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LeningradCowboy
09-12-21, 13:40
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 | BREAKING: Mark Drakeford has privately called for a full Christmas lockdown<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GuidoFawkes</a></p>— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1468935701328764934?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf_4juIwad0
Croesy Blue
09-12-21, 13:49
Let wait for the time of year when a lockdown would be the most miserable, well done Mark :hehe:
Former Labour leader
09-12-21, 13:58
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 | BREAKING: Mark Drakeford has privately called for a full Christmas lockdown<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GuidoFawkes</a></p>— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1468935701328764934?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Not sure why anyone would believe a word Paul Staines aka Guido Fawkes, says.
LeningradCowboy
09-12-21, 13:58
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wales Daily Coronavirus (COVID-19) Report · Thursday 9th December.<br><br>2,302 new cases (people positive) reported, giving a total of 529,840.<br><br>15 new deaths reported, giving a total of 6,467. <a href="https://t.co/vC8EM51tVl">pic.twitter.com/vC8EM51tVl</a></p>— UK COVID-19 (@UKCovid19Stats) <a href="https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1468915087478042624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
SLUDGE FACTORY
09-12-21, 14:00
If a full lockdown is needed and advised by the scientists then surely we have to abide by that ?
Unless you are a tory ?
Hardly the most trustworthy source
I feel so much safer under Mr Drakeford's guidance. If we need a full lockdown then so be it. Saving lives and protecting the NHS should be the overriding aim.
I wonder what type of Wales we would have if Drakeford had his way with Covid restrictions, Wales might well still be in one now, will anything be left ? ? ?
how will business's cope with not being able to work / earn money ? ? ?
how will the workers cope with it all, where will the furlough money come from ? ?
LeningradCowboy
09-12-21, 14:13
I wonder if Drakeford is mad enough to do this without financial support from the Treasury.
If omicron means that hospitals start to see a massive increase in covid patients then who knows?
Are people being hospitalised though?
Yes the cases are on the increase but isn't the vaccine programme by and large is doing it's job?
Be interesting to see if any support given to businesses and workers this time round.
If a full lockdown is needed and advised by the scientists then surely we have to abide by that ?
Unless you are a tory ?
Or an SNP (Ferrier and Calderwood) or Labour (Kinnock and Corbyn), or Brexit party (Farage), supporter. Selective memory loss strikes again !
Not sure why anyone would believe a word Paul Staines aka Guido Fawkes, says.
Exactly
😂😂😂Guido Fawkes. Right wing loon.
Must be true.
Are people being hospitalised though?
Yes the cases are on the increase but isn't the vaccine programme by and large is doing it's job?
.
Which is why I said 'if...'. Guido's statement doesn't have an 'if' or a full stop.
Parti Mellow
09-12-21, 14:43
If the Scientists tell us to jump in the river, then surely we should all follow the science.
If the Scientists tell us to jump in the river, then surely we should all follow the science.
If we're on fire, yes
If the Scientists tell us to jump in the river, then surely we should all follow the science.
Why would they do that?
dembethewarrior
09-12-21, 15:35
I feel so much safer under Mr Drakeford's guidance. If we need a full lockdown then so be it. Saving lives and protecting the NHS should be the overriding aim.
These fake accounts on here are brilliant :hehe:
JamesWales
09-12-21, 15:45
I feel so much safer under Mr Drakeford's guidance. If we need a full lockdown then so be it. Saving lives and protecting the NHS should be the overriding aim.
Alright Mark? 🤣🤣
Alright Mark? 🤣🤣
No I'm not feeling up to the Mark actually Boris but thanks for asking. Oh and I wish all the best for yours and Allegra's new bairn 👍
Former Labour leader
09-12-21, 16:21
No I'm not feeling up to the Mark actually Boris but thanks for asking. Oh and I wish all the best for yours and Allegra's new bairn 👍
Lol I think you mean Carrie, but guess Boris been shagging her as well.
Lol I think you mean Carrie, but guess Boris been shagging her as well.
No I did mean Allegra because it's difficult to know where the prick uses his prick from one day to the next 🤣
Mr Soul '68
09-12-21, 16:47
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 | BREAKING: Mark Drakeford has privately called for a full Christmas lockdown<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GuidoFawkes</a></p>— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1468935701328764934?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Snakeford can do one!
dembethewarrior
09-12-21, 16:48
Snakeford can do one!
I'm not arsed about politics but I agree with you
Eric the Half a Bee
09-12-21, 17:09
The political right are busy deflecting issues today with bullshit.
LeningradCowboy
09-12-21, 17:22
The political right are busy deflecting issues today with bullshit.
Has Drakeford denied the story?
Has Drakeford denied the story?
Has he been asked?
the other bob wilson
09-12-21, 17:25
The political right are busy deflecting issues today with bullshit.
Seems that way doesn’t it.
https://twitter.com/gillibrandpeter/status/1468946265023123459?s=21
The political right are busy deflecting issues today with bullshit.
Incredible how easy it is to do it as well. A short story with no substance from a right wing blog and people are taking it as gospel
Seems that way doesn’t it.
https://twitter.com/gillibrandpeter/status/1468946265023123459?s=21
C'mon Bob, it did say 'At the moment' at the end of that statement. That's surely enough evidence if ever there was :hehe:
The political right are busy deflecting issues today with bullshit.
Makes me wonder whether Boris booked Carrie in for a last minute caesarian today just to deflect some flack 🙂
the other bob wilson
09-12-21, 17:31
Incredible how easy it is to do it as well. A short story with no substance from a right wing blog and people are taking it as gospel
And yet you don’t see a word from them about Johnson (who I see has been accused of lying yet again on a separate matter today).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59591917
life on mars
09-12-21, 17:34
Why would they do that?
Wash away our sins ?
And yet you don’t see a word from them about Johnson (who I see has been accused of lying yet again on a separate matter today).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59591917
Boris will just say something 'Funny' about the chinese and everyone will laugh and this latest shit will just go away. That's how it works.
life on mars
09-12-21, 17:53
Boris will just say something 'Funny' about the chinese and everyone will laugh and this latest shit will just go away. That's how it works.
Lovely photo of Carrie though , she does have something
Lovely photo of Carrie though , she does have something
I'm not surprised after shagging Boris, the fat ****! :thumbup:
ninian opinian
09-12-21, 18:38
Lovely photo of Carrie though , she does have something
What the feck does she see in that big fat lump of lying lard? He’ll cheat on her the same as he’s cheated on every other wife/partner he’s ever had :biggrin:
dembethewarrior
09-12-21, 18:42
What the feck does she see in that big fat lump of lying lard? He’ll cheat on her the same as he’s cheated on every other wife/partner he’s ever had :biggrin:
Some women seek out shit relationships.
Know plenty of decent women that have ended up with absolute ****ing tossers, both my sisters included. Good news is they both saw the light and now have absolute belters that look after them like they deserve.
splott parker
09-12-21, 19:12
Not sure why anyone would believe a word Paul Staines aka Guido Fawkes, says.
Shit Stains more like.
The political right are busy deflecting issues today with bullshit.
Too true. I read a joke earlier that he can't buy the papers to mark the day his baby was born but it doesn't matter, its different day different lie by Boris and cronies.
Has Drakeford denied the story?
Deny what?? Some known loons blog?? 😂😂😂
Optimistic Nick
09-12-21, 19:43
If a full lockdown is needed and advised by the scientists then surely we have to abide by that ?
Unless you are a tory ?
Don't politicise this. Just look at the state America got itself into doing so.
dembethewarrior
09-12-21, 19:44
Don't politicise this. Just look at the state America got itself into doing so.
It's ccmb. Its the way.
LeningradCowboy
09-12-21, 19:45
Has he been asked?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59596079
A Welsh government spokesman refused to be drawn on the report, saying the administration does not "comment on leaked reports from confidential discussions".
SLUDGE FACTORY
09-12-21, 19:48
Don't politicise this. Just look at the state America got itself into doing so.
I am politicising this because Boris and his mob have flouted the rules whilst others have been prevented from seeing their loved ones
It's his problem
FFS Sludge these arent normal times give Boris a break. And dont forget Jeremy Corbyn , Diane Abbott etc etc.
I wonder what type of Wales we would have if Drakeford had his way with Covid restrictions, Wales might well still be in one now, will anything be left ? ? ?
how will business's cope with not being able to work / earn money ? ? ?
how will the workers cope with it all, where will the furlough money come from ? ?
Westminster pays for lockdown…..I heard he wanted to shut wales down a few days ago but couldn’t believe it. Locking down to protect those that refuse vaccination, you couldn’t make it up.
Former Labour leader
09-12-21, 20:15
FFS Sludge these arent normal times give Boris a break. And dont forget Jeremy Corbyn , Diane Abbott etc etc.
Sorry, things would be a lot worse with Jeremy and Diane in charge. Boris is doing his best.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59596079
A Welsh government spokesman refused to be drawn on the report, saying the administration does not "comment on leaked reports from confidential discussions".
As you were then, so to speak :thumbup:
dembethewarrior
09-12-21, 20:29
FFS Sludge these arent normal times give Boris a break. And dont forget Jeremy Corbyn , Diane Abbott etc etc.
Its easy to sit here criticising, maybe they could and should do better they are experienced in their roles etc, but it's far easier to set there criticising with no idea of how and why decisions are made and judge them based on your own political beliefs..
Canton Kev
09-12-21, 20:34
Boris is doing his best.
How? By shaking Covid patients hands? Not wearing a mask in an active hospital? Breaking his own government’s lockdown rules repeatedly?
Forget running a country, this is basic stuff he’s asking his citizens to follow and he is putting in minimal effort. Now taking all this into account, imagine how much effort he’s bothered to put into trying his best. I’ll start the ball rolling with him skipping multiple COBRA meetings at the start of Covid.
Sorry, things would be a lot worse with Jeremy and Diane in charge. Boris is doing his best.
Whoever came up with this little gem is a ****ing genius. They've got everyone so afraid of a hypothetical situation from the past that they can do whatever they want and get away with it. Boris is doing his best? Boris doesn't give a ****. He doesn't even have a politcal agenda. He's just in it for the ride. And the money.
life on mars
10-12-21, 00:29
I knocked on his door this evening in Pontcanton and sang ' mask the herald angels sing ' he reminded me there's 12 days to lockdown
Nobody's Rep
10-12-21, 06:46
But isn't that how we have tory rule in Westminster - based on nothing but soundbites and bluster? Politics is Bull shit these days and noone is held to account for anything they do in power
the other bob wilson
10-12-21, 07:22
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-rules-facemask-wales-drakeford-22418839
ninian opinian
10-12-21, 08:02
I love it when they say Boris is doing his best. It’s the kind of thing you’d say about a 6 year old in school. Mmmmm perhaps that sums him up.
the other bob wilson
10-12-21, 08:11
I love it when they say Boris is doing his best. It’s the kind of thing you’d say about a 6 year old in school. Mmmmm perhaps that sums him up.
It suggests other Governments did not do their best - doing their best should be the very least you expect from those charged with running the country.
I see the No. 10 Director of Communications is now reported as being at the "gathering" which was not a party.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59601447
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59603553
A Quiet Monkfish
10-12-21, 09:36
Deny what?? Some known loons blog?? ������
It's not just 'some loons blog'. There's a Westmister 'bubble' and also a Cardiff Bay bubble. Scores of people will have knowledge of what's being discussed. I can tell you - 2nd or 3rd - hand, that the Welsh Government is planning to introduce the Covid Pass year round, to include flu. They would like it to be a permanent feature of Welsh life. Been told there's virtually no opposition to this from Labour & Plaid Cymru. I often chat with a Dad who's son played football with my son and he has a relatively senior position [non-political] in the Senedd. I wouldn't be dismissing this just yet..
Eric the Half a Bee
10-12-21, 09:41
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-rules-facemask-wales-drakeford-22418839
So that Guido Fawkes tweet was a load of bollocks then? I'm genuinely amazed.....
Harry Paget Flashman
10-12-21, 09:47
Incredible how easy it is to do it as well. A short story with no substance from a right wing blog and people are taking it as gospel
There’s a lot of idiots out there.
And on here.
A Quiet Monkfish
10-12-21, 10:03
So that Guido Fawkes tweet was a load of bollocks then? I'm genuinely amazed.....
Believe me, whether Cardiff of Westminster, they're pissing themselves laughing at just how much they can get the public to comply with. Finish your starter, put on your nappy. Start your main , take off your nappy. finish your main, put back your nappy, have a sip of a drink, take off your nappy.
the other bob wilson
10-12-21, 10:34
Believe me, whether Cardiff of Westminster, they're pissing themselves laughing at just how much they can get the public to comply with. Finish your starter, put on your nappy. Start your main , take off your nappy. finish your main, put back your nappy, have a sip of a drink, take off your nappy.
I prefer to take the positive interpretation and credit the majority of people for having the intelligence to recognise that, in the current pandemic, something like a Covid pass is an acceptable imposition on our “freedom” as a temporary measure. If and when the pandemic ends, then I’d like to think that same people who accepted the Covid pass would not feel the same way about bringing in something similar for anything that is not considered to be a pandemic.
Believe me, whether Cardiff of Westminster, they're pissing themselves laughing at just how much they can get the public to comply with. Finish your starter, put on your nappy. Start your main , take off your nappy. finish your main, put back your nappy, have a sip of a drink, take off your nappy.
I'm prepared to do that, and with gusto, if it can help save some poor sod's life. Remember, one man's Liberty is another man's Tyranny 👍
Eric the Half a Bee
10-12-21, 10:49
Believe me, whether Cardiff of Westminster, they're pissing themselves laughing at just how much they can get the public to comply with. Finish your starter, put on your nappy. Start your main , take off your nappy. finish your main, put back your nappy, have a sip of a drink, take off your nappy.
:tumbleweed:
It's not just 'some loons blog'. There's a Westmister 'bubble' and also a Cardiff Bay bubble. Scores of people will have knowledge of what's being discussed. I can tell you - 2nd or 3rd - hand, that the Welsh Government is planning to introduce the Covid Pass year round, to include flu. They would like it to be a permanent feature of Welsh life. Been told there's virtually no opposition to this from Labour & Plaid Cymru. I often chat with a Dad who's son played football with my son and he has a relatively senior position [non-political] in the Senedd. I wouldn't be dismissing this just yet..
This the same Plaid Cymru as the one that voted against COVID passes?
chrisp_1927
10-12-21, 11:09
I don't agree with the lust for restrictions and lockdowns due to the new variant. Most of the decent reports seem to suggest that the vaccines still provide a good level of protection.
As for the idea that masks are about control, will never be able to get my mind around what makes people think like that.
In terms of getting worried about a greater focus on flu in future years. Why the issue around some basic precautions. Instead of getting annoyed about the odd mask , I'd rather stigmatise the grotty f*ckers who go into crowded places or public transport sneezing and coughing their guts up over everyone. Obviously we can't have lockdowns for flu, thats ridiculous. But what's wrong with asking people to stay in for 3 or 4 days when they're infectious, then wear a mask for a few days after when out in public.
A Quiet Monkfish
10-12-21, 11:16
I prefer to take the positive interpretation and credit the majority of people for having the intelligence to recognise that, in the current pandemic, something like a Covid pass is an acceptable imposition on our “freedom” as a temporary measure. If and when the pandemic ends, then I’d like to think that same people who accepted the Covid pass would not feel the same way about bringing in something similar for anything that is not considered to be a pandemic.
"if and when the pandemic ends.." Technically it will never end, and then there will be the 'flu pandemic. We'll see..
SLUDGE FACTORY
10-12-21, 11:23
Believe me, whether Cardiff of Westminster, they're pissing themselves laughing at just how much they can get the public to comply with. Finish your starter, put on your nappy. Start your main , take off your nappy. finish your main, put back your nappy, have a sip of a drink, take off your nappy.
Donald Trump speaks
"if and when the pandemic ends.." Technically it will never end, and then there will be the 'flu pandemic. We'll see..
Life sucks, tell us about it!
Claude Blue
10-12-21, 11:28
Have the tory boys in this thread stopped creaming themselves over a made up story by a discredited right wing grifter yet?
Or are they still doffing their cap and tugging their forelock to Staines and the Eton Mess he and they sychophantically support?
Bless.
Have the tory boys in this thread stopped creaming themselves over a made up story by a discredited right wing grifter yet?
Or are they still doffing their cap and tugging their forelock to Staines and the Eton Mess he and they sychophantically support?
Bless.
Never forgive those nasty tories for shutting the mines I was never down.
life on mars
10-12-21, 12:35
First Minister Mark Drakeford has said that Wales will remain at Alert Level 0 following Thursday's (December 9) review but will urge the Welsh public to do the following:
Flow before they go. This means taking a lateral flow test before going out – whether that’s to a Christmas party, Christmas shopping, visiting friends or family, going to any crowded or busy place or before travelling.
If the test is positive, don’t go out. Arrange for a PCR test and self-isolate.
People to wear face coverings in pubs and restaurants, when they aren’t eating or drinking. Everyone must wear face coverings in most other indoor public places, in accordance with the law, including in cinemas and theatres.
Mr Drakeford will address Wales at the 21-day review press conference later today – Friday December 10 – when he will discuss the measures he wants the public to take to help keep each other safe. He is expected to urge everyone who is eligible to get their booster vaccine when they are contacted.
READ MORE: All eligible adults i
life on mars
10-12-21, 12:39
Never forgive those nasty tories for shutting the mines I was never down.
Labour shut 290
Thatcher finished the job with 160.
It was always going to happen ,one could argue about how it was done by either government , one could also argue best we did it then than now , unlike Germany ,Aussie , China ,India who face pressures to do so in this day and age , due to climate changes .
Claude Blue
10-12-21, 12:55
Never forgive those nasty tories for shutting the mines I was never down.
:shrug:
I don't agree with the lust for restrictions and lockdowns due to the new variant. Most of the decent reports seem to suggest that the vaccines still provide a good level of protection.
As for the idea that masks are about control, will never be able to get my mind around what makes people think like that.
In terms of getting worried about a greater focus on flu in future years. Why the issue around some basic precautions. Instead of getting annoyed about the odd mask , I'd rather stigmatise the grotty f*ckers who go into crowded places or public transport sneezing and coughing their guts up over everyone. Obviously we can't have lockdowns for flu, thats ridiculous. But what's wrong with asking people to stay in for 3 or 4 days when they're infectious, then wear a mask for a few days after when out in public.
Folowing the SAARS and MERS outbreaks in the far east in the early 2000s, people in many far east countries took to wearing masks on public transport and in crowded spaces, especially if thy had a bit of a cold. Not enforced, but many people continued to do it to this day. I guess we will see something similar over here after we are done with covid finally.
life on mars
10-12-21, 13:07
Folowing the SAARS and MERS outbreaks in the far east in the early 2000s, people in many far east countries took to wearing masks on public transport and in crowded spaces, especially if thy had a bit of a cold. Not enforced, but many people continued to do it to this day. I guess we will see something similar over here after we are done with covid finally.
It also a good manners in the far east for folk with normal colds / coughs , I think its an excellent behaviour, we could learn from them if we all care about each other its got nothing to do with our political masters its morally good .
JamesWales
10-12-21, 15:41
Have the tory boys in this thread stopped creaming themselves over a made up story by a discredited right wing grifter yet?
Or are they still doffing their cap and tugging their forelock to Staines and the Eton Mess he and they sychophantically support?
Bless.
The story was essentially confirmed on The Daily Politics on BBC2 at lunch time.
life on mars
10-12-21, 16:12
The story was essentially confirmed on The Daily Politics on BBC2 at lunch time.
Bloody creaming Tory Boy, Gammon Face , Murdoch influenced Channel what do they know ?
Claude Blue
10-12-21, 16:25
Bloody creaming Tory Boy, Gammon Face , Murdoch influenced Channel what do they know ?
Confirmed that various scenarios were discussed with Michael Gove.
No evidence that Drakeford wanted a lockdown.
But you keep doffing your cap and attempting to deflect away from from the antics of your boy in No. 10.
Jimmy the Jock
10-12-21, 19:12
Confirmed that various scenarios were discussed with Michael Gove.
No evidence that Drakeford wanted a lockdown.
But you keep doffing your cap and attempting to deflect away from from the antics of your boy in No. 10.
Nothing changing , wear a mask please .
chrisp_1927
10-12-21, 19:13
It also a good manners in the far east for folk with normal colds / coughs , I think its an excellent behaviour, we could learn from them if we all care about each other its got nothing to do with our political masters its morally good .
Totally agree. Used to drive me nuts on trains in to cardiff in a morning. Everyone packed shoulder to shoulder. People coughing and spluttering everywhere, and no-one would even open a window. Was like the flu viruses wet dream
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