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https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-middlesbrough-weigh-up-transfer-move-for-31-year-old-talks-held/
That would not be a surprise and makes a lot of sense for club and player.
Boro short of left sided defensive options - hence interest in Ciaron Brown - and Bennett needs a club and Boro is his home club (2008-12). Warnock loves a re-union too!
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-middlesbrough-weigh-up-transfer-move-for-31-year-old-talks-held/
That would not be a surprise and makes a lot of sense for club and player.
Boro short of left sided defensive options - hence interest in Ciaron Brown - and Bennett needs a club and Boro is his home club (2008-12). Warnock loves a re-union too!
4 year deal.
stan butler
23-08-21, 21:59
4 year deal.
It won't be long before the Boro fans see through him he will set their club back years with his signings.
dembethewarrior
23-08-21, 22:04
It won't be long before the Boro fans see through him he will set their club back years with his signings.
All about success to put on his own CV
4 years? Jesus. Warnock's not shy about throwing around other people's money is he? Warnock will be long gone by then.
StraightOuttaCanton
23-08-21, 22:19
4 years? Jesus. Warnock's not shy about throwing around other people's money is he? Warnock will be long gone by then.
Think you might’ve been whooshed😜
Pedro de la Rosa
23-08-21, 22:21
Think you might’ve been whooshed��
I mean, we signed Bacuna to a 4.5 year deal, so it isn't completely unbelievable :hehe:
stan butler
23-08-21, 22:39
All about success to put on his own CV
If they don't get rid of him this season and give him a transfer window or two they will suffer for the next three to five years after he's gone
Think you might’ve been whooshed��
Oh right. Wouldn't put it past him though.
StraightOuttaCanton
23-08-21, 22:58
I mean, we signed Bacuna to a 4.5 year deal, so it isn't completely unbelievable :hehe:
I think that was Tuerto’s point😜
RonnieBird
23-08-21, 23:27
Great move for all concerned.
He’s very likely to recreate Cardiff City on Wearside and get promoted with the players we didn’t appreciate or value,
Rock_Flock_of_Five
24-08-21, 02:43
Great move for all concerned.
He’s very likely to recreate Cardiff City on Wearside and get promoted with the players we didn’t appreciate or value,
That's your slant on it. How about.. "Warnock trying to recreate Cardiff City on Wearside, with the players who've suffered serious injury/illness and loss of form and are a couple of years older and slower"?
Rock_Flock_of_Five
24-08-21, 02:47
4 year deal.
The player also having the option to sign a two year extension at the end of the contract.
splott parker
24-08-21, 05:35
That's your slant on it. How about.. "Warnock trying to recreate Cardiff City on Wearside, with the players who've suffered serious injury/illness and loss of form and are a couple of years older and slower"?
Erm... Teeside, although Sunderland would be happy to jump a division :hehe:
Rock_Flock_of_Five
24-08-21, 05:46
Erm... Teeside, although Sunderland would be happy to jump a division :hehe:
Uhm, I just copied 'RonnieBird' without giving it much thought... :hehe:
That's your slant on it. How about.. "Warnock trying to recreate Cardiff City on Wearside, with the players who've suffered serious injury/illness and loss of form and are a couple of years older and slower"?
Did they sign Mendez Laing after, haven't seen his name pop up, you would think he would have picked up a club quite easily, surely not suspended again.
Did they sign Mendez Laing after, haven't seen his name pop up, you would think he would have picked up a club quite easily, surely not suspended again.
Was at Boro until the end of last season, they haven't renewed though.
There are quite a few players like that still available, I'm guessing clubs will be tracking him but they may be waiting to see what other options emerge, there are quite a few premier league teams who hve more than 25 senior players, so there may be some quality players who need a place to play for a season suddenly come available.
LeningradCowboy
24-08-21, 08:44
I mean, we signed Bacuna to a 4.5 year deal, so it isn't completely unbelievable :hehe:
Bennett isn't with Unique Sports Management though.
BlueArmy 86
24-08-21, 08:56
I think we're mad not giving him a contract.
I think we're mad not giving him a contract.
We desperately needed to cut wages, and he could miss half the season.
I'm a big bennett fan, and I think he definitely improves us - in the short term. If he's here then Bagan isn't getting game time, we have another big wage and a player in his 30s likely to pick up more injuries.
BlueArmy 86
24-08-21, 09:03
Wouldn't we offer a lower wage? We need another left back whatever happens, and Bagan would learn a lot under the guidance of Bennett.
dembethewarrior
24-08-21, 10:05
Wouldn't we offer a lower wage? We need another left back whatever happens, and Bagan would learn a lot under the guidance of Bennett.
Bennett is a good player at this level, but i for one am glad we are starting to lower the age of the team.
Didn't we offer him a contract before his injury which he didn't want to sign? Realistically, there's now more risk for offering him a deal when initial offer made so any further negotiations should reflect that.
Boro are big spenders this year, and therefore are probably happier to take on that greater risk, and we're not so given his history with the club and manger it's much more likely he goes there than stays here.
Does that mean we don't bring in a more senior LB to help Bagan out? We're on a smaller budget than last year so might be not be possible.
Uhm, I just copied 'RonnieBird' without giving it much thought... :hehe:
fatal error :hehe:
Holding out for a better deal has risk in it, as Joe has sadly found out.
If he was offered a better deal by another club he would have walked into the distance without a second thought for City.
This is the risk you take when holding out for a better deal while still playing.
With a few exceptions there should be very little emotion involved with these deals. There isn't much for the player when they go to another club for more money.
StraightOuttaCanton
24-08-21, 10:59
Uhm, I just copied 'RonnieBird' without giving it much thought... :hehe:
You read Ronnie Bird’s posts???
StraightOuttaCanton
24-08-21, 11:05
I think we're mad not giving him a contract.
We’re all football fans (at least I think we are) but we see players qualities very differently… I wouldn’t have offered Bennett a new contract even before his injury. Effective going forward buy always felt he was a mistake waiting to happen defensively….
dembethewarrior
24-08-21, 11:11
Effective going forward buy always felt he was a mistake waiting to happen defensively….
Caught out of position quite a lot, and he's 31 and should have been more "developed" yet Bagan gets stick from some of our lot for making positional mistakes and he's only just starting out on his development..
Yes, our fans are crackers.
We’re all football fans (at least I think we are) but we see players qualities very differently… I wouldn’t have offered Bennett a new contract even before his injury. Effective going forward buy always felt he was a mistake waiting to happen defensively….
I probably would have before the injury, but not too long and dependant on wages
You read Ronnie Bird’s posts???
:hehe:
Caught out of position quite a lot, and he's 31 and should have been more "developed" yet Bagan gets stick from some of our lot for making positional mistakes and he's only just starting out on his development..
Yes, our fans are crackers.
If he's out of position he's out of position whoever the player is.
If the goal still stands and it is partially the fault of a player then there isn't some kind of let off because they are young.
If Bagan, or any other player for that matter, learns from the mistakes then fair enough.
You can't just ignore mistakes though because they're developing.
If any player is out of position and is in some way negatively effected by being told as much and letting it get them down then it will be a very short career.
He's 31 is going to want a decent length contract, can't see him taking a 1 year deal.
It's Bagan time to shine, if we want to progress the youngsters then they need to play.
Transfer window shutting soon. We dont know if we can bring anyone in yet or if anyone is leaving.
If we still have enough in the budget then id offer Bennett a deal. Its a long season to go with a 19 year old and the cover being an even younger player or using Ng Ralls or Brown as cover.
dembethewarrior
24-08-21, 13:10
If he's out of position he's out of position whoever the player is.
If the goal still stands and it is partially the fault of a player then there isn't some kind of let off because they are young.
If Bagan, or any other player for that matter, learns from the mistakes then fair enough.
You can't just ignore mistakes though because they're developing.
If any player is out of position and is in some way negatively effected by being told as much and letting it get them down then it will be a very short career.
Nobody is clamouring for us all to start ignoring mistakes. We all acknowledge players make mistakes.
What we don't need is to get on ayers backs when they make them.. I'm talking about the younger ones who need game tone to develop to actually get batter... But even the older pros will make them, and as long as its not something the older lot repeat time after time I'd say a few fans could learn to get off their backs at the same time.
You carry on about a negative effect etc.. I don't recall mentioning that. I don't know why you always do this.. Drawn out an argument that wasn't there by adding in things.
Just put me on ignore for christ sake.
Nobody is clamouring for us all to start ignoring mistakes. We all acknowledge players make mistakes.
What we don't need is to get on ayers backs when they make them.. I'm talking about the younger ones who need game tone to develop to actually get batter... But even the older pros will make them, and as long as its not something the older lot repeat time after time I'd say a few fans could learn to get off their backs at the same time.
You carry on about a negative effect etc.. I don't recall mentioning that. I don't know why you always do this.. Drawn out an argument that wasn't there by adding in things.
Just put me on ignore for christ sake.
An argument? I only replied to your post once.
Sorry my side of the errr argument wasn't to your liking.
Since MM became manager Bagan has become a regular and last season Sang, Brown and Colwill made their League debuts and we had Evans ,Isaak Davies and Patten on the bench for some games. And yesterday Bowen, Denham and D'Almeida made their first starts. That's more youngsters I've seen for many years.
As for Bennett, I think he will only get offered a 1 year deal anywhere to prove his fitness, and due to his age. I don't think City will offering anywhere near what he was on before. There are so many experienced players who were released last season who are struggling to find clubs. City will stick with the youngsters anyway, we'll be selling Moore soon just to pay for the wages!!
Since MM became manager Bagan has become a regular and last season Sang, Brown and Colwill made their League debuts and we had Evans ,Isaak Davies and Patten on the bench for some games. And yesterday Bowen, Denham and D'Almeida made their first starts. That's more youngsters I've seen for many years.
As for Bennett, I think he will only get offered a 1 year deal anywhere to prove his fitness, and due to his age. I don't think City will offering anywhere near what he was on before. There are so many experienced players who were released last season who are struggling to find clubs. City will stick with the youngsters anyway, we'll be selling Moore soon just to pay for the wages!!
Yes I'm sure if I remember correctly that our wage bill for the first season back at this level was £55 million. And we are getting £35 million less this season compared to last in parachute payments. So we need to be taking a hell of a lot of wages out.
Swbluebird
25-08-21, 15:56
Yes I'm sure if I remember correctly that our wage bill for the first season back at this level was £55 million. And we are getting £35 million less this season compared to last in parachute payments. So we need to be taking a hell of a lot of wages out.
I could be wrong, but £55m can't be right surely? That's an average wage of £42k per week for each player in a 25 man squad
LeningradCowboy
25-08-21, 16:04
I could be wrong, but £55m can't be right surely? That's an average wage of £42k per week for each player in a 25 man squad
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-record-122m-losses-20726022
Our wage bill was £42.5m in 2018/19 and £27.9m in 2019/20.
I could be wrong, but £55m can't be right surely? That's an average wage of £42k per week for each player in a 25 man squad
No - you're right - it was 54m in the premier league, but had dropped to 36 million after 1 year in the championship.
Guessing our total income will be something like 20m for this season, so it clearly has to come down a long way still.
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