Chester FC Is Now English [Archive]

TWGL1

08-01-22, 21:57

The pitch and stands are in Wales and therefore Welsh law applies, North Wales police need to arrest people if they break Welsh covid laws on Welsh territory.

They would have to arrest members of Cheshire constabulary then who were in attendance at the games wouldn't they ?

trampie09

08-01-22, 22:24

They would have to arrest members of Cheshire constabulary then who were in attendance at the games wouldn't they ?
If the English police are breaking the law of the land they will have to be arrested by the Welsh.
As I understand it both forces go over the border to carry out their business so there should be no issue, no fans should be allowed in the ground which is in Wales, turnstiles locked and if they start congregating outside in the car park the English police can keep law and order out there, if any get into the ground then the Welsh police should deal with them.

xsnaggle

09-01-22, 00:02

If the English police are breaking the law of the land they will have to be arrested by the Welsh.
As I understand it both forces go over the border to carry out their business so there should be no issue, no fans should be allowed in the ground which is in Wales, turnstiles locked and if they start congregating outside in the car park the English police can keep law and order out there, if any get into the ground then the Welsh police should deal with them.

trampie, you really are a star. You always appear at just the right moments :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

cityhammer

09-01-22, 09:25

If WAG have considered them to be an english club previously when it came to claiming financial assistance, then I think they have every right to tell WAG to feck off.

trampie09

09-01-22, 09:51

If WAG have considered them to be an english club previously when it came to claiming financial assistance, then I think they have every right to tell WAG to feck off.
It doesn't matter if the Welsh consider them to be Martians, it's Welsh land and therefore it should be Welsh rules.

cityhammer

09-01-22, 09:58

It doesn't matter if the Welsh consider them to be Martians, it's Welsh land and therefore it should be Welsh rules.

WAG cant have it both ways, if they've already decided they are english for the sake of financial assistance they can't now decide they are welsh! which bit of that do you not understand?

trampie09

09-01-22, 10:32

WAG cant have it both ways, if they've already decided they are english for the sake of financial assistance they can't now decide they are welsh! which bit of that do you not understand?
It's Welsh land what bit of its Welsh land don't you understand.

logic

09-01-22, 10:50

It's Welsh land what bit of its Welsh land don't you understand.

Logic would indicate that you would first need to understand that the registered offices are in England, policing at the ground is carried out by English police, that even the whole of the pitch isn't in Wales.

Granted it's difficult for a Jack like you, regarded as a laughing stock on your own clubs forums, to understand but WG cannot pick and choose when they decide Chester may or may not be Welsh for political reasons.

Police may "investigate" but nothing will be done.`

Majorblue

09-01-22, 11:09

With tongue firmly in cheek ,seeing as we are registered as a company and football club in England and Wales let the club invoke the English bit and open up to all.:hehe:

trampie09

09-01-22, 12:45

Logic would indicate that you would first need to understand that the registered offices are in England, policing at the ground is carried out by English police, that even the whole of the pitch isn't in Wales.

Granted it's difficult for a Jack like you, regarded as a laughing stock on your own clubs forums, to understand but WG cannot pick and choose when they decide Chester may or may not be Welsh for political reasons.

Police may "investigate" but nothing will be done.`
The whole of the pitch is in Wales and all the stands where the spectators watch from is in Wales, the WG can't pick and choose because Welsh rules should apply to Welsh land and the entire playing surface as well and the stands are in Wales.

The Lone Gunman

09-01-22, 13:09

The whole of the pitch is in Wales and all the stands where the spectators watch from is in Wales, the WG can't pick and choose because Welsh rules should apply to Welsh land and the entire playing surface as well and the stands are in Wales.

Hear hear! It's imaginary dotted lines on a map that matter in cases like this, not reality.

Baloo

09-01-22, 13:31

Bit confusing this innit. TNS are based in Oswestry, Shopshire but in their case playing in Cymru Premier means they have to follow Wales' Covid rules.

'THE New Saints FC will have to adhere to Welsh regulation with regards to fans returning to stadiums, despite their stadium being situated in England....But the Welsh Government has stated TNS must follow their rules, in accordance with the other teams in the Welsh leagues."

A Welsh Government spokesperson, said: “The coronavirus regulations are relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. The Football Association of Wales manages the Cymru Premier league and TNS would need to make sure they comply with the specific league rules and regulations too.”

https://www.bordercountiesadvertizer.co.uk/news/18896634.tns-boss-hopes-fans-will-back-stadiums-wales-soon/

logic

09-01-22, 13:36

Bit confusing this innit. TNS are based on Oswestry, Shopshire but in their case playing in Cymru Premier means they have to follow Wales' Covid rules.

'THE New Saints FC will have to adhere to Welsh regulation with regards to fans returning to stadiums, despite their stadium being situated in England....But the Welsh Government has stated TNS must follow their rules, in accordance with the other teams in the Welsh leagues."

A Welsh Government spokesperson, said: “The coronavirus regulations are relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. The Football Association of Wales manages the Cymru Premier league and TNS would need to make sure they comply with the specific league rules and regulations too.”

https://www.bordercountiesadvertizer.co.uk/news/18896634.tns-boss-hopes-fans-will-back-stadiums-wales-soon/

Logic would indicate that could lead to EUFA sanctions against the LoW as it indicates clear political intervention in the running of a club within the league structure, contrary to EUFA regulations.

trampie09

09-01-22, 13:49

Logic would indicate that could lead to EUFA sanctions against the LoW as it indicates clear political intervention in the running of a club within the league structure, contrary to EUFA regulations.
That is just poor journalism, what the WG spokesman was quoted as saying (at the time) seems correct, the papers spin/interpretation does not seem correct.

logic

09-01-22, 13:56

That is just poor journalism, what the WG spokesman was quoted as saying (at the time) seems correct, the papers spin/interpretation does not seem correct.

Logic would indicate it's a direct quote and that blaming spin/interpretation is a deflection tactic.

"The coronavirus regulations are relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. The Football Association of Wales manages the Cymru Premier league and TNS would need to make sure they comply with the specific league rules and regulations too.”

Key points :-

Coronavirus regulations relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. Chester FC is a registered English club where policing at games is performed by English police, nor Welsh. The registered offices are in England.

The second part of the quote is irrelevant; these was WG rules not FAW league rules and regulations.

it's clear political interference with a club.

trampie09

09-01-22, 13:59

Logic would indicate it's a direct quote and that blaming spin/interpretation is a deflection tactic.

"The coronavirus regulations are relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. The Football Association of Wales manages the Cymru Premier league and TNS would need to make sure they comply with the specific league rules and regulations too.”

Key points :-

Coronavirus regulations relevant in the country in which the activity takes place. Chester FC is a registered English club where policing at games is performed by English police, nor Welsh. The registered offices are in England.

The second part of the quote is irrelevant; these was WG rules not FAW league rules and regulations.

it's clear political interference with a club.
If the activity takes place in Wales, Welsh rules apply.

logic

09-01-22, 14:08

If the activity takes place in Wales, Welsh rules apply.

Logic would indicate yet again you fail to grasp the nuances.

If the activity takes place in Wales, then the sporting event is regulated by Welsh police. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN FOR CHESTER FC GAMES they are managed by English police, something you fail to understand. During previous lockdowns, Chester abided by English rules and Dripford said precisely zero.

Now, if "Welsh rules apply for activities in Wales" then your argument fails to explain TNS where WG are demanding *their* rules apply when activities take place in England.

I can see why your fellow Jack fans mock you relentlessly.

trampie09

09-01-22, 14:18

Logic would indicate yet again you fail to grasp the nuances.

If the activity takes place in Wales, then the sporting event is regulated by Welsh police. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN FOR CHESTER FC GAMES they are managed by English police, something you fail to understand. During previous lockdowns, Chester abided by English rules and Dripford said precisely zero.

Now, if "Welsh rules apply for activities in Wales" then your argument fails to explain TNS where WG are demanding *their* rules apply when activities take place in England.

I can see why your fellow Jack fans mock you relentlessly.
They don't demand their rules apply to TNS, TNS (for now) choose to follow WG rules.

Tito Fuente

09-01-22, 22:37

Logic would indicate that could lead to EUFA sanctions against the LoW as it indicates clear political intervention in the running of a club within the league structure, contrary to EUFA regulations.

Logic would be wise to aim to be a bit less sanctimonious when logic doesn't recognise that the European football governing body is called UEFA - not "EUFA".