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the other bob wilson
20-07-21, 06:56
It's been confirmed he plays for Everton.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-premier-league-footballer-arrested-24571071#source=breaking-news
If the police are going to mention his age they may aswell name him. There's only two 31 year olds in Everton's squad
If the police are going to mention his age they may aswell name him. There's only two 31 year olds in Everton's squad
Yes anyone can google squad ages. They should now say as it is not fair on the one who is completely uninvolved.
the other bob wilson
20-07-21, 07:25
If the police are going to mention his age they may aswell name him. There's only two 31 year olds in Everton's squad
His name's been on Twitter a lot apparently and, if it's right, he's no stranger to south Wales - I think what happened was that the police did not name his club, but Everton have subsequently confirmed he plays for them.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-england-eve/everton-suspend-first-team-player-pending-police-investigation-idUKKBN2EQ071
Sunnysideup
20-07-21, 07:30
It’ll all come out in the wash.
Be careful though…Jimmy Tarbuck/Bill Cosby to name a few
- innocent 😇
Time will tell Bob
His name's been on Twitter a lot apparently and, if it's right, he's no stranger to south Wales - I think what happened was that the police did not name his club, but Everton have subsequently confirmed he plays for them.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-england-eve/everton-suspend-first-team-player-pending-police-investigation-idUKKBN2EQ071
The wife of "a 31 year old everton football player with links to south wales" has denied he's been arrested for anything.
It’ll all come out in the wash.
Be careful though…Jimmy Tarbuck/Bill Cosby to name a few
- innocent ��
Time will tell Bob
Was Bill Cosby innocent?
We’ve got to remember that whoever it is should be treated innocent until proven Gylfi
We’ve got to remember that whoever it is should be treated innocent until proven Gylfi
:hehe:
Sunnysideup
20-07-21, 07:53
The more money you’ve got determines how guilty you are it seems?
OJ got off - best lawyers money could buy
Oscar Pistorious not so lucky
Prince Andrew never met the girl in question
Harry Rednapp’s dog was guilty 😂
Armitage Shanks
20-07-21, 09:22
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dembethewarrior
20-07-21, 09:25
31 and a regular international.
Gilfy is the only one at that age that plays international football, other one at that age is Delph who obviously doesn't play.
dembethewarrior
20-07-21, 09:25
We’ve got to remember that whoever it is should be treated innocent until proven Gylfi
Well played.
dembethewarrior
20-07-21, 09:29
Can hear the chants now, when we finally play the Jack's.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57899127
StraightOuttaCanton
20-07-21, 12:30
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.italy24news.com/News/amp/125552
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57899127
"The 31-year-old man,who has not been named for legal reasons, was detained on Friday by Greater Manchester Police."
Just a reminder for anyone wanting to share the name: don't.
RonnieBird
20-07-21, 13:04
https://global247news.com/2021/07/19/gylfi-sigurdsson-arrested-on-suspicion-of-child-sex-offences/amp/
Sunnysideup
20-07-21, 13:10
Innocent until proven guilty!!
I’m not sure how the Police can actually police what’s said online?
Especially after my dealings with ActionFraud
Complete waste of fecking time
Look what happened a few years back with the Ryan Giggs super injunction trying to gag the press.
Social media won.
If the authorities can only prosecute one solitary racist for the hate crimes directed at Rashford and Co after they’re unlucky penalty misses ( and that was after the retard posted online under his own name pmsl) then what chance of successful prosecutions over speculation?
Good luck with that.
We don’t even know if it’s true or what he’s actually accused of?
There is hope however….a serial shagger and adulterer (proven) with assault charges thrown in to spice up proceedings and you could still manage your country 🤔
https://global247news.com/2021/07/19/gylfi-sigurdsson-arrested-on-suspicion-of-child-sex-offences/amp/
Wind up website!!!
Steve Days site isnt it with quotes from football presenter Adam Brown???!!°. Isnt he the UKIP bloke from Merthyr.?
FFS.
Llandaff Blue
20-07-21, 13:18
"The 31-year-old man,who has not been named for legal reasons, was detained on Friday by Greater Manchester Police."
Just a reminder for anyone wanting to share the name: don't.
It's Gylfi
"The 31-year-old man,who has not been named for legal reasons, was detained on Friday by Greater Manchester Police."
Just a reminder for anyone wanting to share the name: don't.
I thought legal reasons also meant releasing any information from which his identity could be derived.
Whomever it is, he's not Gylfi until proven otherwise.
Llandaff Blue
20-07-21, 13:43
I thought legal reasons also meant releasing any information from which his identity could be derived.
Whomever it is, he's not Gylfi until proven otherwise.
No. The law stops the name from being reported as he hasn't been charged, but they are free to use other details to describe who it is.
Like how the mail said a 31 year old married Everton player who regularly plays for his international team was arrested by North Manchester police. I don't know why you or the other guy is trying to pretend otherwise, there's no legal ramifications for any of us by saying it's quite obviously Gylfi that's been arrested. No-one is saying he's guilty.
life on mars
20-07-21, 13:55
Was Bill Cosby innocent?
Free man I think , what did Tarby do ?/
https://davidbanksmedialaw.com/2011/11/22/contempt-of-court-and-how-to-avoid-it/
The Contempt of Court Act 1981 swept this aside and created the concept of ‘active’ proceedings. Proceedings are active when someone has been arrested; a warrant has been issued; they have been orally charged or an information has been laid. If none of these things has happened then contempt evaporates as a problem – publish whatever you like.
3. OK, proceedings ARE active, what should I avoid
Publishing something which creates a substantial risk of serious prejudice or serious impediment to those proceedings.
4. What does that mean?
Well, that’s a little subjective, but case law has shown the following to be a problem:
*Photos or descriptions where identity is at issue – ie the defendant claims it was not him who committed the crime and the prosecution has eyewitnesses whose testimony has to be tested by way of an ID parade. They must rely on their memory of the offence, not a photo helpfully published by the media. This action cause the record fine for contempt (so far) £80,000 for the Sun and £20,000 for Kelvin MacKenzie as editor.
*Assumptions of guilt – in crime reports, police have arrested A man, not THE man.
*Previous convictions – not normally allowed in as evidence, so don’t go informing the jury of them.
*Blackening a defendant’s character – if the prosecution do it in front of the jury, that’s fine. Just don’t do it yourself as they await trial.
5. Does this mean a media blackout about a crime if proceedings are active?
No. The CCA 1981 was drafted in response to the Sunday Times coverage of the Thalidomide scandal, which had been found in contempt under the old common law. The ST took an appeal all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, which ruled that the common law contempt, as applied, was in breach of the ST’s right to freedom of speech. So the CCA 1981 includes a Section 5 defence of ‘discussion of public affairs’. So, for example, a euthanasia trial does not shut down all mention or discussion in the media of the issues of euthanasia. But such discussion should avoid direct commentary on the trial.
No. The law stops the name from being reported as he hasn't been charged, but they are free to use other details to describe who it is.
Like how the mail said a 31 year old married Everton player who regularly plays for his international team was arrested by North Manchester police. I don't know why you or the other guy is trying to pretend otherwise, there's no legal ramifications for any of us by saying it's quite obviously Gylfi that's been arrested. No-one is saying he's guilty.
I was only querying what the police are or are not allowed to say about the person arrested. I'm not pretending anything.
The more money you’ve got determines how guilty you are it seems?
OJ got off - best lawyers money could buy
Oscar Pistorious not so lucky
Prince Andrew never met the girl in question
Harry Rednapp’s dog was guilty 😂You've just reminded me of a topical (in 1994) knock knock joke
"Knock knock"
"who's there?"
"OJ"
"OJ who?"
"Get sworn in, you're on the jury!"
cyril evans awaydays
20-07-21, 15:18
https://global247news.com/2021/07/19/gylfi-sigurdsson-arrested-on-suspicion-of-child-sex-offences/amp/
Are you Pedro Martinez, Ronnie? I recognise the writing style.
“He’s defiantly been nicked; all my contacts on Merseyside have confirmed this all day.
You could add, resisting arrest to the charge sheet based on that bit of reporting.
By the way, how did you vote on Browny's Foxy Knoxy poll, Yes or No?
dembethewarrior
20-07-21, 21:49
Innocent until proven guilty!!
I’m not sure how the Police can actually police what’s said online?
Especially after my dealings with ActionFraud
Complete waste of fecking time
Look what happened a few years back with the Ryan Giggs super injunction trying to gag the press.
Social media won.
If the authorities can only prosecute one solitary racist for the hate crimes directed at Rashford and Co after they’re unlucky penalty misses ( and that was after the retard posted online under his own name pmsl) then what chance of successful prosecutions over speculation?
Good luck with that.
We don’t even know if it’s true or what he’s actually accused of?
There is hope however….a serial shagger and adulterer (proven) with assault charges thrown in to spice up proceedings and you could still manage your country 🤔
Until proven Gylfi. Keep up mun 😂
dembethewarrior
20-07-21, 21:50
https://davidbanksmedialaw.com/2011/11/22/contempt-of-court-and-how-to-avoid-it/
The Contempt of Court Act 1981 swept this aside and created the concept of ‘active’ proceedings. Proceedings are active when someone has been arrested; a warrant has been issued; they have been orally charged or an information has been laid. If none of these things has happened then contempt evaporates as a problem – publish whatever you like.
3. OK, proceedings ARE active, what should I avoid
Publishing something which creates a substantial risk of serious prejudice or serious impediment to those proceedings.
4. What does that mean?
Well, that’s a little subjective, but case law has shown the following to be a problem:
*Photos or descriptions where identity is at issue – ie the defendant claims it was not him who committed the crime and the prosecution has eyewitnesses whose testimony has to be tested by way of an ID parade. They must rely on their memory of the offence, not a photo helpfully published by the media. This action cause the record fine for contempt (so far) £80,000 for the Sun and £20,000 for Kelvin MacKenzie as editor.
*Assumptions of guilt – in crime reports, police have arrested A man, not THE man.
*Previous convictions – not normally allowed in as evidence, so don’t go informing the jury of them.
*Blackening a defendant’s character – if the prosecution do it in front of the jury, that’s fine. Just don’t do it yourself as they await trial.
5. Does this mean a media blackout about a crime if proceedings are active?
No. The CCA 1981 was drafted in response to the Sunday Times coverage of the Thalidomide scandal, which had been found in contempt under the old common law. The ST took an appeal all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, which ruled that the common law contempt, as applied, was in breach of the ST’s right to freedom of speech. So the CCA 1981 includes a Section 5 defence of ‘discussion of public affairs’. So, for example, a euthanasia trial does not shut down all mention or discussion in the media of the issues of euthanasia. But such discussion should avoid direct commentary on the trial.
You seem like brilliant company.
Jordi Culé
20-07-21, 21:58
https://youtu.be/hZXxmhok1AU
Was Bill Cosby innocent?
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
cityhammer
21-07-21, 05:03
Well here's what the Attorney general has to say about it, he's a tad more reliable a source than keyboard barristers!
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/attorney-general-warning-over-social-media-posts-about-premier-league-footballer-arrested-for-sex-offences/ar-AAMmtn0
the other bob wilson
21-07-21, 05:58
Well here's what the Attorney general has to say about it, he's a tad more reliable a source than keyboard barristers!
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/attorney-general-warning-over-social-media-posts-about-premier-league-footballer-arrested-for-sex-offences/ar-AAMmtn0
The police put it out the arrested footballer was thirty one and then Everton posted that one of their players had been suspended. Apparently, there are only two players at Everton who fit the bill so to speak, so good luck with trying to get people to stop trying to find out which one of the pair it is and then putting it online. Once something like social media becomes available for large percentages of the population, you won't begin to stop people using it in the manner it has been in this case unless there is direct intervention by the authorities into what can be posted on the various platforms and there's no sign at all yet that is going to be happening anytime soon.
dembethewarrior
21-07-21, 07:32
The police put it out the arrested footballer was thirty one and then Everton posted that one of their players had been suspended. Apparently, there are only two players at Everton who fit the bill so to speak, so good luck with trying to get people to stop trying to find out which one of the pair it is and then putting it online. Once something like social media becomes available for large percentages of the population, you won't begin to stop people using it in the manner it has been in this case unless there is direct intervention by the authorities into what can be posted on the various platforms and there's no sign at all yet that is going to be happening anytime soon.
Narrows to one Bob, as Delph isn't a regular international (sure that was a description in one of the write ups)
Leaves one name.
cityhammer
21-07-21, 08:32
The police put it out the arrested footballer was thirty one and then Everton posted that one of their players had been suspended. Apparently, there are only two players at Everton who fit the bill so to speak, so good luck with trying to get people to stop trying to find out which one of the pair it is and then putting it online. Once something like social media becomes available for large percentages of the population, you won't begin to stop people using it in the manner it has been in this case unless there is direct intervention by the authorities into what can be posted on the various platforms and there's no sign at all yet that is going to be happening anytime soon. Thats besides the point, the point being that if anyone names him, the poster and the message board could potentially be prosecuted for contempt! and we know it has happened in the past in cases like Ched Evans where people named the woman, so its to like it doesnt happen.
the other bob wilson
21-07-21, 08:36
Thats besides the point, the point being that if anyone names him, the poster and the message board could potentially be prosecuted for contempt! and we know it has happened in the past in cases like Ched Evans where people named the woman, so its to like it doesnt happen.
What you might get is a token prosecution or two, but the genies out of the bottle in this instance.
This is how the sun have got round it. Can't see any problems with this...
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dembethewarrior
21-07-21, 12:48
Apparently slept with a 15 year old prostitute, they've tried to blackmail him for it and he's said no, so they've gone to the old bill.
Like I said, apparently.
Probably a million other stories doing the rounds as well.
JumpersforGoalposts
21-07-21, 12:53
Apparently slept with a 15 year old prostitute, they've tried to blackmail him for it and he's said no, so they've gone to the old bill.
Like I said, apparently.
Probably a million other stories doing the rounds as well.
Presumably you meant "allegedly" as that might keep you out of trouble in a libel action.
light up the darkness
21-07-21, 14:05
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Cosby got off on a technicality based around promises made to Cosby about what he was going to be charged with
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/arts/television/bill-cosby-conviction-overturned-why.html
Apparently slept with a 15 year old prostitute, they've tried to blackmail him for it and he's said no, so they've gone to the old bill.
Like I said, apparently.
Probably a million other stories doing the rounds as well.
how would that kind of detail emerge?
dembethewarrior
21-07-21, 18:16
Presumably you meant "allegedly" as that might keep you out of trouble in a libel action.
Aye mate. That'd be if I cared. I don't.
Genuinely appreciate the kindness though.
dembethewarrior
21-07-21, 18:16
how would that kind of detail emerge?
We wait.
May be a male not a female.
Who knows.
Sunnysideup
21-07-21, 18:51
It’ll all come out in the wash lol
Why is it we all revel in someone else’s misfortune (or poor judgement)??
These unfortunate’s are all overpaid as well as far as I’m concerned whether a sports celeb - actor or politician
I think the last two could be rolled into one 😆
dembethewarrior
22-07-21, 15:28
We wait.
May be a male not a female.
Who knows.
Pictures being widely shared now showing the girl.
How the **** he didn't even have a hint of an idea she was underage I don't know.
He must've known.
Sunnysideup
22-07-21, 15:53
Never mind pics showing the alleged girl
Have you seen pics of Gylfi’s Mrs??
Oh my days
Absolute cracker
Can’t for the life of me see anyone playing away 😊🥰🤪
Maurice Swan
22-07-21, 16:46
Pictures being widely shared now showing the girl.
How the **** he didn't even have a hint of an idea she was underage I don't know.
He must've known.
so...what;s the link to her pictures?
Never mind pics showing the alleged girl
Have you seen pics of Gylfi’s Mrs??
Oh my days
Absolute cracker
Can’t for the life of me see anyone playing away ������
So his alleged behaviour seems even more strange, given that he's got a cracking looking missus?
Maurice Swan
22-07-21, 17:24
yes...she is F......lippin nice....but hey...do not believe everything that is alleged....
dembethewarrior
22-07-21, 22:06
Never mind pics showing the alleged girl
Have you seen pics of Gylfi’s Mrs??
Oh my days
Absolute cracker
Can’t for the life of me see anyone playing away 😊🥰🤪
I have not as it goes.
They all will mate, even local lads with a banger of a missus will put their pennis in a local slapper.
dembethewarrior
22-07-21, 22:06
yes...she is F......lippin nice....but hey...do not believe everything that is alleged....
Fliping nice? You do know the age?
Fliping nice? You do know the age?
I'm hoping he was referring to his wife. In that post, at least
splott parker
23-07-21, 05:52
I have not as it goes.
They all will mate, even local lads with a banger of a missus will put their pennis in a local slapper.
Lucky Dennis:hehe:
dembethewarrior
23-07-21, 06:25
I'm hoping he was referring to his wife. In that post, at least
Fair shout that 👍
dembethewarrior
23-07-21, 06:55
Lucky Dennis:hehe:
He's a right menace 😂
With regard to beautiful wives and straying Peter Crouch cleared that one up.
When he was accused of being with a prostitute instead of trying to put gagging orders on the press he just answered the first reporter who asked him.
The guy asked him why someone with a woman as beautiful as he had need to go with a hooker he replied "Just because a man can afford filet steak every day it doesn't mean that sometimes he doesn't fancy a hamburger"
PS. She wasn't his wife at the time, just his fiancee.
With regard to beautiful wives and straying Peter Crouch cleared that one up.
When he was accused of being with a prostitute instead of trying to put gagging orders on the press he just answered the first reporter who asked him.
The guy asked him why someone with a woman as beautiful as he had need to go with a hooker he replied "Just because a man can afford filet steak every day it doesn't mean that sometimes he doesn't fancy a hamburger"
PS. She wasn't his wife at the time, just his fiancee.
:hehe:
With regard to beautiful wives and straying Peter Crouch cleared that one up.
When he was accused of being with a prostitute instead of trying to put gagging orders on the press he just answered the first reporter who asked him.
The guy asked him why someone with a woman as beautiful as he had need to go with a hooker he replied "Just because a man can afford filet steak every day it doesn't mean that sometimes he doesn't fancy a hamburger"
PS. She wasn't his wife at the time, just his fiancee.
What do you do if your missus is more value range frozen burger? Not much room to manoeuvre.
What do you do if your missus is more value range frozen burger? Not much room to manoeuvre.
But when its got ketchup and onions etc. on it one burger tastes much the same as another.
The same man, when asked what he would be if he wasn't a professional footballer replied: 'A virgin'
splott parker
23-07-21, 09:21
With regard to beautiful wives and straying Peter Crouch cleared that one up.
When he was accused of being with a prostitute instead of trying to put gagging orders on the press he just answered the first reporter who asked him.
The guy asked him why someone with a woman as beautiful as he had need to go with a hooker he replied "Just because a man can afford filet steak every day it doesn't mean that sometimes he doesn't fancy a hamburger"
PS. She wasn't his wife at the time, just his fiancee.
Yet it’s still difficult for a pro footballer to admit he prefers the sausage.
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