I understand they know players strengths etc, but at what point do you drawn the line? Shouldn't it be more about what the club you're at needs, rather than just bringing in old heads you already know?
AfricanBluebird
09-07-21, 11:32
"Cardiff City boss 'keen on a reunion' with APOEL's Jack Byrne - The 72" https://the72.co.uk/241709/cardiff-city-boss-keen-on-a-reunion-with-apoels-jack-byrne/amp/
He might be a gem. We won't know until he's hit the grass
BUT what is it with managers and favourites? I understand they know players strengths etc, but at what point do you drawn the line? Shouldn't it be more about what the club you're at needs, rather than just bringing in old heads you already know?
I think I've mentioned on here when Mick joined that Jack wouldn't be too far behind him.
He is an interesting one though is Jack.
Eight clubs and he's only 25.
Was the next big thing at Man city and hugely thought of
Played at every level for Ireland.
And yet he's not playing anywhere the the level that his earlier promise had indicated he would be.
He's actually got everything... Pace, dribbling, crossing, goals and his ability to keep the ball and pick out a pass is unreal.
A mystery why it hasn't worked at club level for him.
Bald Barry Bastad
09-07-21, 12:19
I think I've mentioned on here when Mick joined that Jack wouldn't be too far behind him.
He is an interesting one though is Jack.
Eight clubs and he's only 25.
Was the next big thing at Man city and hugely thought of
Played at every level for Ireland.
And yet he's not playing anywhere the the level that his earlier promise had indicated he would be.
He's actually got everything... Pace, dribbling, crossing, goals and his ability to keep the ball and pick out a pass is unreal.
A mystery why it hasn't worked at club level for him.
In other words a poor buy who will become the latest waste of space.
I think I've mentioned on here when Mick joined that Jack wouldn't be too far behind him.
He is an interesting one though is Jack.
Eight clubs and he's only 25.
Was the next big thing at Man city and hugely thought of
Played at every level for Ireland.
And yet he's not playing anywhere the the level that his earlier promise had indicated he would be.
He's actually got everything... Pace, dribbling, crossing, goals and his ability to keep the ball and pick out a pass is unreal.
A mystery why it hasn't worked at club level for him.
Yes strange career so far, his best season was probably 17/18 with 5 goals and 9 assists in league one for Oldham (who were relegated that season), but from there he's gone to the SPL and barely played and then went to the Irish league, before Mick took him to Cyprus.
Plays either as an attacking midfield or a central midfield.
dembethewarrior
09-07-21, 12:33
I think I've mentioned on here when Mick joined that Jack wouldn't be too far behind him.
He is an interesting one though is Jack.
Eight clubs and he's only 25.
Was the next big thing at Man city and hugely thought of
Played at every level for Ireland.
And yet he's not playing anywhere the the level that his earlier promise had indicated he would be.
He's actually got everything... Pace, dribbling, crossing, goals and his ability to keep the ball and pick out a pass is unreal.
A mystery why it hasn't worked at club level for him.
I remember the name can't recall ever seeing him play, we've had it with Dave Jones where he's brought players in and turned them around, I'm not saying Mick can't do that with Byrne here, I was just curious as to why managers always seem to do it, in some cases it works out and in others it is just like they get them in because they have worked with them before and don't give a thought about the ambition and level of the club.
around the same time he was released by Oldham (as a 22 year old), they also sacked Antony Gerrard for arguing with fans on twitter
seems like they may have been desperate to reduce the wage bill.
Maybe he needs to find his spiritual home, ie:---- A lot of loving.
Looks incredible in the league of ireland (yeah i know)
youtube.com/watch?v=efGitkiCdMs
Monster munch
09-07-21, 14:01
Just had a google on him and this article from a few days ago popped up from when patrick vieira was academy manager at man city.
https://punditarena.com/football/rudi-kinsella/patrick-vieira-jack-byrne/
He said: “If you want to play direct, Jack will be useless but if you want to keep the ball on the floor, and you need someone really creative, Jack will be the player who can do that.”
:hehe:
Jeez, McCarthy must be completely changing the whole fabric of how we play then...
Shrewsbury Blue
09-07-21, 14:26
His record doesn't inspire much confidence. He has only played 6 games in the championship 4 for Blacburn who had signed him on a season long loan which they promptly cancelled after seeing him play. He was signed by Wigan on a two and a half year deal and only played for them twice. He has only played for his Cyprus club five times. He sounds like one of those really talented youngsters who for whatever reason never made it.
Not saying MM can't revive his career but on the basis of past performance it sounds unlikely. Wonder if Apoel will want a transfer fee for him or just be glad to get him off the wage bill.
His record doesn't inspire much confidence. He has only played 6 games in the championship 4 for Blacburn who had signed him on a season long loan which they promptly cancelled after seeing him play. He was signed by Wigan on a two and a half year deal and only played for them twice. He has only played for his Cyprus club five times. He sounds like one of those really talented youngsters who for whatever reason never made it.
Not saying MM can't revive his career but on the basis of past performance it sounds unlikely. Wonder if Apoel will want a transfer fee for him or just be glad to get him off the wage bill.
He was injured for much of the time in Cyprus apparently. Mick has worked with him already so presumably would know what he's getting.
Wages shouldn't be high should they?
dembethewarrior
09-07-21, 15:05
Just had a google on him and this article from a few days ago popped up from when patrick vieira was academy manager at man city.
https://punditarena.com/football/rudi-kinsella/patrick-vieira-jack-byrne/
He said: “If you want to play direct, Jack will be useless but if you want to keep the ball on the floor, and you need someone really creative, Jack will be the player who can do that.”
:hehe:
Jeez, McCarthy must be completely changing the whole fabric of how we play then...
He's our cheap Barry Bannan.
Sounds LIKE a player we could use, stop us bypassing midfield. Not to say what he will or won't be until he signs and kicks a ball.. Chances are it's all 2+2=6 speculation and a lazy link
Nobody's Rep
09-07-21, 16:20
Maybe he needs to find his spiritual home, ie:---- A lot of loving.
No point him coming to us then and especially not looking on either message board if he is a sensitive soul 👍
AfricanBluebird
09-07-21, 17:06
Looks incredible in the league of ireland (yeah i know)
youtube.com/watch?v=efGitkiCdMs
I know right.
But some of the goalkeeping 👀🙈🤣🤣
RonnieBird
09-07-21, 17:10
It’s getting like Fred Carno’s army.
LeningradCowboy
09-07-21, 17:20
This would be worse than signing Jonny Williams.
This would be worse than signing Jonny Williams.
or it could be better
life on mars
09-07-21, 18:11
Tomlin part 2
LeningradCowboy
09-07-21, 18:41
or it could be better
Byrne is 25 and hasn't played football at a decent level for almost three years. The chances of him being a good signing for a Championship club are minuscule.
Let's be fair our standard of signings has improved since Warnock left. Last summer we brought in Moore, and had Wilson, Osei-Tutu, Phillips and Ojo on loan. Best not to mention Benkovic! McCarthy has only signed Williams which proved not to be the best signings, but he has given chances, due to injuries, to Bagan, Sang, Brown and Colwill. Ng was a good signing too. At least MM is looking at younger talent with a point to prove, and Wintle from Crewe who is looking to step up. I imagine Byrne would be a cheap signing, in wages too, and would be a fringe player but MM knows him and probably believes he can make him a better player.
FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
10-07-21, 15:42
I would disregard most of his early career, by all accounts he had some off field issues. Going back to Ireland clearly helped in that regard and by the time his contract ran out it was obvious he was going to play at a higher level.
His Cyprus experience is a strange one - Mick was sacked about 3 days after he signed, Apoel had one of their worst ever seasons, and he got injured fairly quickly. So it hasn't really worked out for him, although the coach has spoken highly of him several times.
That said, I've seen him play live in the Europa League and he has real quality. His dead ball delivery is superb, he can pick out a pass, and he isnt afraid to put himself about.
Apoel are skint right now so I think he could be available for a low fee or even free, and I think he'd be worth a punt on that basis - especially for a manager he knows and trusts.
stan butler
10-07-21, 15:51
I would disregard most of his early career, by all accounts he had some off field issues. Going back to Ireland clearly helped in that regard and by the time his contract ran out it was obvious he was going to play at a higher level.
His Cyprus experience is a strange one - Mick was sacked about 3 days after he signed, Apoel had one of their worst ever seasons, and he got injured fairly quickly. So it hasn't really worked out for him, although the coach has spoken highly of him several times.
That said, I've seen him play live in the Europa League and he has real quality. His dead ball delivery is superb, he can pick out a pass, and he isnt afraid to put himself about.
Apoel are skint right now so I think he could be available for a low fee or even free, and I think he'd be worth a punt on that basis - especially for a manager he knows and trusts.
Good post :thumbup:
Bald Barry Bastad
10-07-21, 16:36
I would disregard most of his early career, by all accounts he had some off field issues. Going back to Ireland clearly helped in that regard and by the time his contract ran out it was obvious he was going to play at a higher level.
His Cyprus experience is a strange one - Mick was sacked about 3 days after he signed, Apoel had one of their worst ever seasons, and he got injured fairly quickly. So it hasn't really worked out for him, although the coach has spoken highly of him several times.
That said, I've seen him play live in the Europa League and he has real quality. His dead ball delivery is superb, he can pick out a pass, and he isnt afraid to put himself about.
Apoel are skint right now so I think he could be available for a low fee or even free, and I think he'd be worth a punt on that basis - especially for a manager he knows and trusts.
That sounds more encouraging.
dembethewarrior
10-07-21, 16:36
I would disregard most of his early career, by all accounts he had some off field issues. Going back to Ireland clearly helped in that regard and by the time his contract ran out it was obvious he was going to play at a higher level.
His Cyprus experience is a strange one - Mick was sacked about 3 days after he signed, Apoel had one of their worst ever seasons, and he got injured fairly quickly. So it hasn't really worked out for him, although the coach has spoken highly of him several times.
That said, I've seen him play live in the Europa League and he has real quality. His dead ball delivery is superb, he can pick out a pass, and he isnt afraid to put himself about.
Apoel are skint right now so I think he could be available for a low fee or even free, and I think he'd be worth a punt on that basis - especially for a manager he knows and trusts.
👍
Shrewsbury Blue
10-07-21, 22:57
I would disregard most of his early career, by all accounts he had some off field issues. Going back to Ireland clearly helped in that regard and by the time his contract ran out it was obvious he was going to play at a higher level.
His Cyprus experience is a strange one - Mick was sacked about 3 days after he signed, Apoel had one of their worst ever seasons, and he got injured fairly quickly. So it hasn't really worked out for him, although the coach has spoken highly of him several times.
That said, I've seen him play live in the Europa League and he has real quality. His dead ball delivery is superb, he can pick out a pass, and he isnt afraid to put himself about.
Apoel are skint right now so I think he could be available for a low fee or even free, and I think he'd be worth a punt on that basis - especially for a manager he knows and trusts.
Trouble is if you disregard his early career when he had issues and his later career when he had injuries there is not a lot else left. His spell at Shamrock Rovers maybe but what standard of football is that? maybe National league here and I suspect that might be pushing it. He might just be able to turn him round but given his previous it would be a minor miracle.
Man city thought he was going to be a big player when he was younger, we know it didnt work out for him
He is going to be a fairly low risk signing on low wages ( you would hope ), got to be worth a punt
what a novel thing it would be to have a decent CAM, at least one who didnt eat 7 Greggs pasties for lunch
dembethewarrior
11-07-21, 11:28
Man city thought he was going to be a big player when he was younger, we know it didnt work out for him
He is going to be a fairly low risk signing on low wages ( you would hope ), got to be worth a punt
what a novel thing it would be to have a decent CAM, at least one who didnt eat 7 Greggs pasties for lunch
Isn't Colwill a CAM?
RonnieBird
11-07-21, 11:37
Yeah but even with great potential he’s only had a few games and that could go either way.
If we’re scraping the barrel like this why not get Harry Arter out of the Care Home ?
He sounds like another Tony Watt. Good player, very skilful but cannot settle anywhere.
PhyllisStant
11-07-21, 11:49
He would certainly bring us that creative spark that we've been missing in Tomlin's absence and having both in the squad would potentially mitigate any issues with inconsistency - with Mick being able to make a like for like sub if things aren't working.
Isn't Colwill a CAM?
yes, but will he be ready for playing every game ? ? ? hopefully he will
splott parker
11-07-21, 15:47
Not keen on his initials:hide:
dembethewarrior
11-07-21, 17:01
yes, but will he be ready for playing every game ? ? ? hopefully he will
He's not a pup is he, he's got to be given a go. Use him and bring on Tomlim or vice versa. I think we need to stop mollycoddling and get in with it.
dembethewarrior
11-07-21, 17:01
Not keen on his initials:hide:
Bastard.
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